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trinque: mircea_popescu: I want the book on your life someday.
mircea_popescu: i thoughjt the discussion was "left alone"
asciilifeform: trinque: the place even has its own natural gas well << realize that it turns the place into a non-negotiable military objective - read: target - rather than survival haven
mircea_popescu: so it may be a case that YOU be thinking of another usa hm ? :D
mircea_popescu: i spent months going from town to town by bus.
asciilifeform: or perhaps where the amish are found ?
trinque: granted my parents farm might not be the most defensible place, but it *does* produce using about 1850s level tech
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from boston to nuevo laredo, all the way.
mircea_popescu: recall, i actually spent months walking that place.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i just think you'd admire someone who'd want to completely gut the welfare state
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you must be thinking of another usa on another alternate planet earth
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:41:27; asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand, this isn't ru circa 1917, the hypothetical rebels don't 'just want to be left alone' - not one in ten thousand is able to grow anything edible without regular deliveries of petrol, pesticides, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044342 << i think you grossly misunderstand it. yes, they'd love to be left alone, yes all of them could grow with no deliveries of anything. ☝︎
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mircea_popescu: trinque sure. but they're not the problem, either.
mircea_popescu: that was the equivalent of the mike hearn "let's test bitcoin". the result came out kinda clearly - 9 maybe 10 days. that's it.
trinque: nobody I was talking about collects food stamps
mircea_popescu: remember that time when food stamp system ran out of funds, took a three day hiaturs, everyone held their breath ?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:38:28; asciilifeform: if there were a 'rural militia' with above room-temperature iq, usa would already look like iraq
mircea_popescu: in a sense, the trying causes it.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 20:35:22; trinque: they can try; there are hordes of rednecks in the woods already stocked up for armageddon
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044327 << note that there weren't nearly as many of these in 1995. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well... once the usd v2.0 pistol rounds thinkg takes form, we can make these :D
asciilifeform: (being a rocket rather than cannon)
asciilifeform: but i bring it up because of the 'low-tech small arms' thread
asciilifeform: so no good for shooting a fella in the head directly. but otherwise worked
mircea_popescu: that trivially ended up pushing against branches etc ?
mircea_popescu: is this the french "rocket" fired from small arm ?
asciilifeform: as it used a miniature rocket (approx. the size of .5 round...) which was fin-stabilized and rotated, it needed only a very simple firing mechanism and low-pressure barrel
asciilifeform: famous failed product (no one seems to agree precisely why failed) but very instructive re: yesterday's thread
asciilifeform: you can shoot through u.s. 'walls' with almost anything
mircea_popescu: you can shoot through us style "walls" by ir with it just fine.
mircea_popescu: let's put it the other way : a sharp tungsten tipped .5 round is >20 bux.
mircea_popescu: by the time you're shooting this it supposedly no longer matters.
asciilifeform: even 'elite' pistolero has wrists, they aren't made of stone
asciilifeform: why not at least give it a wooden folding stock like the old 'mauser'
mircea_popescu: it is just about at the tolerance level of a physically elite man.
asciilifeform: sorta reminiscent of the late-medieval 'hand cannone'
mircea_popescu: it's hard to fire for womenz.
asciilifeform: walk up to it?
asciilifeform: where, at the airfield ?
mircea_popescu: but the ap variant cuts through any practical armor, and generally can be used against lightly armored aircraft as well.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the thing is just on the margin : the common "action express" .5 round is generally stopped by a level 3 and always by a level 4 vest.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bmg is a machine gun round not a pistol round
mircea_popescu: apparently the de .5 ap, explosive, incendiary etc rounds are secret on internet.en ?
asciilifeform: http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/52467.jpg << that one
asciilifeform: (the one found worldwide, actually used in everything from light aircraft to sniper)
asciilifeform: rather than what is called .50 bmg in usa
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: are you sure you were thinking of -this- .50 ?
mircea_popescu: except the thing pictured is not a proper ap round.
