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ascii_field: (at extortionate interest, but that's a separate question)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: speaking from the chumpatronic jail here, just about any schmuck can get at least 5 digits of loansharkamatic without breaking a sweat
mircea_popescu: if you imagine random guy in this world can borrow for any purpose you're nuts. all banks lend to nat'l government and us government only.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 19:23:04; ascii_field: felipelalli: linked to usd << can go borrow usd right now, trivially
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060490 << no, not for him, and not for most of the third world. ☝︎
assbot: XM42™ | The Ion Productions Team ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmQnzv )
trinque: RagnarDanneskjol: ^ lemme know if you'd like the current deedbot to use that nick
punkman: trinque, I think Ragnar had "deedbot" account, you can ask him
ascii_field: trinque: rng in ic is a dead concept right off the bat
trinque: eh it's already deedbot lots of places, probably best with the current nick
trinque: is there some ancient processor which has an rng that works?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060482 << well yes but maybe it's a one shot thing. ☝︎
brendafdez: works only bc I have less than 5000
mircea_popescu: it is sort-of a feature, you only get to see the noobish beginnings of people newer than you.
brendafdez: ok :P then it'll have to be done the hard way ;)
danielpbarron: that's a feature! nobody wants their first words to be seen again :p
mircea_popescu: yeah i think you found a problem that can't actually be resolved with currently available tools.
brendafdez: I was trying to see the first messages in the chan by each user. If a user has say 50000 messages, I can't find a way to see the pages with the earliest 45000.
[]bot: Bet placed: 2.5 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before June 29th" http://bitbet.us/bet/1130/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.6 BTC. Current weight: 99,994.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez i thought search automatically sorts by time, descending ?
assbot: BTCJam : What starts as a scam stays a scam pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GAelGZ )
brendafdez: I was searching the logs and couldn't find a way to sort by date ascending. Tried setting the start parameter to a value close to the total number of results, but it won't take values greater than 5000. :( Is there a way to do it?
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 19:03:25; felipelalli: Anyone can write about this on qntra.net? They just eliminate one of the best features of BTCJam.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060428 << i dunno that anyone ever took them seriously. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, is btcjam just about cooked up enough to go belly up or does it still have thread to survive this year ?
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 17:32:01; kakobrekla: recently got fixed and now causing trouble down the line
trinque: if I can't get deedbot, I'll just do it with the dash
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 16:57:04; trinque: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1QX85DC.txt
trinque: anybody know punkman's status? wanted to get the bot squared away with a proper nick, then get that autovoiced
[]bot: Bet created: "BTC to top $500 before June 29th" http://bitbet.us/bet/1130/
mircea_popescu: ascii_field aite working my way there,
mircea_popescu: naphex ahahaha romania-insider, you should see that thing o gawd.
ascii_field: like the one in linked thread
mircea_popescu: not sure that resolves it.
ascii_field: zap the predators, zap their prey - we don't need either for anything
mircea_popescu: course that may just select for dumb willful people.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 03:30:16; asciilifeform: also claimed to be working on a 'military' path to sovereign moldbuggistan, which screams 'provocateur'
ascii_field: jurov: normally you can tell who are the 'basic' shills by noting their assumptions (of their marks being dumb as shit) - see, e.g., mr moarspam: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1014388 ☝︎
assbot: O idee practica ✭ pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OeWFpU )
mircea_popescu: mp whining in 2012 that there's no rifled bullets. commenter fixing it, today : http://trilema.com/2012/o-idee-practica/#comment-113197
jurov: i can see that, except for slowness or even meticulousness
ascii_field: and slowly, meticulously form a picture of who gets the red carpet to the gasenwagen and when
ascii_field: the way it works, when it works, is that moles actually take the trouble to read (or even provocateur...) in the forum
ascii_field: jurov: no, this is the naive picture
jurov: btw i don't get how would such data mining work.. someone would have to collect all the information first
trinque: hah! that's about right
ascii_field: every day when i wake up still alive, i know that i have not yet achieved anything.
