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mircea_popescu: let's move it in a different field. you acquainted with the happenstance that iconoclastic civilisations prospered intellectually whereas iconocladic civilisations failed ?
jurov: i have videos and podcasts as anyone, but this?
jurov: as compared to pretending "text is everything and forever will be"?
mircea_popescu: and i think the sort of idiots running around pretending "everything;'s something!11" are doing deaf people a major disfavor.
mircea_popescu: eh, while i can appreciate the theoretical beauty of this "fuck you, i'm a dragon" approach, i do not credit it any. in fact, i think it only exists because the context is of the "fuck you, dragons" nature.
jurov: and they hate the 1:1 attempts to translat speech into signs
mircea_popescu: (i didn't mean speech as in the sound thereof)
jurov: not for prelingval deaf, the "grammar" is purely visual
jurov: signs are teh best!!1
mircea_popescu: (In linguistics, an adjunct is an optional, or structurally dispensable, part of a sentence, clause, or phrase that, if removed or discarded, will not otherwise affect the remainder of the sentence.)
dignork: jurov: afaik it was russian project where they tried to build complex software, like space c&c.
mircea_popescu: obviously it's an adjunct. everything can be an adjunct to speech.
mircea_popescu: an' i'm tellin' you, "visual" is not a complete language.
jurov: and woinder if they have known what we know of retina, how would it end up
mircea_popescu: well actually, yeah, this is what i do :) my fucking thesis was on the limits of knowledge.
jurov: but i consider things like drakon editor a feeble attempt led by gut feeling of russina mathematicians
jurov: you don't tell me what i can do and don't. i already combine charts and text for production code
mircea_popescu: and if you can't do that, which is the absolute bare minimum of communication, you can't do anything meaningful.,
mircea_popescu: only because there's a textual context to generously support it.
jurov: there was the cad example, for curves that meaningfully stand for something
mircea_popescu: this is where anything but text fails : no abstractive power.
mircea_popescu: i think the bitrate approach misses the fundamental point here. you'll never beat the bitrate of "put out random pixels" with any bitmap approach.
jurov: even if, the knowledge is not yet being used in practice to achieve better bitrates
mircea_popescu: that somehow didn't emerge. so wait, reverse engineer the retina ? in what sense ? it's pretty well described as is
jurov: but everyone is so used to text, it will be hard
mircea_popescu: that said, feel free to draw out your love and other emotions, preferably directly on the object, with sticky matter.
mircea_popescu: the day someone makes derp++ and starts iterating splines in a cube conditional, we can revisit this.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't, we wouldn't CODE IN FUCKING TEXT
jurov: i concede all the other attempts were feeble, but it may not be the ultimate case
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2015 00:04:10; mircea_popescu: i can accept that SOME PEOPLE actually need their monitor to graphics. so make a gamestation. otherwise, we're fucking literate, we're not women, nothing beats text. ever.
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2015#1047115 << implies that text is by far fastest/most reliable channel to push bits into the brain ☝︎
mircea_popescu: davout ayup, it's a thing.
adlai: what really amazed/disappointed me was that NONE of the initial press coverage of 'soylent cream' mentioned 'soylent green' ☟︎
cazalla: i'll have to check that one out
cazalla: i enjoyed it but it's not exactly up there amongst my top fav cult films, that spot is claimed by a chinese ghost story and the young and dangerous series
adlai spent >90% of his lifelong screen-watching-time in the army
adlai: hmmaybe? i just watched whatever the other sergeant said was a movie we had to watch
adlai: usually i like cult films but this is an exception, if it wasn't for hours of boredom that had to be staved off somehow i'd never have even finished it
adlai: cazalla: battle royale << i'm sorry but that was a terrible movie, basically Running Man without arnie = worthless
cazalla: i'll give you one guess as to who i am quoting
cazalla: in the June timeframe — to have a scheduled hardfork to increase the block size in it. I probably won’t get there. It’ll probably be in the release after that, but we’ll see.
cazalla: I’m actually, right now, working on just getting consensus among the five, what I call, core developers — the five developers who have push access to the git code. I think I’m getting close to convincing them that we have a plan that will work. I’m probably going to have to write some more code . . . I think we have a year to eighteen months. I would love the next release of bitcoin — the next major release, which will be sometime
davout: kakobrekla: you're not coming to BA btw?
davout: cazalla: yeah, that's right. i just need to kill some time while http://xkcd.com/303/
cazalla: davout, that 20mb block size limit thread derailed 50 pages back
davout: ;;rate justusranvier -10 not sure whether the guy is malicious, stupid or both. either way...
