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mircea_popescu: brendafdez how about something simple like, bar and dancing pole ? that's 100sqm right there.
mircea_popescu: you can't have a basement in the swamp. or good cheese, for that matter.
asciilifeform: i, for instance, tried to find a thing with a basement, here. but this was just beyond reach. instead i have a shipping-container-shaped 'garden shed'
brendafdez: yes, I bet when you have something you end up finding some use for it. My previous apartment had a trunk room, I used it to keep a lot of shit...
mircea_popescu: haha not quite. but the thing did say 1893
mircea_popescu: or if too old to get it up anymore, prized wine collection.
asciilifeform: for 1,001 things.
mircea_popescu: basement isalso good for all the chained bitchez.
asciilifeform: you will run into folks, for instance, who will whisper to you that they would have pistol range in their house if they could (a mighty fine idea, if you take care to separate the air flow)
asciilifeform: and just about everyone i know has some version of this
asciilifeform: brendafdez: i have entire things that i cannot do, for instance, because, while can afford the equipment - cannot, the space.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez depends on what lifestyle. place to throw a party. place to store a lot of books. place to practice some indoor hobby - from kendo to rockstaring.
BingoBoingo: <brendafdez> what would be the point of 500swm all to yourself? << Vax powered steam table
brendafdez: what would be the point of 500swm all to yourself?
asciilifeform: because the 500 (or 50) is cheaper still in the congo than in ro
asciilifeform: thing is, the 'numeric wank' is just that. more interesting is what chunk of their meager daily coin the folks in each town get fleeced for by the land rackets
mircea_popescu: besides, something tells me you'll salivate after the vibe of any place that's not washington fucking dc.
mircea_popescu: too close to lebanon tho.
asciilifeform still salivates after the 'vibe' of timis.
mod6: thanks BingoBoingo! although, it'd probably be better to link "first release" to this email: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000069.html
mircea_popescu: my apologies for any popped eyes in the audience.
mircea_popescu: timisoara. it thinks itself a major romanian town, but it's more like... well... portland, basically.
asciilifeform: 500 m^2 is ~6 times the space where i live now.
TheNewDeal: Small town or large city?
mircea_popescu: the girlies that lived alone in town generally got 500 sqm apts running 300ish a month.
asciilifeform: (that are b0rked half the time)
mircea_popescu: it came with my $7k a year two level + garden house in ro.
asciilifeform: strictly communal coin-operated things.
asciilifeform: in flats they are unheard of.
asciilifeform did not have 'own' washamat until the current ~2kBez bldg.
gribble: Square meters - Square feet units conversion: <http://www.unitsconversion.com.ar/surfaceunitsconversion/squaremeters-squarefeet.htm>; Convert square meter to square foot - area converter: <https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-area-from-m2-to-sqft.html>; Convert 250 square meters to square feet - Answers.com: <http://www.answers.com/Q/Convert_250_square_meters_to_square_feet>
mircea_popescu: ;;google 250 feet to sqm
TheNewDeal: Starving artists, the most popular homo sapien once the food supply runs shy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: top euro quality, fit for any artist to starve in
gribble: Garsoniera Confort II - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kItltk2J6_8>; Garsoniera confort 1 sporit - zona Trafic Greu ( Mall Libery Center ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si3wu8uw5p8>; Sector 4 - Garsoniera confort 1 - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX3yhw2LO90>
mircea_popescu: "For the first time in New York City, a multi-unit building will (legally) consist entirely of what the city has dubbed "micro units," which are apartments of between 250 and 370 square feet." << this is almost exactly it!
gabriel_laddel: I always wonder about the people who see this sort of thing everyday but never connect the dots, how do they internally deal with actual reality? I once flipped through the book Dangerous Thoughts by Yuri Orlov. He claimed that in the soviet collapse people would have multiple "selves". When they would break the law that would be their "off work" I, vs. the at work I who would report such a transgression to the poli
decimation: asciilifeform: garbage man too, especially in maryland
asciilifeform: phun phact (also noted by al) - fella who holds the 'stop' sign all day makes 2x what a typical postdoc makes.
gabriel_laddel: <asciilifeform> we have these here in abundance << I saw one outside the Palo Alto four seasons just the other day... 20 guys just standing around more or less.
asciilifeform: where nothing ever seems to get constructed
asciilifeform: state law (in more than a few states) is that, as al schwartz writes here, fines double (or in 'school zone', quadruple, etc)
mircea_popescu: dude, shakespeare had only part of it. not only is the world a stage, but the same old play is going on endlessly.
asciilifeform: we have these here in abundance
mircea_popescu: "construction zones that only constructed themselves" fuck, that's SO DAMNED SOVIET!
mircea_popescu: i'm curious if it's going to yield some sort of ragnarok-like "the world is doomed" (seems to jive with the "austerity won't work for us so it doesn't work period" self-seeking ignorance) or some sort of ultraviolent civil war of six sides, like in japan
gabriel_laddel: ^ what happens in the USA
assbot: THE ORANGE COUNTY GUN SHOW ... ( http://bit.ly/1DBN1ud )
decimation: also note that most of these millenials were raised in relative prosperity in the rich 'burbs of the 80's
gabriel_laddel: since the beginning, that's the whole of puritanism, no?