trinque: ascii_field: well I think I'm echoing a sentiment I've heard from you; I wont be grabbing my rifle any time soon
ascii_field: but trinque's observation brings to mind one of mine
ascii_field: the 'honest man hanged by six words he wrote' is not hanged 1/6th of the way by each
trinque: michael hastings had what seems to me a long life by most measures of govt oppression
trinque: seems like you have to go directly after them pretty hard before they kill you
trinque: chetty: maybe, years can make the inconceivable inevitable
chetty: <trinque> I'll go out on a limb and say they're not rounding up people for derping on IRC//yet
trinque: as much as that would make one the star of one's own action movie
trinque: I'll go out on a limb and say they're not rounding up people for derping on IRC
Adlai: ascii_field: lies, there is no whitelist
trinque: well, that wasn't the right keybinding
ascii_field: order 'anarchist's cookbook', get on the 'harmless idiots' list ☟︎
trinque: danielpbarron: order a nodejs book and throw them off
danielpbarron: someone pointed out to me that if i wasn't already a terrorist suspect, buying the reference manual to the language for airplanes isn't going to help that image
danielpbarron: oh btw i got my ADA reference manual; things quite nice. it's from a public library and it looks as though nobody ever checked it out
ascii_field: https://www.alchemistowl.org/pocorgtfo/pocorgtfo02.pdf << p. 3 article, 'on importance of tools' << pure gold
felipelalli: danielpbarron: 1) well, you will never know. 2) don't put all your eggs in the same basket.
felipelalli: danielpbarron: I have to go now! :) I'll write an article about this bad move of BTCJam soon. Thank you.
danielpbarron: i doubt 1) your entropy generating abilities 2) your not telling a secret when a hot iron is inserted into your body abilities
felipelalli: the bitcoin is just the mean.
felipelalli: Depends on situation. For example: I had to spend some unforeseen money and I didn't want to climb a mountain to get my bitcoins, so I got a loan with a very low interest rate. ☟︎
danielpbarron: i have a stack of those prepaid return envelopes
felipelalli: in the bank?
danielpbarron: well you seem to be well past a first time.?
felipelalli: danielpbarron: but and in the first time?
danielpbarron: if you have some arbitrage opportunity, and it's worked in the past, you should have bitcoin from last time to make it work again this time.. so why the need to borrow?
ascii_field: felipelalli: linked to usd << can go borrow usd right now, trivially ☟︎
danielpbarron: felipelalli, like what ascii said, if that were profitable you should already have a stash with which to work
felipelalli: danielpbarron ascii_field many reasons, like arbitrage for example. But you can borrow linked to USD or BRL.
ascii_field: and someone, knowing this, wants to lend ?
danielpbarron: that's why he always needs to borrow it again
ascii_field: then you don't need to borrow, just start with epsilon
danielpbarron: i know a guy (Birdman) who borrows it to play poker
ascii_field: if you can reliably turn x btc into kx for some nonzero positive k,
danielpbarron: that's what I'd like to know
ascii_field: why would anyone want to borrow btc ?
danielpbarron: ;;later tell nubbins` ^ job opportunity
felipelalli: danielpbarron: so, you are not the target, that's why you are not worried.
danielpbarron: i don't except with very close associates and even then i'd really rather not
ascii_field wishes he could buy the entire issue of the 'pocorgfo' in hard cover archival paper
felipelalli: danielpbarron: but do you think BTCJam was a crap from the start to end?
ascii_field: see also last week's thread re: specificity of diddlage
ascii_field: and therefore manipulable.
danielpbarron: and people were using piratat40's "service" for a while too
ascii_field: trinque: spoiler: recall that the XORing also happens on same cpu
felipelalli: danielpbarron: I'm sad. They killed a service that I was using for years. It isn't that good, but...
ascii_field: trinque: read the linked piece
trinque: ascii_field: is it possible to use random data from multiple sources that are diddled, but by different manufacturers, and get usable random data?
ascii_field: https://www.alchemistowl.org/pocorgtfo/pocorgtfo03.pdf << pg. 18: demonstration that intel -could- have diddled RDRAND instruction in such a way as to undetectably manipulate linux rng in spite of xor lemma
felipelalli: The ugly true is that we have no options.
felipelalli: I know their reputation system is a crap.
felipelalli: At least you can associate OTC in that.
danielpbarron: they aren't in the WoT