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mircea_popescu: i don't want that crap. i want a unit the size of washing machine.

mircea_popescu: yes but i mean, on sale as a product.

mircea_popescu: i want an unit which lifts up the bridge, plugs into the car as if it were a wheel, and then simply converts.

asciilifeform: ( at least in the classical 'i want my orders from moscow' type of sw )

mircea_popescu: i suppose at this juncture a moderately interesting item would be to run some for loops and see.

asciilifeform: it is more that i cannot prove to my satisfaction that it does not skew the distribution .

a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 17:39 asciilifeform: i have nothing against ~simple and OBVIOUSLY correct~ optimizations, apeloyee

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733464 << i still don't follow how you figure the approach elides some primes. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 17:27 apeloyee: ......p_n are independent and uniformly distributed, then the probability of tuple of these being chosen is the same (by definition of independence), and because CRT gives a bijection, all outputs are equally likely. did I repeat myself enough?

asciilifeform: i load 1-2 / week, lol

asciilifeform: i'ma have to chew on this.

asciilifeform: but i have no proof of this yet.

asciilifeform: i.e. generator of nth prime in O(1) time. nobody's got one and i don't expect anyone will.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:41 asciilifeform: but as i currently understand, my q reduces to 'find The Formula For Primes' (tm)(r), a millenium-long headache for mathematical folx , to this day unsolved.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:21 apeloyee: I must say that I dont understand how "exponent 131074 reduces to exponent 2 somehow", and what CRT has to do with it

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733356 << for completeness i originally read "largest prime factor", and intuitively thought i see the proof, but meanwhile that also collapsed. ☝︎

asciilifeform: i dun reddit, so cannot say, meme or organization etc

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( i wouldn't put it past'em to 'technical glitch' and turn off bbc for a few min. to get you to up your wattage, say ) << They do it to comcast

asciilifeform: ( i wouldn't put it past'em to 'technical glitch' and turn off bbc for a few min. to get you to up your wattage, say ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: otherwise i'd have started the thread with unsecured satellite relays ( which do currently exist )

asciilifeform: ( the british-style 'can i hear bbc?' nonsense, i will dismiss out of hand, no externals plox )

asciilifeform: sorta how i got to the positional modulator thing -- can you take advantage of the fact of having 2+ dispersed stations.

asciilifeform: personally i'd be satisfied with a 'it costs all the king's horses and all the king's men' item.

apeloyee: and? understand I claimed that it's possible to find you, not that it's easy or cheap

asciilifeform: and i've proposed it here -- relays passing rsa-signed packets on.

asciilifeform: i dun see why this is necessary

asciilifeform: what, i gotta kill every old d00d with a discone on his roof now ?

asciilifeform: otoh if it is in the house next to mine, i have no way of knowing it

asciilifeform: if apeloyee or whoever wants to get past the tank column, mine field, etc. and demolish the receiver -- i'll clap, what.

asciilifeform: i.e. 3-4 ionospheric reflections.

asciilifeform: this is where i started in the gedankenexperiment. from there went 'why not to have the sequence per se be the information carrier'.

asciilifeform: also i suspect that 'avoid gestapo' is a very small superset of the much harder 'physically undetectable'. for example, if you pirate on an already unusably-polluted band, you would probably never Have Problems for so long as you are not distinguishable from the usual polluters ( e.g. led light bulbs and other filth )

asciilifeform: at any rate, i'm not convinced that the problem is solvable, apeloyee may well be right. but i also remain unconvinced that it is unsolvable.

asciilifeform: go and detect the static spark i just generated. from across the room, much less street.

asciilifeform: re 30MHz, i could even be entirely wrong, and unusable , because e.g. <7 has vastly different propagation characteristics, day/night/winter/etc vs 7..15Mhz, and in turn from 15..30

asciilifeform: i dun get how the 2 items can be separate

asciilifeform: then i'ma transmit 100kW, why not

apeloyee: again, I have no data, but I suspect you won't be able to encode much data into it

asciilifeform: so long as i can force the 2 ends of the line, to differ in such a way as to carry information

asciilifeform: what's to stop it from being exactly same spectrally as motor, if that's what i want ?

apeloyee: but "1 transmitter is visible, 2 are not" i find hard to believe

apeloyee: i could understand if having 2,3, 4,... transmitters progressively lowering the detection chance

asciilifeform: ( i have presently nfi if it is true )

a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 18:37 asciilifeform: for same reason you an' i, have 2 eyes

asciilifeform: and yes i am in fact allergic to any algo that i do not immediately understand, because entire objective of ffa is to be correct-via-obviousness.

asciilifeform: i'ma chew on it tho.

apeloyee: well, is CRT nonwell, of cource I can't clain that CRT is obvious. But I think you're just allergic to it

asciilifeform: i can believe

asciilifeform: and i am willing to make an effort and stretch muscles to expand my definition of 'obviously correct', but to a point.

asciilifeform: i have nothing against ~simple and OBVIOUSLY correct~ optimizations, apeloyee ☟︎

asciilifeform: i for one dun particularly care if keygenning takes a few hours.

apeloyee: I still haven't heard how it will get you nailed.

asciilifeform: maybe i'm thick : what's the difference ?

apeloyee: I don't.

asciilifeform: apeloyee: can i persuade you to pseudocodize ?

