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mircea_popescu: i like that he's doing at least one a day.
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mircea_popescu: none ?! what teh shit.
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cazalla: your spambot clearly works if it labels pivoting to incubating startups as spam
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell Pierre_Rochard mais merci !
pete_dushenski: cazalla not only did i not realise that, but your comment was definitely caught up on the spamhole so thx for the heads up !
cazalla: pete_dushenski, not sure my comment went through but fyi, the bitcoin center ny is getting into incubating startups if you didn't know already :)
mircea_popescu: heh if only. in fact, the state doesn't pull all choice into becoming public. that's an insanely optimistic view of the process. the state pulls public choice into meaninglessness, and then ruins all alternative.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is jonathan buckwheat.
decimation: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2015/02/michael_munger_1.html < "Guest: And that--I do want to keep defending Buchanan. What Buchanan's worried about is a monolithic Leviathan. Because he thought, once you have a state, it will just eat all of the other choices. It will pull all of them inside, like a sort of great vortex. All of the choices will become public because that's the way that states work. That's the logic, is to expand.
mircea_popescu: that was the receiving end. the providing end however, http://dpaste.com/1CPDMJY
mircea_popescu: ironically, those people like me about as much as us democrats like ron paul.
mircea_popescu: fancy that.
mircea_popescu: "You beast! You will pay hand over fist, you and the [Romanian political party]'s newspaper The Power that allows you to shit your dirty shit! This time you're fucked! See you in court garbage!"
assbot: The woman's job. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvRvDK )
mircea_popescu: the daily wtf comes to us from eliza i. http://trilema.com/2014/the-womans-job/#comment-112565
ben_vulpes: but really it comes back to the wot.
ben_vulpes: this also entails delegating projects of various scope in different domains to them and then carefully reviewing delivered code and user-facing features.
ben_vulpes: i don't know about that. generally working with any given individual for a few months is enough to suss out their competence.
decimation: I suppose that part of the problem really is that humans need a few more generations to sort out how to have a 'status hierarchy' for programmers
ben_vulpes: decimation: all i know is how to google shit.
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kakobrekla: BingoBoingo> Studying CS would be a fine path if only the studiers would accept being deprived of computers until their 30's < hehe my old man was writing code years before he first saw a computer.
decimation: punkman: yeah that's a good point. the outside visibility on a superficial level is somewhat obscure
assbot: On Secretly Terrible Engineers | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATuK4o )
decimation: http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/08/on-secretly-terrible-engineers/ < mostly rambling but has an interesting point "The difference between finance, management consulting, and engineering is that the first two fields have status hierarchy, and the third one doesn’t." ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Studying CS would be a fine path if only the studiers would accept being deprived of computers until their 30's
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: "OMG I can make money programming compooters, i'd better jump on the CS bandwagon" << you tell me
thestringpuller: hacking the js's and css's
thestringpuller: now people drop out in 1st year and go to SF and work for start up after start up
thestringpuller: isn't that why people get CS degrees, or were getting?
ben_vulpes: that is, if you really lack the kind of mind that hungers for something beyond "money".
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: how so? what in your opinion is the best way?
thestringpuller: it's the first cad software I used so I guess it's kinda "mainstream" now
punkman: thestringpuller: everyone knows autocad, doesn't need to be in list
ben_vulpes: i still think CS is the worst way to make money programmering.
thestringpuller: "OMG I can make money programming compooters, i'd better jump on the CS bandwagon"
thestringpuller: most of the undergrads coming in had never seen a programming language in their lives so...
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i think brainfuck was the only thing that fits that criteria during my undergrad at least
thestringpuller: punkman: lol. how did autocad not make the list?
asciilifeform: and lisps are generally the easiest
thestringpuller: i don't think the undergrads are smart enough to implement lisp
thestringpuller: only LISP use in my undergrad program is in the AI courses
assbot: OpenSCAD - The Programmers Solid 3D CAD Modeller ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATtazF )
ben_vulpes: http://www.openscad.org << the cad program i mistook for freecad in a several months old thread.
