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BingoBoingo: next step from that is "scram cannon"
asciilifeform: typically used in experimental physics, rather than war, because it is rather fussy
asciilifeform: 'light gas gun' is its own animal, where a gas where speed of sound is faster than in air is used as a 'piston'
assbot: File:45mm CLGG figure 1.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1C5lt0g )
asciilifeform: where the propellant is H and O produced via electrolysis for each shot
asciilifeform: incidentally, to continue an earlier thread with mircea_popescu et al re: 'jungle bullet' - has anyone ever attempted to militarize the old familiar 'hydrogen cannon' ?
BingoBoingo: At one point in Civ II I edited the files to add the yellow truck as a unit type
BingoBoingo: Ah, you mean like that time Uhaul rented a truck from their yellow competitor to sully that brand
asciilifeform: what will almost certainly be usg-banned quite soon - and banned the way chemistry as a class was, rather than as specific types of small arm were - is flying machines
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: good physical reasons why you would not want to be standing even behind such a thing, much less holding it, when fired
jurov: laz0rs can be bannet more easily than that
jurov: don't see how'd ban that
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but if sufficiently crazy/monied/intelligent crackpot produces solid state laser pistol with more than anti vehicle firings per charge that isn't too portable they would likely consider it a purchase
jurov: carbon nanotubes can provide 10 times greater force than steel... that would make for quite an arbalest :> ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:40:05; trinque: there's something there too about being able to outwit the regulators by virtue of them not having the imagination to conceive the necessary ban
asciilifeform: usg could and did put down rebellion even in the era when arbitrary hardware was permitted to whoever could afford it
trinque: though I think that tends over time towards ever vaguer "regulations" which amount to "we can stop you for doing anything we deem 'dangerous'"
asciilifeform: trinque: it isn't like one could cut through a phalanx of usg stormtroopers and stay legally in the clear simply because the machine is not banned per se
trinque: there's something there too about being able to outwit the regulators by virtue of them not having the imagination to conceive the necessary ban ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usg-sponsored ($maxint) laser shenanigans traditionally involve chemical (that is, single-shot) machines
BingoBoingo: At the moment I imagine there is no explict ban because USG wants to see what Boeing might buy for them off of a sufficiently advanced crackpot while it is still safe to assume such things are minimally portable.
asciilifeform: trinque: if it were 10,000 times larger, would still be 'class 4'.
asciilifeform: trinque: i have a 'class 4' laser right in this room
jurov once had some stray thoughts about nanotubes-reinforced arbalest
BingoBoingo: There's state level prohibitions on top of things. In any number civilian taser/stun gun ownership is banned
asciilifeform: but still entertaining, this omission.
asciilifeform: not that appropriate text couldn't be crapped into the penal code overnight if lizardhitler wished it, mind you
asciilifeform: there are prohibitions on nukes (lol), poisons, and biowar - but that's, iirc, it.
asciilifeform: my understanding is that in usa, war machines that do not use pyrotechnic effects are not considered 'arms' and are not regulated at the national level ☟︎
asciilifeform: (in usa - anything that has only one hilt it being roughly 90 degree to the barrel, iirc, is legally 'pistol')
asciilifeform: still not sure how anything the size of a 1990s laptop can be called a 'pistol' with a straight face
asciilifeform: the one that makes it mandatory if ever becomes available on the market ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That, but also 'smart' in the sense of authenticates user is defacto forbiden because of New Jersey law.
asciilifeform: and this apparently is a great irritant to many marksmanship types who would much like electrical striker for a few percent decrease in mechanical jitter
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc 'smart' in the sense of electrical detonation is explicitly forbidden
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Still a lot of blame for this goes to the fuckers who made AR-style pistols. Some feasibe civilian arms in the US are simply not made due to the legal/regulatory cascade which would follow. (ex. 'smart' guns)
asciilifeform: only retracted when found a new use for the armed thugs
cazalla: danielpbarron, it could be the beard, i'd wager there is a higher ratio of men with beards than not in #b-a and higher ratio of men with bikini wax at /r/bitcoin
BingoBoingo: Well, there was that one time they listened to women on booze and retracted, but it was an earlier time.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They will likely try that yes. It's just very expensive politically to anger the gun lobby in this way.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reprieve << ahaha lol no. it's the usual 'we'll slip it up your arse later when brouhaha is over and nobody's paying attention' usg business.
