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PeterL: lol, bitcoin is not meant to be on a phone
sjsqd: and I live in a city where the government evolves quickly
danielpbarron: ack a bashed too soon
sjsqd: and I really like the idea of being able to carry around my money on my phone
sjsqd: but I've read as much as my mind can understand on it (I'm not a coder though)
sjsqd: downloaded the mining software, my ADD kicked in
sjsqd: I understand the idea of bitcoin universes, I didn't get into it to make a quick buck selling for cash or anything
danielpbarron: no, there really aren't
sjsqd: I don't personally listen to them but there are some interesting topics
PeterL: I would much prefer to read an article than to listen to some guy talking
asciilifeform: and this one.
assbot: Qntra Reaffirms That The WoT And IRC Yeshiva Are In No Way Optional | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1AJJS49 )
asciilifeform: sjsqd: there are, approximately, two 'bitcoin universes.' the one where scammers and u.s. fed stoolies scratch one another's backs,
danielpbarron: podcasts are trash
sjsqd: let's talk bitcoin is interesting because there are quite a few podcasts and such
sjsqd: danielpbarron:I was referring to a different blog
sjsqd: BingoBoingo:thanks I'll have a look on there
sjsqd: even with hundreds of thousands of page views I only ever made about 70 USD over 2-3 years ☟︎
BingoBoingo: sjsqd: Anyway the qntra thing can probably also help with some background on differences between the Vessenes' foundation and the (dot)foundation
sjsqd: I used to blog years and years ago
danielpbarron: i checked the actual DEX
sjsqd: so its nice to have a little coming in from writing
sjsqd: according to poloniex 180k is about 0.16
danielpbarron: lolk, then i guess you're in the right place
sjsqd: because I made some posts saying the website wasn't adequate in certain terms
sjsqd: I found out about let's talk bitcoin via the foundation forums (andresen forums if you want to call it that)
sjsqd: there is an editor too who makes my posts more readable
sjsqd: not enough to live on
sjsqd: (I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to disclose that)
sjsqd: but I am holding the LTBcoin
sjsqd: I got about 180k for the first one
danielpbarron: sjsqd, how many LTBcoin did you get for writing those?
sjsqd: thanks for the pointer
sjsqd: ahh I see the URL for logs in the title
sjsqd: BingoBoingo: I'm not that well acquainted with how the different clients originated or their quality, more just a question of whether it is a bitcoin or an altcoin client; from what I understand it is a bitcoin client
jurov: sjsqd, you can peruse the searchable logs here, too
BingoBoingo: <sjsqd> but works with bitcoin just the same as any other client (multibit etc) does? << Very different from multibit. Multibit is based on the Hearn BitcoinJ turd.
ben_vulpes: the goal is to do that and nothing more.
sjsqd: thanks for your time
sjsqd: ok I will save everyone's time and look through the mailing list, I might return with some further questions later on
ben_vulpes: the question under consideration is "what precisely does it mean to bitcoinate?"
asciilifeform: in the process of removing the idiot hardcoded seed list
nubbins`: slowly bringing it closer to the ideal of "one program to do one task"
ben_vulpes: a right, asciilifeform excised the dns.
ben_vulpes: dns is on the chopping block, etc.
ben_vulpes: someone removed the "alert" feature
nubbins`: rather than add more fat to the same, which is how the current "bitcoin core" release came to be
nubbins`: the goal is to trim the fat from the oldest still-working code base
ben_vulpes: sjsqd: it's just the old code.
sjsqd: but works with bitcoin just the same as any other client (multibit etc) does?
nubbins`: each patch is intended to be small enough that a human can read and understand it
sjsqd: but I assume the client you work on is different to bitcoin core? ☟︎
nubbins`: based on the original 0.5.3 source code, with plain ol' unix patches applied to de-turdify it
sjsqd: I guess the term official/alternative isn't the best to use
jurov: it should be stripped to bare minimum first
jurov: no it's the original client
nubbins`: it's the official foundation client :D
sjsqd: I'm still quite new to bitcoin, is the client that you release an alternative client?
sjsqd: nubbins`:given the current state of foundation communications it is actually quite difficult to ascertain exactly what it is tasked with doing
nubbins`: sjsqd the latest foundation release is 0.5.3.1
PeterL: is gmaxwell associated with the phoundation? I remember him coming by here a few times
nubbins`: making the codebase not a steaming pile of shit
sjsqd: I will probably be publishing a third at some point this week
assbot: Transparency: A Fresh Look at the Bitcoin Foundation, Part Two | Lets Talk Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1aLAXdR )
sjsqd: This is the first article I made if anyone is interested
assbot: A Fresh Look at the Bitcoin Foundation, Part One | Lets Talk Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1aLAWXl )
sjsqd: ok great, I will keep a record of this channel in my notes then
BingoBoingo: sjsqd: That foundation has never really had any transparency. Vessenes birthed it in the shadows and snuck out the same way.
nubbins`: think of them as the foundation and the phoundation, with the other guys being the ph
sjsqd: I will look at the mailing list, if I have further questions is there any email address I could use or is this IRC channel the best method of communication?
sjsqd: its certainly interesting to see two foundations with the same name (:
asciilifeform: sjsqd: the more heavily-advertised 'foundation' (vessenes, hearn, andresen, et al) was a scam from day one
sjsqd: nubbins`: the goal of my articles is to try and ascertain how transparently the foundation currently operates
sjsqd: do you know if anyone from the previous foundation is aware of it? ☟︎
nubbins`: if you check the mailing list archives on the .foundation website, there's a bunch of stuff there
sjsqd: I have done quite an amount of research on the foundation but never seen this page
nubbins`: sjsqd the only official statements are PGP-signed statements from members of assbot's wot
PeterL: this new foundations works on the assumption that the previous one does not exist
sjsqd: is this thread official in nature? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934517.0
jurov: sjsqd: the original one is the pirate one
sjsqd: but is it correct to title it as the 'pirate' bitcoin foundation?
asciilifeform: sjsqd: the first thing to know is that there are two foundations.
sjsqd: I couldn't find much reference to the original foundation in the documentation
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1aLALLE )
sjsqd: I'm writing some articles on the bitcoin foundation via Let's Talk Bitcoin
asciilifeform: too much to list
PeterL: asciilifeform: why do you say he did not get the message?
asciilifeform: for zoologists >> http://housejeffries.com/articles/unix-delenda-est << every month or so, i turn up a new lamer who read my articles but catastrophically failed to get the message. the ones who 'agree', like this specimen, are the worst kind.
PeterL: mircea_popescu:asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/nnJLHk9.jpg << I don't know why, but this made me laugh until my eyes waterred
PeterL: I am sure you can search for "search engine optimization", or SEO, and lots of sites will come up who promise to help
indiancandy1: why thank u
thestringpuller: short ints however are always shorter than long ints hence the name
thestringpuller: mike_c: lies. all lies. this is only if you use strict typing and you machine is coherent. every machine treats it differently!
jurov: the downside is, generated code for complicated diagrams isn't anything you'd want to show to anyone
jurov: it isn't faster to create the code, but it makes it sooo easier to find the right place where stuff needs to be fixed
jurov: trinque, have you tried drakon editor? i actually use it for business logic
PeterL: why in c is a long int the same size as int? ☟︎
mod6: jurov: so as far as shorter release cycles, i think going forward they will be. the foundation will focus on say, one specific problem and then tackle it, patch it, and then regression test, release.
jurov: so that no one mistakes that for release
jurov: set the version to 0.5.3.x.dev