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mircea_popescu: i was just filling in the gaps, dunno wtf he actually used,
mircea_popescu: permethrin is this contact insecticide that is well tolerated by mammals,
asciilifeform: nubbins`: in the lab i worked at, permethrin was used as a substitute for sarin (the building was not rated for the latter, needs airlocks, etc)
nubbins`: is relieving him of his skin before he gets sent to the salt mines an option?
asciilifeform is experiencing almost a kind of synaesthesia. that post -stinks-, just about literally, of american degeneracy. smells kinda like 'mcdonalds'
asciilifeform: we have a tailless one here, and a very ancient skeletal one, both fed
danielpbarron: i got bit by a feral cat and freaked out less than this guy; didn't go to doctor even
mircea_popescu: they made quite the team.
mircea_popescu: actually hanbot used to feed chicken livers to this blind dog that had a helper tripod dog (one limb cut off, prolly in tram accident).
asciilifeform: how does beast with these handicaps stay afloat ?
mircea_popescu: actually i used to know, many years ago, an old, 2/3 tailless , earless, blind tomcat.
danielpbarron: where does he move from that doesn't have cats? how did he figure out how to move??
asciilifeform: presumably they keel over somewhere else, in a designated place
asciilifeform: though i've yet to find a carcass
asciilifeform: the beasts fight one another even without idiot man (i know this well enough from watching the wild cats in own yard)
mircea_popescu: exactly. my objection isn't particularly that the cat got hurt as much as it is the guy didn't.
asciilifeform: as in, there can be very few things more noble than killing them, slowly, and with cameras rolling for posterity.
asciilifeform: but some 'people' really -are- the 'planetary cancer'' imagined by enviro-whiners. as in, the actual core of truth behind the myth.
asciilifeform: i would greatly enjoy putting the author of the post in the very similar situation.
mircea_popescu: "could a rope and an open can of tuna solve this problem ? naaah, best call the plumber!"
mircea_popescu: "gee, i wonder why the poor cat isn't scaling the wall after being sprayer with permethrin and not being fed for a week"
asciilifeform: who brutally murder any tame animal unfortunate enough to be let out for a walk
asciilifeform: aha. we have idiots like this here
mircea_popescu: note that it's not even a wild cat.
asciilifeform if had to choose who to render for fat, the animal or the 'man' from the link, would choose the latter without hesitation
asciilifeform: how even found this.
nubbins`: srs tho, takes it outta ya
jurov: yes, on such meat branch prediction and caching fail all the time
thestringpuller: ^- da pun is strong with you today
nubbins`: thestringpuller have you ever thought of eating a large quantity of muscle meat as running a tough program? 8)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you may appreciate this thought. So I like XC running, so I just like to run to work out. At some point it's like your body is heating up like a GPU trying to run a video game (hence sweat). So I've always thought of exercising as our bodies running "tough programs". lol
assbot: Transition Dreams by Greg Egan "We can't tell you what your own transition dreams will be. The only thing that's certain is ... ( http://bit.ly/1HbTOsz )
nubbins`: skipped 4 consecutive weeks of classes mid-semester, came out w/ an 88 and a letter from the faculty pleading me to change majors
nubbins`: 24yo nubs was not impressed w/ having to take 1000-level english course with 18y/o's
nubbins`: 1000 pages a week at times
Adlai: read it back when i had 4-5 hours of daily reading time in middle school
nubbins`: speaker for the dead and xenocide were the height
Adlai enjoyed it too, but it was just too long
nubbins`: that's sorta the last one i enjoyed
Adlai: right. ender's game's plot, with different words. it doesn't have its own plot, and i need a few decades before i can read this author again, after children of the mind
assbot: A True Church - The Sabbath ... ( http://bit.ly/1HbPrxv )
danielpbarron: http://www.atruechurch.info/sabbath.html Those who totally stop every work of their own righteousness (Psalm 16:2; Romans 4:5, "does not work"), and believe on Him who justifies the ungodly (Romans 4:5), these are those who fulfill the law (Romans 8:4) and keep a perpetual Sabbath (Hebrews 4:3-4, 9-10).