asciilifeform: if ordered to 'write a lisp interpreter in three weeks'
asciilifeform: the kind of lisp undergrads tend to implement
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you're unfamiliar with it - autolisp is a 1970s style lisp (complete with unsolved 'funarg problem' !) similar to emacs elisp
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2yaahb/til_bertrand_russel_said_in_the_modern_world_the/cp7ob2k << the irony kills me here
ben_vulpes: http://www.afralisp.net/index.php << decimation i think was looking for CAD scripting?
asciilifeform: at any rate, only a serious case of braindamage would sabotage a key generator in such a way that duplicate moduli are produced
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i must confess that the most likely reason its bell has never rung is that i haven't the resources to actually process the 5 mil. or so donated pubkeys sitting here on local disk
thestringpuller: I will be interested in seeing what happens when you throw a key generator from here into the mix
asciilifeform not surprised, and vaguely remembers this having been posted here before
thestringpuller: written by a TA XD
thestringpuller: "Yes, it is as safe as generating your keys using a local application. The key generation on our website is done client-side only. This means the key pairs are generated entirely in your web browser and they never leave your computer. Our website never sees any key related data or the key itself."
asciilifeform: that's the only use case i can really think of for this
thestringpuller: before you open that link
ben_vulpes halfway expects 'node' 'gpg' to shell out to platform bins
asciilifeform opened up the distribution zip, flipped randomly, and saw a page full of nist curves !
thestringpuller: closed the tab
punkman: I think they had openpgp.js before
punkman: oh they got their own javascript pgp now https://keybase.io/kbpgp
ben_vulpes: "please compromise and brute force this juicy target."
thestringpuller: which causes more braindamages cause "consumer has come to expect"
punkman: but it's an option that shouldn't exist
punkman: thestringpuller: no the encrypted key backup thing is optional
thestringpuller: punkman: keybase is forcing users to trust in central authority rather than forcing users to learn "their lessons" ☟︎
ben_vulpes: punkman, thestringpuller: a "better keyserver"'d not be a bad thing to do.
punkman: thestringpuller: they more wanted to make a "better" keyserver, that linked to your twitter/github/whatever.
thestringpuller: like this is stuff for a good stand up
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: but its almost comical nao tho.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: at any rate, that particular flavour of idiocy has been around for a while
thestringpuller: i thought keybase held your keys for you cause people are stupid
punkman: there's a few of them
thestringpuller: how about we store private GPG keys in the javascript portion of the browser!
punkman: I don't mind the CSS, but the javascript situation is ridiculous
asciilifeform: the folks who are willing to use 'lynx' for 100% of their www needs already know who they are. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i don't consider browser that won't build across the whole posix planet to even 'count' for the purpose of discussion
ben_vulpes: what's the graphical www browser story over on le bsds?
asciilifeform: but my impression is that he's the 'boy stuffing his finger in the flood dike' as in the fairy tale
asciilifeform: a good chunk of the reputation of linus t. is that he's been fairly effective at keeping a lid on this kind of thing, historically ☟︎
asciilifeform: whereas the real issue is, whether google should be permitted to stuff arbitrary strange into mainline kernel on their say-so ☟︎
asciilifeform: bringing it back to the 'tsync' thread, there are two separate questions that the evil dwarves would have us believe are simply one - the technical merit or lack thereof of the 'tsync' mechanism
asciilifeform: as if it were possible for the machine itself to protest and say 'i don't like this particular 'what,' it was written to brutally rape the operator when the planets next align'
asciilifeform: shitgnomism is a thing mainly because these two very separate considerations somehow ended up munged into one
asciilifeform: the 'who' gets to contribute
asciilifeform: there are -two- separate types of policy re: a major project with 'open' contributions
asciilifeform: perhaps this is worth a brief digression: ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'camel wants his nose in the tent'
asciilifeform: i deliberately won't comment on the technical aspects (can't bring myself to give a damn) but the psychological patterns point to - power play
asciilifeform: but now google intends to force it through with the usual 'or we take the ball and go home' gambit.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it was tentatively accepted, but is not found in mainstream kernels - considered experimental
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: short summary: patch submitted by google chrome devs themselves; supposedly to simplify their sandbox 'jail' mechanism ☟︎
ben_vulpes: what on earth is tsync?
jurov: what's the problem with firefox?
asciilifeform: RIP last usable graphical www browser (chromium, that is, not chrome, but doubt that either will be runnable after this)
jurov: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2015/03/msg00133.html haha the replies
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