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mircea_popescu: at least that's what it usually reduces to.
decimation: well, there is the question of 'who pays'
mircea_popescu: decimation FREE MONEY TO NIGGER WHORES!!!?!?!?!?!
mircea_popescu: people go nuts. as if babies are required to come from the stork, and for free, because htey're wrapped up too tightly to consider fucking.
mircea_popescu: decimation other than the genetics of intelligence, the children is another way i get conservatives enraged.
mircea_popescu: what's different is a bunch of ideological spew clouding the issues.
decimation: well, it excludes the quite legitimate work of raising children
mircea_popescu: in your classical "ancient tribe in the caves" about 2/3 of the tribe did something.
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't think this has ever been different.
decimation: almost 59%! thanks obama!
mircea_popescu: i'da made the comment there, but apparently greenspun doesn't know how to comments.
decimation: well, that net catches a good portion of the us when considered in its wide sense
mircea_popescu: you, if your paycheck comes from the governent, YOU ARE NOT A WORKER.
mircea_popescu: people object to slave hard drives being called slave hard drives, in spite of the accuracy
decimation: well, they get paid
mircea_popescu: why exactly are these idiots called "workers" ?
mircea_popescu: "And those workers are different from the ones who decide whether or not to give out a free"
decimation: heh true
mircea_popescu: 1 in 2 households are looking for something to beg and someplace to do it.
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Massachusetts bureaucracy gets 1 in 13 households to come in and beg ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bfh5oL )
decimation: asciilifeform: not to mention you gotta setup a bureacracy so the people can grovel before it for trinkets: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/02/28/massachusetts-bureaucracy-gets-1-in-13-households-to-come-in-and-beg/
asciilifeform: (dropped here for the lulzrecord)
asciilifeform: ly assasisnate foreign leaders to destablilize small countries around you, and run drug running operations to generate even more revenue for more black projects, and tell your people its for their own security. Waterboard and torture your enemies and call them terrorists.'
asciilifeform: ourts and judges to pass laws to forbid everyone around you from killing, lying, enslaving or imprisoning people, and stealing, but make it all legal for you under different names. Congratulations, you have just founded a country,also known as a state! Go to war with other states, to get rid of surplus wealth and attempt to grab more land to tax more people, when you find an opportunity that they are weaker than you. Secret
asciilifeform: apons and back up your operation, because you're making more an more enemies, but that's okay, you have all the high tech weapons. Start passing laws to prohibit others from owning anything more than a rifle or shotgun, while you buy gunships and tanks and jets and cluster bombs. Hirer very intelligent people who are ready to sell out humanity in exchange for trinket amounts of wealth to fatten their own pockets. Setup c
asciilifeform: b: 'Build your own, so you too can become a state. Then build a prison to house it, and start capturing people, accusing them of shit, and holding them for ransom. Print lots of worthless IOUs and start paying for stuff with them, and extorting money from your neighbors to pay you with your own IOUs every year a tax on their land, or you will imprison and guilotine them. Use your growing wealth to stockpile more and more we
asciilifeform: from guillotine thread: a: 'I want it, is it for sale?'
decimation: forward to 2:57ff to see the old dude scold some chick about 'war crimes'
decimation: linked from ascii's youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20 < Wehrmacht soldaten describing their point of view, and pride
decimation: although in this case it was shareware generally
decimation: yes, with the meaning shaded with the implication that the software is unlicensed
decimation: asciilifeform: did you get those little paper catalogs of shareware which you could order on diskettes?
mircea_popescu: generally, any friend of the usg is an enemy of the world.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> idea is that they 'have the choice to surrender to usg' and didn't make it << myeah. they gotta be supported.
decimation has fond memories of downloading warez from tucows back in the day
mircea_popescu: and obviously, the usg doesn't like it. how surprising.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> no if you read the article, the 'startup' is actually a division of tucows, the domainame freeware site << you know twocows i actually like.
decimation: just like the same ones burden the death penalty with layers of bureaucracy and then claim that it's too unwieldy to use
decimation: asciilifeform: my hypothesis re: hidden execution in the US was that those who wanted to end all executions encouraged it so that they could then argue that it doesn't have a 'discouragement' effect on crime
assbot: Topsy (elephant) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOIRip )
decimation: thanks for the recommendation.
asciilifeform: specifically, how the purpose changed
asciilifeform: the books was actually about this
decimation: asciilifeform: note that keeping the execution behind closed doors greatly diminishes its intended effect to encourage the others
nubbins`: i once saw thomas edison electrocute an elephant
decimation: re: electric chair < my understanding is that it was mainly a marketing gimmick for electricity
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 17:39:58; asciilifeform: so from this it follows that the current ceremony (injection with not-quite-poisons in an elaborate pseudo-medical setting) also symbolizes something about modern usa, re: national character.