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/50_AE_and_32_ACP.jpg/275px-50_AE_and_32_ACP.jpg there.
asciilifeform: iirc most of the famous stockpile is '.40', a caliber unpopular outside of usg afaik
mircea_popescu: over the dead bodies of smokers.
mircea_popescu: why ? they banned smoking alright
asciilifeform: even to have it happen by accident would require some sort of standardization
mircea_popescu: usg survival plan once shtf ? "well...we got the largest stores of ammo of anyone...so..."
mircea_popescu: as in, they are actually making rounds the future currency ?
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone put together the "usg will target ammunition rather than small arms" with the "various agencies bought and stored millions of rounds at the beginning of this decade" to come to a "usg will ban ammunition period" thing yet ?
mircea_popescu: but yes, thisd would make sense, with some shitty alt.
mircea_popescu: they specifically said bitcoin tho
asciilifeform: (they typically do nowadays)
asciilifeform: also - until we hear otherwise - safe to assume that it was mining a crackpot alt
cazalla: what's the other in race demo? jews?
mike_c: it'll be interesting to see it after another couple 10x bumps
mircea_popescu: mike_c anyway, the demographic that supposedly "doesn'ty exist" and "doesn't matter" and "never wins elections" and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: (in fact it's mostly white with more asian than "normal", which considering the normal is gawker-and-wikipedia dumbternets... )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044298 << it's so appalingly dumb tho. cpu bitcoin miner would barely make any satoshi. ☝︎
cazalla: maybe qntra needs quotas so that 30% of readers are women
cazalla: what's behind the push for such things?
mircea_popescu: the demographics of qntra readership as depicted by quantcast never cease to amaze me.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/18YwKCU )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo that epicscale debacle prolly qntrable.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044250 << holy shit this is the stupidest thing ever. srsly, cpu mining ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'find a place to stick an extra methyl where it won't matter but now patentable'
asciilifeform: i'll add that virtually 100% of r&d investment by extant pharma firms is precisely this and only this
mircea_popescu: right. the tlp described phenomenon of "oh, this class of medicine is now generic ? guess what, on a review of the data available it turns out it wasn't effective anyway, so we're using Y now instead".
asciilifeform: they're permitted industry, just under very... different terms
asciilifeform: there is always some joker standing ready to take over from whatever widget is up for the ban hammer
asciilifeform: one of the most famous idiocies was the light bulb thing
mircea_popescu: anyway, to imagine the "ban smoking" thing is an isolated incident is naive. no, there's a shitton of these underway, continuously, and generally unreported.
asciilifeform not diligent scholar of the subject
asciilifeform: haven't seen an auto shop yet that stocks anything but Pb battery
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't be so sure you'll get permits for new development in the us, eithert.
asciilifeform: (in usa, cars, trucks, 'ups' - ~100% Pb)
mircea_popescu: im not really that up to date. prolly.
asciilifeform: what did they decree? NiMH?
asciilifeform: hm must be eu thing
asciilifeform: pretty much the only remaining use permitted worldwide is battery
mircea_popescu: i don't think you may use pb anymore.
asciilifeform: (less if actually put to use)
asciilifeform: standard Pb cells are good for 2-3 tops
mircea_popescu: then they run for 4 years and have to replace the batteries, and run for another 2 and there's a lightning strike and have to replace them again. tru story.
mircea_popescu: some of the cleverer dcs use them bnecause they're so very tolerant. which makes it the best heuristic to evaluate the operational wisdom of any dc.
asciilifeform: same story as the rest of technocivilization
mircea_popescu: people generally went for the "cheaper" solutions that rarely last 5 years
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc decade old data, it cost about 2.5-3x as much but obviously you never had to replace anything.
asciilifeform: wonder what they charge.
asciilifeform: ^ lol, is that an american firm?!
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mircea_popescu: cazalla hardest thing for a fraudster is to keep the story straight.