assbot: Chemistry Incident in Manchester. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1b0JQQF )
danielpbarron: new tshirt slogan for nubbins "I AM MP"
danielpbarron: i guess it's the beard or something
cazalla: and here i thought it was nubbins or perhaps even hanbot
assbot: Notice to those Commenting on the Armor Piercing Ammunition Exemption Framework | ATF ... ( http://bit.ly/18yUUmp )
BingoBoingo: lol, looks like in the case of bullets vs. ATF bullets have recieved a reprieve http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2015-03-021015-advisory-notice-those-commenting-armor-piercing-ammunition-exemption-framework.html
danielpbarron: i had to literally de-"bug" .. :/
thestringpuller: Ballmer was the Nero of MicroPoo
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Not at all, but it is interesting how the ghost of HP is trying to do anything it can to say "Butt weur gud guiz, buy from us"
ascii_field: and occupy much of their time reversing them
ascii_field: but did you really expect microshit to patch without opening a new orifice? because that'd be a first.
_FeltPen: excellent. qntra does good work, that site is how I discovered this channel. fwiw.
davout: ascii_field: hah! that too
ascii_field: davout: whatcha gonna suggest next, the 'foreign legion', lol
mircea_popescu: anyway, im off! tell all the stoyas.
davout: (and technically you could also marry a french dude!)
davout: haha what about them?
thestringpuller: davout: although France is communist, they got style
ascii_field: davout: because anything other than usa
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeh, in sqlite it's all still broken into parts; I might be able to hax that tonight
thestringpuller: wait that works?
ascii_field: lol 'meee tooo'
davout: which dates and amounts i crosscheck against... teh webpage :p
mircea_popescu: (also what i meant was, you can check thje address see payments received)
mircea_popescu: speaking of which yo trinque ! old deeds ? new display style ?
mircea_popescu: davout it can't hurt but i'm about to hop in a car. will make a deed when im back later
mircea_popescu: also i'm very well connected into the old style strong set, so there is that.
davout: mebbe the haxxorer also changed other addresses on the same page, signing can't really hurt can it
mircea_popescu: ascii_field has an excellent point : this is a fine time to make new keys / reorganize the keyplan, make a master key which then signs other keys as you need etc.
mircea_popescu: davout for one, it's the sameaddress everyone else paid to
ascii_field: incidentally, if someone wants to generate a fatter key, now would probably be a good time
davout: ascii_field: totally
ascii_field: possibly we do a 'key party' this time ?
davout: as for the signature, how do i verify your wordpress wasn't haxxored?
davout: mircea_popescu: i noticed the decimals thing on mike_c's quote as well :)
mircea_popescu would rather see stoya here than paul graham.
ascii_field: i like how plane ticket is more expensive than VIP ticket << where'ya flying from
ascii_field: it didn't talk..
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: how much was it from up there in the mountains?
thestringpuller: i like how plane ticket is more expensive than VIP ticket
thestringpuller: like nubbins` joking about dufflebag of cocaine in trunk while we cross canadian border
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's not funny. this is srs bsns.
mircea_popescu: davout notrly, because i may have to verify people later, in person, whereas you won't have to verify payments later in a different venue.
mircea_popescu: davout it's a running joke with jurov and others that watch the mpex statements :)
davout: and if we're doing signatures it's probably the payment address that needs to be signed along with the amount
davout: however, it has more than 8 decimal places
davout: mircea_popescu: ty for the quote
mircea_popescu: btw - only a few days left, hurry up in case the btc collapses.
thestringpuller: ah so mr. davout is going to conference
assbot: Various kinds of stickiness pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHiMPR )
mircea_popescu: and check this shit out : http://trilema.com/2013/various-kinds-of-stickiness/#comment-112932
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHiI2F )
mircea_popescu: wtf is this no vwap srsly.
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cazalla: how interesting is that eh
cazalla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu lucy, u got some 'splain' to do!
cazalla: kakobrekla: ascii_field not missing, 'betmoose' is right there, in the first comment. <<< might be the funniest thing i've read for a while
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> in other news, apparently apple released a portable machine that not only has slower cpu clock than the typical such box 5 yrs. ago - but cannot charge and use an external peripheral at the same time! << they want you to buy a thing to make more holes
thestringpuller: ;;later tell danielpbarron re: hosting images, direct that inuiry to BingoBoingo