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mircea_popescu: rather than franceg, say ?
decimation: I suspect the real reason that usg makes it difficult is because a suppressed small arm has real utility against usg
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I'm not sure what you agree to when you buy one but you definitely need a note from stalin
asciilifeform: iirc they're limited to public servants or folks willing to license themselves as 'museums' (complete with fingerprinting, letters of recommendation from mayor, surprise inspections, ... etc)
decimation: you can buy them in the us, if they are legal in your state and you submit many forms to usg
asciilifeform: so the suppressors (sop in eu) were banned as something only a 'shady crook' would use
asciilifeform: decimation: this might have to do with the fact that much of what u.s. folks take to the shooting galleries seems to exist for little purpose but to make an impressive 'bang'
decimation: I guess going deaf at the range is an implied rite of manhood
decimation: asciilifeform: one thing that bewilders me is why suppressors and subsonic ammo is not popular in the us
asciilifeform: see the 'saw-off' mosin earlier in thread
decimation: as fucktarded as that is
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, you can even buy the parts to turn your milled receiver into a pistol http://www.bushmaster.com/firearms/pistols.asp
asciilifeform: decimation: they have this ancient law, where that one part is the only thing that 'counts' as a limited item, and the rest of the weapon can be bought with cash in a shop or even outdoor market
decimation: so I don't think he's serious. although the idea of milling your own 'm-4gery' out of an '80%' receiver is a neat one
decimation: sure. and whoever is free to make a press release about it
asciilifeform: it isn't the national post
asciilifeform: fedex is, afaik, free to boycott whoever
decimation: obviously, he's selling them as 'death in a box'
decimation: he recently posted that fedex banned shipping his 3d milling machines
decimation: re: wilson < it strikes me that he's just trying to get publicity
asciilifeform: '3d printer', for those unfamiliar, is a very costly item. i don't even keep one here, can't justify
asciilifeform: because much simpler even than what they do
asciilifeform: to round off the electrobullet thread, i made this gedankenexperiment up for this just to show what folks like wilson -would- be doing if they were serious ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'm making a sjsqd megapiece, it's great that convo.
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mircea_popescu: in teh logs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got a link to where you go "omg wtf bbq am i the only one trying to run these shitstacks"
asciilifeform: bonus points for the bullet exercise if you can dispense with the 'mold' entirely and form the conical part purely with field gradient in the bath
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> (who has du in his cellar? anyone with a boat or airplane graveyard) << Anyone in Iowa has too much
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform such trials particularly suited to electroprocess.
asciilifeform: (not much seen in reality, due to shockwaves, but doesn't keep aficionados from trying)
asciilifeform: the 'glass bullet' is as nearly as old as the detective story genre.
mircea_popescu: for that matter : sodium bullets encased in very thin metal : just thick enough to carry it through the air. once it fractures on impact, sodium released.
mircea_popescu: metallic arsenic bullets. an assassin's dream come true
asciilifeform: if that's what's in your cellar - then yes
asciilifeform: even, e.g., tungsten
asciilifeform: briefly back to the bullet thread: the most interesting thing about the suggested method is that any material can be used, so long as it conducts and behaves reasonably well as aqueous ion
mircea_popescu: if there's a way to show the cultural superiority of the 4th republic, this film in this context is it.
mircea_popescu: listen, do this : pirate it, sit the girl down one fine evening after a delicious repast, watch this thing.
mircea_popescu: lol alf's crazy gnome lab. "insert pipe here, piss in this funnel and point this end towards enemy".
mircea_popescu: does this cup mine copper ?
asciilifeform: the concept is meant to address an earlier thread - 'pashtun can make ak but rounds are still from izhevsk'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: have them machined grossly then electrofined << nonono - whole point is to make'em in a cup in kitchen, jungle conditions
Vexual: build the spin in
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this needs only the most trivial form of electrolytic machining - with ready-made cavity
mircea_popescu: have them machined grossly then electrofined.
mircea_popescu: yeah, this is happening.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes: incidentally, bullet would be a perfect 'killer app' for electrolytic machining. low mass, touchy geometry
mircea_popescu: Liberza is this cnn ?