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 17:36:01; asciilifeform: when usa was a techno-power, electric chair was king
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 17:35:40; asciilifeform: the one common anthropological thread i see here is that most governments insist on some 'national' symbolic meaning in their chosen means of execution. e.g., the french guillotine across all five 'republics'
asciilifeform: just as 'civilized' countries today punish folks behind closed doors
asciilifeform: (must keep two sets of books, can't show publicly how it works)
asciilifeform: because of the fundamental duplicity of totalitarian state
asciilifeform: even while it was still used, was hidden behind closed door for most of the 20th c
asciilifeform: ^ described, among other very interesting things, the decline & fall of the guillotine
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2015 00:39:01; *: asciilifeform has been enjoying 'Seeing Justice Done. The Age of Spectacular Capital Punishment in France.' (Paul Friedland.)
decimation: asciilifeform: I don't get why we don't still use the guillotine
nubbins`: man, i remember tucows from back when i had to buy a book to use the internet
assbot: Guillotine in the basement of German Reichstag - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bf9tCJ )
nubbins`: if i wanna see a card trick, i don't want you to hold the deck face-up
asciilifeform: lol 'giving up' when isp (and credit card co) pipe it to usg in milliseconds when subscriber pays
nubbins`: wonder will the town wait to be sued before giving up subscriber info
decimation: yeah I guess that's the idea, but it seems dubious that usg will tolerate such behavior
asciilifeform: idea is that they 'have the choice to surrender to usg' and didn't make it
decimation: essentially no say in the content of the websites on its roster, Bunton told me. "
assbot: Inside the 'Notorious' Canadian Internet Company Targeted by the US Government | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOFnfA )
decimation: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/inside-the-notorious-canadian-internet-company-targeted-by-the-us-government " As previously mentioned, Tucows landed on the US Trade Representative’s annual list of notorious markets due to the company’s practice of not responding to takedown requests from companies alleging that Tucows registers domains for sites selling illegal goods. This is despite the fact that a domain name registrar has
decimation: apparently tucows is on usg's shitlist because it won't play ball
asciilifeform: (or whatever name it ends up taking)
asciilifeform: verizomcast is doomed to play 'bad cop' to the 'good cop' of usgnet
decimation: " "We want to blow this thing up, and we want disruptive services at disruptive pricing," Robert Wack, Westminster's city council president, told me. "We've got Comcast and its usual suite of services, Verizon DSL, with its patchy service areas, and dish and satellite services. Nobody is happy with any of it, and none of it has the capacity we need to take this city into the future.""
decimation: and they are merely 'operating' the network after westminster, md builds it
decimation: no if you read the article, the 'startup' is actually a division of tucows, the domainame freeware site
asciilifeform: show me a town where anyone freely digs up the roads.
asciilifeform: was about to say.
mircea_popescu: decimation a startup != a town tho neh ?
assbot: A Startup Offering Gigabit Fiber Is Expanding to a Second Comcast-Dominated City | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOEpQt )
decimation: asciilifeform: re: conversation about neighborhood isp: turns out there is a town about an hour away from you that is attempting to provide its own gigabit fiber service: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-startup-offering-gigabit-fiber-is-expanding-to-a-second-comcast-dominated-city
mircea_popescu: just about at the 5ish nm level it takes over iirc
asciilifeform: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/barr.html << for folks who like to play with the numbers
asciilifeform: the short-distance (tunnel) on the other hand is one of the weapons by which 'moore's law' is dying - http://www.iue.tuwien.ac.at/phd/entner/node23.html
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mircea_popescu: how did that line go,
mircea_popescu: but then again in qm, your existence is not so distinct from your energy.
nubbins`: this is all the sort of thing i understand while reading it but don't really copy it over to long-term storage
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yes, something like that. as if you could only be right before or right after the door but not in between.
mircea_popescu: as a rule of thumb, the first occurs over tiny distances, the 2nd is distance-invariant
mircea_popescu: quantum entanglement is the property of two apparently distinct "particles" to share more than they should.
nubbins`: quantum tunneling is when i go outside but skip the door
mircea_popescu: anyway : quantum tunneling is the observed property of quantum "particles" to interact at a distance without ever interacting with whatever's separating their first position from the second.
assbot: Cel mai bun paladin din the world. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOCvj4 )
nubbins`: mircea_popescu just checking to see if anyone was paying attention 8)
asciilifeform: they could easily go there every day, and simply fail to come out
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 23:07:43; nubbins`: unless you're bringing quantum tunneling into it 8)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1061032 << for my peace of mind, what do you think qt is ? ☝︎
assbot: Best Paladin of The World pwning nubs on My Heart Will Go On from Celine Dion (ATHENE #1) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOCdsp )
asciilifeform: decimation: i always mistrusted this explanation. beasts do not need to sense their deaths to turn up expired in some inaccessible place.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know what i'd like to see, a reality show of this guy and athene the best paladin in the world (with his mother)
asciilifeform: but the one featured in the short story 'blit'
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'basilisk' spoken of is not the usual mythological one,
decimation: asciilifeform: re: asciilifeform: presumably they keel over somewhere else, in a designated place < cats are well known for anticipating their deaths and crawling up some inaccessible hole beforehand to die