mircea_popescu: curious what comes out of this creuzet.
mircea_popescu: but the us has been hating itself, quite loudly at that, for decades now.
mircea_popescu: ironically, neither group (ru, ro) selfhated pre the experience.
gabriel_laddel: <mircea_popescu> what was the fucking soviet term for this, << kommunalki?
asciilifeform: worked in ru too
mircea_popescu: not that it was avoidable, but it did make for enduring hatred for both communism and russians.
mircea_popescu: but god did romanians hate this stuff after the war.
mircea_popescu: five-six thousand years later you'll be launching the titanic!
mircea_popescu: incidentally : shared kitchens are absolutely the ONLY way to go high density. gotta let the women become friendly so the tribal structure re-emerges. once they're breastfeeding each other's babies you can start over with the moses desertwalk.
mircea_popescu: where they put all the peasants that went to town to work
mircea_popescu: what was the fucking soviet term for this,
mircea_popescu: 'The authors of a new report from the Boston Foundation, a philanthropic organization that funds local nonprofits, prefer the phrase "millennial villages," dorm-like developments that maximize space by combining smaller living spaces with lots of common areas.
asciilifeform: yeah but in this case it is as if the occupant had been mummified and nothing detectably changed in the behaviour of the visitors pre- and post-mortem
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for all i care people are still paying to visit graceland.
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 04:23:25; asciilifeform: '"chumpatron X debt continues to drag on the young generation, limiting their ability to be milked in chumpatron Y," the analysts said.'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2015#1057358 <<< ahahah this. ☝︎
asciilifeform: in that a stable of parasites is still drawing fat salaries there, as if nothing whatsoever had happened
mircea_popescu: assbot: Young Adults Are Losing All Hope of Buying a Starter Home - check it out, being a twentysomething usian kid is a worse fate than being a 20something chinese kid.
asciilifeform: in the usg sense
asciilifeform: speaking of that article, notice that even stratfor is still a going concern
nubbins`: oh right i was gonna fiddle with that
asciilifeform: aha mircea_popescu grasps the subtlety here
mircea_popescu: as opposed to downshifting.
asciilifeform: implication is, sorta, turning down the poverty thermostat on somebody
mircea_popescu: you can't have moral persons that have delegated their authority. everyone in the us agrees that they're obeying laws because they're laws, not because they're right. consequently, american citizens can not be moral agents.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usa has no 'austerity way' but does have the inevitable убеднение (orlov tried to introduce the term to engl., but it has no good ready translation)
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 04:18:01; decimation: I can't believe any moral person would sign up for this kind of thing
mircea_popescu: the ridicule of this after their "austerity as only way out" consensus in the 90s is completely lost, also in typical usian fashion.
mircea_popescu: which is why, in typical usian fashion, they're claiming currently that "austerity is not a way out" in the general.
mircea_popescu: it can't stop. this is a foregone conclusion, the us has no austerity way out
decimation: but because 'inflation measures' were off, not in june but maybe september, and this time for real
mircea_popescu: how does air manage to avoid being digested by mammals ? well...
mircea_popescu: or maybe they have the immunity of no substance.
decimation: meanwhile farther up the line, the bond & stock & currency markets wobbled wildly on news that the fed might this time really seriously stop printing money
asciilifeform: and have enough 'immune system' remaining to avoid digestion by 'isis', pirates, or #b-a thus far
mircea_popescu: in this sense, so is my unicorn princess.
asciilifeform: both are 'going concerns' in the sense that they keep a great many folks out of the organ market
mircea_popescu: when confronted with stuff such as, you know "quite a few 'civilians' don't believe me when i explain that the 'publishers' do not edit, or - in most cases - even typeset the submissions; and that not only do authors receive no royalties, but often -pay- page costs"
mircea_popescu: strange that anyone would even for a single second propose the usg even exists as a going concern,
asciilifeform: see rest of thread
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: but even if it were true - still a joke. picture, full year's embargo. << i actually don't see much of a problem with this. most "science" is worthless anyway, i currently don't read it if it's less than a coupla decades old on general principle. a year's embargo wouldn't do anything.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2015 04:14:00; asciilifeform: it was a mindfuck. went to see this one place, it had... 8 bois/gurlz
asciilifeform: obligatory thread: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2015#996775 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ouses by 85 percent since 2009, the report found.'
asciilifeform: 'Here's why millennial villages might be a good idea. Boston doesn't have enough small apartments to satisfy demand from young adults and their boomer-parents. Millennials in particular have responded to the small-unit shortage by doubling and tripling up in housing originally built for middle-income families. That trend has helped drive up the average sales price of a single unit in one of Boston's distinctive triple-decker h
asciilifeform: also ancient newspiece, presumably that anthill is already packed to bursting point
decimation: asciilifeform: the inhabitants are expected to spend 100% of their income in 'consumption'
assbot: Bloomberg unveils those tiny, tiny Manhattan apartments | Capital New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1DBKLmW )
decimation: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2013/01/7284318/bloomberg-unveils-those-tiny-tiny-manhattan-apartments < related "For the first time in New York City, a multi-unit building will (legally) consist entirely of what the city has dubbed "micro units," which are apartments of between 250 and 370 square feet."
asciilifeform: less space because the inhabitants are not expected to reproduce