mircea_popescu: so basically... either water the plantville farm all day, or else go talk to tlp's intensive pilling unit, or worse!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we already have this. in slow motion
mircea_popescu: i used to know poor people like that. all the things they couldn't afford, they didn't do not because they couldn't afford them
mircea_popescu: tbh, that is the only logical end game : US of Best Korea, where everything is banned not because they can't afford anything, but for Ideological Reasons. Honest.
asciilifeform: or at the very least, to provide the justification-furniture when the bans are rolled out
asciilifeform: one could make two or three mental leaps and suppose that his work is for getting ammo banned by usg quicker
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I suspect is is merely a broad net to collect information on malcontents
asciilifeform: what kind of 'sin' is he meant to tempt 'sinners' into?
mircea_popescu: whai such much lulz everywhere today!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Market means the same. At best I assume Cody is an agent...
asciilifeform: i.e., it no longer means 'where you go to trade money for $goodies' but just 'place you go to dump excess money'
asciilifeform: does 'market' mean something other than it did when i learned engl.?
asciilifeform: '...We have plenty of assassination markets now...' << lol, he said this?!
asciilifeform: who the others are - no idea
mircea_popescu: isn't cody wilson the guy with that blog, what was it called
mircea_popescu: <decimation> it's all a game of who can pass the liability to usg the most directly <<< quite.
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decimation: at any rate, you can purchase a house with your retirement account, and a no-recourse mortgage is used for that
decimation: it's all a game of who can pass the liability to usg the most directly
decimation: well, functionally in the us nearly all mortgages are 30 year fixed loans
asciilifeform: or who the hell would get the other kind
decimation: one semi-popular scam to run in the us is to buy a house with your "IRA"
decimation: re: no recourse mortgages < banks hate these, but you can get them
asciilifeform: 'A few years ago, Etsy lifted some of its stricter sales requirements, including a ban on sellers using certain manufacturing techniques and hiring staff...'
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/author/scott-fargo/ << Actual retardation from a subhuman creature that pretends to the title of mammal
asciilifeform: if this is 'intelligent', what's retardation look like ?
asciilifeform: 'According to neighbors and a man who hired the teen to write for his Web site, the Osbourn Park student was quiet in person but exceptionally intelligent — authoring articles on complicated science and technology topics.' (wa. p.) << mega-l0l
asciilifeform struggles to recall the traditional term for the kind of technowankery where folks buy 'pro' tools without any place to use or relevant skill
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asciilifeform: iirc we had the 'can you club with it' thread
BingoBoingo: Nah, 5 exists, 4 though is the sweet spot.
asciilifeform: (iirc all the m-whatever things are Al but for the barrel)
asciilifeform: as in, anywhere in the thing
BingoBoingo: Mosin's great virtue for USian civilian is that it costs roughly 1/10th anything equivalent from domestic manufacterer
BingoBoingo: In contemporary USian deployments designated marksmen carries M-14 with a plastic stock and has specialization like the machine gunner
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BingoBoingo: Basic requirements for such tool are full power rifle round and semi auto action
asciilifeform: enlarged ak-like thing that takes mosin rounds
asciilifeform: the term, iirc, refers to the one man in a platoon who was actually taught any marksmanship and is expected to aim
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yes. His range extends to visual past what assualt rifle can not reliably hit fatally, but still visual
BingoBoingo: USia's hotness this past decade has been taking M-14's and converting to "designated marksmen rifles"
asciilifeform is an armchair general and recommends that aficionados seek out the primary sources.
asciilifeform: ru school of thought took, unsurprisingly, opposite tack
asciilifeform: americans took the whole 'golden sniper toilet' thing almost to logical conclusion, with microprocessorized wind&elevation calculators, bullets turned on lathes (!), etc
BingoBoingo: Hathcock's narrative though included using light machine guns as bolt action rifle because US lacked adequate sniper rifle for 'Nam
BingoBoingo: USia claimed its own for a bt in the Hathcock guy
asciilifeform: yer thinking bourbaki mebbe
mircea_popescu: everything seems to be written by one potapov
mircea_popescu: you know i suspect potapov is like the ru mil pythagoras.