apeloyee: ......p_n are independent and uniformly distributed, then the probability of tuple of these being chosen is the same (by definition of independence), and because CRT gives a bijection, all outputs are equally likely. did I repeat myself enough? ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:39 asciilifeform: i believe in the arithmetic, yes. but how to show that the two conditions i stated, hold ?

asciilifeform: unrelatedly, scihub seems to finally have broken, i get 11 'captchas' in a row, gave up

asciilifeform: but i have not yet tried this.

asciilifeform: i am probably doomed to make a pci version, because of this, at some point. but so far not urgent itch.

asciilifeform: theoretically one can connect an unlimited # of'em to pc (in practice linux kernel starts behaving oddly when more than 7 serial devices, i found )

asciilifeform: and since i built the rng, i can also be quite certain that there is not such a prime that it will forever avoid generating.

asciilifeform: i can show that no 2 inputs will produce the same prime, trivially

asciilifeform: i want a method, as stated above, where inputs map one-to-one and onto, the primes , up to the register width.

asciilifeform: but as i currently understand, my q reduces to 'find The Formula For Primes' (tm)(r), a millenium-long headache for mathematical folx , to this day unsolved. ☟︎

asciilifeform: if apeloyee knows a proof for this, i'll read

asciilifeform: i believe in the arithmetic, yes. but how to show that the two conditions i stated, hold ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: i.e. a 1:1 pipe from random ints to large primes.

apeloyee: can't. I was sarcastic, because I don't see how CRT construction can amplify, assuming not obviously broken/backdoored RNG. why won't long-range correlations kill mthe "pick random prime" method as well?

asciilifeform: what am i missing

apeloyee: I understood that much

apeloyee: I must say that I dont understand how "exponent 131074 reduces to exponent 2 somehow", and what CRT has to do with it ☟︎

asciilifeform: i did say : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722426 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: heh. i think quantum computing was abandoned because it was discovered it leaked CFC gasses which are bad for the ozone layer

diana_coman: hmm, I suppose I could run a trial test on a batch of generated public exponents with co-prime rather than strict prime requirements, to see what small factors are there but not sure if this will say a lot really in itself; fwiw I don't feel particularly comfortable with the idea of a non-prime public exponent but I don't have mathematical proof for weakness introduced, hence my question

mircea_popescu: oh i see, it's the even friendlier us ?

hanbot: <asciilifeform> in other lulz, https://archive.is/UVcTG >> 'reports of death of yet another Saudi prince' << meanwhile i was reading this morning "riadyh ritz-carlton now detention center for saudi royals", (http://archive.is/p7KPc), but tuned out when "evidence" seemed to consist of "booking websites" not having rooms available. ☟︎

shinohai: I'm just happy to know mircea_popescu isn't building a new kind of stable.

mircea_popescu: i'm sure.

asciilifeform: but i never tried

TomServo: Ah, bit more than I can chew, trying to fashion your crapolade masks into a workable Gentoo laptop.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> definitely acceptable for first month anyway, i'd say. << The second month will be more organized in the course of going along

asciilifeform: i had nfi there were ( what appears to be ) off-the-shelf man-sized vacuum bag

RagnarDanneskjol: ah ok, will send anyone i find that seems competent. Preference is located in BJ or surrounding areas for some reason?

RagnarDanneskjol: MP - I tried to follow the 'girl worker at a desk in Beijing' conversation, but not quite clear on the requirement there - anything I can do to help? I know lots of ppl in BJ and will be there for work next week.

shinohai: I shall have to purchase a pin meter and hire the services of 10-20 women to test this hypothesis .....

mircea_popescu: i can't say i've had the experience. but... sounds like they're trying to overperform to impress ? not a bad trait it itself.

RagnarDanneskjol: I am totally with you on "where is it written" Fuckin A, these Cali chicks always trying to prove something in the sac. I'm having the same conversation all the time - 'where is it written that you have to grind my dick off like a jackhammer before you even start to get wet?

RagnarDanneskjol: I can still voice no prob. thank

mircea_popescu: definitely acceptable for first month anyway, i'd say.

BingoBoingo: Yes, Brazilian DC very hungry for business. The why of their hunger is a portion of the reason I have been getting practice patching drywall these past two weeks.

BingoBoingo: It's still there, but they timeline to make a business there is months out so I am still slutting it up and looking for faster sexier prospects where something might be able to turn on by Thanksgiving

a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 20:04 mircea_popescu: dude, just call. nevermind the "questions" and rest of the crap. spend 1/10 of the time you frittered away already "on" this to call, write up your report, "i, pete d, aspiring to one day lordship, spent 8 hours today cold calling. i managed a total of 76 calls, which would get me fired from the average call center but hey, i'm new. these 76 calls went to so and so, here's the script, here's why i ammended it and when, here's

trinque: didn't say anything other than I don't do anything without a reason

jurov: Lastly, as an appeal to any trace of ocd present, links to individual deeds are relative already, and i don't see why the difference.

jurov: or you say i must make own subdomain to host it?

asciilifeform: i haven't even heard of either party prior.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-05#1733088 << try as i might , i cannot tell who , if anyone, is the ant, and who , if anyone - the anteater ☝︎

shinohai: Not that I have that # of boxes, but overall feel