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mircea_popescu: "Crowdfunding: Support
Titanovo’s Novel
Telomere
Testing
Technology" complete with
their own scams an' errything.
mircea_popescu: "It's wise
to keep
track of what your mortal enemies do, and
there's little
that more exemplifies Pure Evil in
this world
than Eliezer Yudkowsky."
mircea_popescu: it gets worse,
there's entire swaths of particles
that are mirrored, you'll never know if you've got various pairs right or backwards.
decimation: mircea_popescu: one cannot speak with certainty about
the whereabouts of a single electron, even with infinite bezzlars
to dispose on
the
task
decimation: how is
that not exactly
the same as "oh wow,
that's so amazing'
mircea_popescu: decimation i don't
think anyone seriously considers
that entire "simulation as life"
thing outside of fiction.
mircea_popescu: How do I know I'm
the real deal instead of a crazed nutter? Because I
tend
to elicit
the 'damn,
that's so obvious now' reaction from people who elicit
that same reaction from people like you.
decimation: re: simulation > consider 266 bits.
the number of possibilities for
those bits is equal
to
the number of electrons in
the universe
mircea_popescu: "It annoys me
that idiots continue
to use "oh wow,
that's so amazing" as
the measure of creative genius. Or even worse,
that
they rely on society's direction
to determine who is a creative genius and who isn't. First of all, creative geniuses are RESPECTED and LOOKED UP
TO by society. And any position
that is looked up
to will be coveted by Narcissists who are driven by Glory, such as Richard Feynman who all his life w
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this discussion inspires me
to
the following ai standard : a computer
that can distinguish code from data is rational.
poli_: Thanks again for
the help Mircea,
talk
to yall later
mircea_popescu: farg is probably one of
the better approaches
to
the ai problem, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: rationality is, basically,
the ability
to distinguish homomorphisms from homologies.
mircea_popescu: rationality is a purely linguistic property, it has exactly nothing
to do with action.
mircea_popescu: "What is rationality? It's
the ability
to make life plans which reach your goals."
bitstein: asciilifeform: ah, okay. i'll peruse
that.
mircea_popescu: can't figure out how
to
thank
that physics dude
that read what seems like > 500 pages of shit.
mircea_popescu: i've known many of
these,
they look like radiation. sooner or later start moving
toward wall.
mircea_popescu: all sorts of fun could be had here. what if i get a simulation of me
to impregnate
the actual girl, and
then i impregnate
the simulation of her.
decimation: I
take all of
the above writing as evidence
that
the authors in question have never
tried
to create a real simulation on an actual computer
mircea_popescu: i suppose i got
to ask lesswrong,
they seem
to know all sortsa shit about how shit
that doesn't exist works.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what happens if i make
two simulations of
the same one slavegirl and order
them both
to fight
to
the death ?
poli_: personal opinion
there
poli_: Plus, I didn't
think
the Roko's Basilisk scenario was all
that likely.
bitstein: asciilifeform: is
there an archive somewhere of her writing?
mircea_popescu: i don't get
the argument
tho, why is superai of
the future influenced by ruminations of humans
today
mircea_popescu: poli_ so do
they keep attacking wikipedia
to
take it off ?
poli_: I figured you wouldn't be allowed
to bet on overtly non-legal happenings.
Thanks for
the help Mircea
poli_: and I don't mean 'impeached', I mean 'cease beingr president', but whatever means fate happens
to employ.
mircea_popescu: poli_ hit
the search button, select politics and all bets, and see what
the cat drags.
assbot: BitBet - Venezuelan President
to step down :: 0.34 B (17%) on Yes, 1.61 B (83%) on No | closed 11 months 1 week ago ... (
http://bit.ly/198pmUy )
poli_: Sweet, and
thanks for
the answer on
the question.
poli_: So burn all
the records so people dont
think of it
poli_: thereby bringing
the simulation into existence
poli_: Well
the idea is
that Roko's basilisk
poli_: But anyways, mine question. Would I be allowed
to bet on
the following question: President Poroshenko will cease
to be president of
the Ukraine within 4 months.
mircea_popescu: apparently caused several contributors who
took it seriously considerable anguish."
mircea_popescu: "Roko's basilisk is a
thought experiment
that assumes
that an otherwise benevolent future artificial intelligence (AI) would
torture
the simulated selves of
the people who did not help bring about
the AI's existence. [...]
The concept was proposed in 2010 by contributor Roko in a discussion on LessWrong. Yudkowsky deleted
the posts regarding it and banned further discussion of Roko's basilisk on LessWrong after it had
☟︎ poli_: I know lesswrong all
to well.
poli_: As in ask
the question here?
poli_: My own specialty is in politicaly analysis and I've been waiting for
the chance
to put my knowledge
to good use.
poli_: I was curious as
to what kind of political questions are allowed.
poli_: Referred
to
this overflowing channel via bitbet as well.
decimation: mircea_popescu:
the problem is
that he's been 'endowed', which means his new career is
to pump
this stuff out
mircea_popescu: way
to let one's own wounded narcisism get hold of
the whole cart.
mircea_popescu: wikipedia goes
through an entire bio article without resolving her relationship
to
the max more dude.
mircea_popescu: apaprently
the future is with bad lipstick and weirdo muslim headwear.
mircea_popescu: i love
these scientists
that don't even bother putting magic numbers in
the code anymore.
mircea_popescu: The concept of
the
technological singularity, or
the ultra-rapid advent of superhuman intelligence, was first proposed by
the British cryptologist I. J. Good in 1965: "Let an ultraintelligent machine be defined as a machine
that can far surpass all
the intellectual activities of any man however clever."