Adlai: you know, the ones that actually have a plot
Adlai just read the first 4. regrets seeing the movie.
nubbins`: i got through about 7 of those books before giving up
Adlai: (which were supposed to be one book, but eventually didn't 'fit in head')
nubbins`: yeah. reminds me of that in some ways
jurov: good that unlike jooz, we have danielpbarron that knows exactly what the letters say
Adlai: either xenocide or children of the mind
nubbins`: which ender's game book was it where they created a race of smart people genetically predisposed to OCD?
Adlai: emphasis on "might", didn't help to point out that the boiler basically works 24/7 and still doesn't keep up
Adlai: what i do know is that one guy took cold showers on the sabbath, because if he opened the hot water tap, it might trigger the thermostat in the base's boiler
nubbins`: gl explaining that to security
jurov: dunno if i could resist to troll them with a bone
asciilifeform: and there isn't really a good effort they could make to demonstrate a desire to avoid those
asciilifeform: jurov: follow the logic. they don't care if there is a sea burial going on underneath, or a shipwreck with skeletons
Adlai only has distant secondhand knowledge of orthodox theology
jurov: i'd ask them, what if there's a cemetery below him in australia?
asciilifeform: 'eruv' (Adlai: correct transliteration if off)
nubbins`: asciilifeform precisely this
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i think they grade themselves 'for effort.' consider the rope
nubbins`: examine the utter failure of logic by this man ☟︎
Adlai: in the case of the army - it would be a terrible failure for the officer to let such a thing happen!
trinque heads home, enjoyed the philosophical bullshit session
bitstein: Yea, I remember when I was on my birthright trip, my friend stayed behind when we visited Mt Hertzl.
nubbins`: "The man wrapped in plastic, whose photograph first appeared on the Redditor site and later on the Gothamist site, apparently did not want to take any chances. By covering himself in plastic, he established a separation between him and impurities."
Adlai actually thought the officer was kidding, the first time this happened
trinque: ultimate trolls, whoever thinks up these rules
asciilifeform: is it considered a score against the cemetary, or the kohen ?
nubbins`: "Kohenim are prohibited from coming into contact with dead bodies, and many rabbis have taken the strict opinion that a Kohen may not ride in a plane if he knows ahead of time that it will fly directly over a Jewish cemetery."
Adlai: lest one accidentally trespass
Adlai: yes. in the idf, when we had guided tours of mt hertzl (big military cemetary), they always asked before entering if there were any of them present
Adlai: there's a sub-race (seriously, they consider themselves a separate tribe-within-the-tribe) who are not allowed to / don't enter cemeteries
asciilifeform: for the whole lot of passengers
asciilifeform: why not bless the floor tiles ?
asciilifeform: but the plastic in the fuselage is not sufficient barrier ?
nubbins`: the airport in tel aviv is surrounded by cemeteries
jurov: i'd fuck myself. we'd only have to resort to reading /dev/random about who goes first. ☟︎
nubbins`: asciilifeform apparently some hasidic jews feel they are not permitted to fly over cemeteries
Adlai: probably to prevent physical contact with female flight attendants ☟︎
asciilifeform: Adlai: what is the logic behind the condom ?
asciilifeform: just as the rest of us do.
asciilifeform: trinque: you're 'dividing by zero' just by thinking about this
trinque: who cares about the clone
trinque: stab the clone and nothing *here* happens
trinque: in the midst of that level of pain no one ever questions where he begins and where he ends
trinque: caused by various head injuries over the years
trinque: times in the past I have had cluster headaches
Adlai: the meaning of 'me' which is consistent in this system is: "the thing which you perceive yourself as communicating with"
nubbins`: except the guys w/ the plastic bags
asciilifeform: even among the devoutly religious
asciilifeform: for some reason you don't meet terribly many folks today who won't ride, e.g., an airplane, for this reason
asciilifeform: re: teleporter: there were actually people who refused to travel on steam locomotives because the soul can't keep up and will get lost ☟︎
asciilifeform: but yet again this sentence is an abuse of word.
asciilifeform: i might care, when it's my turn to argue with my copy about who should be shot
trinque: that I am sitting here having this experience defines "me" sufficiently for me to use it
asciilifeform: again using this word that no longer has a correct meaning in the hypothetical system
trinque: I will still strive to be the one not capped by the 45
trinque: whether they are the same to you doesn't matter at all to me
trinque: asciilifeform: I began criticizing the idea that all of the infinite me's are to be considered as though they are the me driving the keyboard