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davout: ;;rate justusranvier -10 not sure whether the guy is malicious, stupid or both. either way...
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -10 for justusranvier with note: not sure whether the guy is malicious, stupid or both. either way...
davout: !rate justusranvier -10 not sure whether the guy is malicious, stupid or both. either way...
davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu hory shet, i was just thinking about this, how every single bitcoin noob and nigger displays this particular feature, he has "found a problem", and "wants to fix it"
ben_vulpes: oh that's delightful
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assbot: kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hs5VCs )
mircea_popescu: and with that, i'm off!
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/who-made-this/
mircea_popescu: not to mention i still distinctly recall my cat-ish mistrust as an 8 yo boy confronted with "special symbols". why exactly something like $ is even needed, or useful, is imo still open to debate.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, it is unclear to me that the notion of "fonts" adds any value whatsoever and is anything other than shitgnomism, 80s flavour.
mircea_popescu: it's so apt that, you know that ilf of ilf & petrov fame also was an initialism ?
mircea_popescu: it can wait while i finish my cake slice too.
mircea_popescu: the world was apparently content to wait fifty fucking years for us to come along
ben_vulpes: x11, the whole nine.
ben_vulpes: it's a trillion dollar project if you swallow the whole spitoon of what constitutes modern computing.
mircea_popescu: a pretty good place to deploy them, too.
ben_vulpes: i know this, but for the loggerheads.
mircea_popescu: which argument is that ?
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2015 00:04:10; mircea_popescu: i can accept that SOME PEOPLE actually need their monitor to graphics. so make a gamestation. otherwise, we're fucking literate, we're not women, nothing beats text. ever.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2015#1047115 << this is why i don't quite buy the "trillion dollar project" argument. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and in the daily wtf, http://40.media.tumblr.com/7213e1473373def4e3cff85f189a6ae1/tumblr_nira03BKqI1u1gbqro1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: i guess the answer im looking for is no.
mircea_popescu: well if they sold all the doge in the world...
BingoBoingo: No idea if they have? can they afford a tld?
mircea_popescu: hey, has doge registered the .moon tld yet ?
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mircea_popescu: <decimation> other than being a megalomaniac and/or sick fuck << kinda the definition.
ben_vulpes: y'no see the tag, and the drapes, and the tag, and the being of in the bathroom?
cazalla: asciilifeform, towel or gown is my bed
asciilifeform: leg shape in toilet on upper right hand corner of photo is ben_vulpes ?
cazalla: my staffy lived for 16 years and she was only permitted into the laundry
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes got the dog properly level ?
cazalla: i love dogs but a dog in the house.. i dunno mang
ben_vulpes: also tonight the beast acquired a new trick: "hold the fuck still while i put things on you"
asciilifeform: or, conversely, to lose state when closed down
asciilifeform: and have no desire to boot
asciilifeform: and then put back on shelf or in bag
asciilifeform: because i often use machine for a minute or two at a time
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for me in particular? or asking why difficult to implement correctly
ben_vulpes: why is suspend to ram such a big deal?
decimation: more interesting are all of the server motherboards, but it seems like support is limited to old opterons
asciilifeform has had more than his fill of 'sort of work
decimation: the main issue are all the peripherals. they sort of work.
asciilifeform: decimation: iirc 'efi' (standard apple/sun/sgi bootloader) a) has published source b) doesn't do particularly much in the first place
decimation: asciilifeform: re: old macbooks < apparently coreboot supports the old 1,1 and 2,1 macbooks
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that beast yours ?
cazalla: not that i'd buy one, but at least these new mac laptops have 16:10 display.. with all the 16:9's doing away with master race 16:10's, it must be coming back into fashion
decimation: because unlike reactionaries, nobody on the left can actually claim to legitimately vest sovereignty in a particular person - all leftist government are of a temporary and emergency nature
decimation: on another note, another lesson to learn from the french revolution: the problem with being a lefty populist is that there's always someone else who is a little more left and a little more populist
decimation: other than being a megalomaniac and/or sick fuck
decimation: mircea_popescu: re: terrorist < eh, I don't see it. what does it benefit the terrorist to even bother?
ben_vulpes: the troll who trained shanley? blocking trolls?