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mircea_popescu: think of it as, "i translated emacs to lisp"
mircea_popescu: right. perfectly fine as it is, but what is more tempting than to mess with an accomplished writer's words ?
ascii_modem: i read it as is...
mircea_popescu: ""It is demonstrable," said he, "that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end. Observe, for instance, the nose is formed for spectacles, therefore we wear spectacles. The legs are visibly designed for stockings, accordingly we wear stockings. Stones were made to be hewn and to construct castles, therefore My Lord ha
mircea_popescu: i need this as an acronym.
mircea_popescu: 'the devil himself knoweth not the mind of men' as the expression goes.
BingoBoingo: I run a node on 0.8.6 as a charity for the SPV wallet using freeloaders
BingoBoingo: trinque: Questions go so far as to whether the thing even existed/happened
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: Ah I see. Interesting. That is definitely the case as of today. That being said, let's say I create a company that is able to provide hard drive space for cheaper, but I only accepted payment in BTC. If this company existed would your opinion change?
mircea_popescu: as above.
mircea_popescu: so : a) gavin is in no way involved in bitcoin development ; b) gavin's insanities have nothing to do with bitcoin's problems, and in no case are they solutions. as you'd expect of someone who has nothing to do with it in the first place.
bitcoinquestions: as I was trying to ask early - why do you not like the change to increase the block size?
mircea_popescu: as in "Boston Brahmin" ?
BingoBoingo: School administrator was puzzled by the combatants being "A" students without long disciplinary records didn't see fit to issue discipline to either party as the aggressor learned he wasn't fit to aggress.
mircea_popescu: i didn't beat him up, it was kinda incongruous. he had no real quarrel, posed no real threat and besides, as far as teh adults were concerned i was a silver spoony gentleman.
mircea_popescu: decimation> in particular with paragliding, I think that it attracts a certain set of folk who might not consider safety as a top priority << i think paragliding is much like hunting, a sport intended for empty land.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: the best chemistry lab, were it to be maintained as a collection of bottles going "stuff" "Good stuff!" "REagenT" etc 18:23:12 mircea_popescu: would not really work. << This is why other big cause of home explosion is meth "labs"
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well failures of the natural gas system tend to be more... catastrophic... I remember as a child the day half of my hometown was evacuated because ditch diggers broke an incoming pipe at the edge of town.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinquestions in general a machine is secure if its secure. linux is not a magic pill. as danielpbarron suggests, not connecting it to the internet helps a lot, but also makes it more difficult.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform not so foolish as to think about 'homogeneous enforcement environments', knows that there are, e.g., vast deserts in usa where folks set off trucks full of dynamite for amusement, etc. << Sometimes law enforcement attention comes to these folks too.
decimation: in particular with paragliding, I think that it attracts a certain set of folk who might not consider safety as a top priority
ben_vulpes: don't get me wrong, they're fly as hell.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so take up bobsleigh. better for your health. << or bicycles, more actual physical connection of your meat with the dynamic systems in question. airplanes and helicopters worth looking into as well
gabriel_laddel: Why might one want to see the C ast? Let's say that we've got a codebase like the linux kernel, or opengl drivers. You know that somewhere you've got some stuff that talks to the hardware, but grep returns false positives. You instead pull the ast into memory, query across it for the bits your looking for. False positives now indicate something about the language (i.e., that I don't understand it as well as I though
gabriel_laddel: As for PGP, I'm assuming that I'm going to have to spend a decent amount of time with the codebase and reading the spec. Perhaps not.
gabriel_laddel: "As for what language I'll be using on any given project, it will be determined entirely by what is correct for the project."
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Yes. Show me all structures that look like this. Pattern match against structures, rewrite them as so.
asciilifeform: 'clean' as in, i whip out a stick and point to a line, and you can tell my why it's there.
gabriel_laddel: As for what language I'll be using on any given project, it will be determined entirely by what is correct for the project. If I hack something out in CL, but switch it over to C, I'll do that. If it makes sense to release a protopye that is hacked together C+CL+CFFI I'll do that. In any case, both of these come after getting the #b-a distro finished.
asciilifeform: so as to fit on ludicrously small embedded machinery
mircea_popescu: so total noob here, but. the way cffi works is you compile your c stuff as dynamic objects and then put the headers in your lisp program ? or what ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i take this is going to be lisp, as in not scheme, not clojure, cl ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: as for now, I just want to have a clear idea of what the interface is, what the problems are etc.
gabriel_laddel: " As far as I can tell, were one to extrapolate from the given information to a set of concrete requirements we see that NixOS plans to rewrite the build scripts for every version of every project on unix. Again, this is insane. The correct thing to do in this situation is to realize the utter impossibility of the task that has been set forth and re-evaluate one's approach.[1]" << [1] links to the quote previously d
thestringpuller: too many action movies as a child I 'spose
asciilifeform: the 'nixos' thing is about the same kind, and degree, of contribution to culture as the soviet dogs with extra heads sewn on. with the difference that the latter still have the former beat in the purpose they're really fit for - chimeras to scare small children with
mircea_popescu: same exact fucking quote, as in, string.
mircea_popescu: anyway : the quote you took carries a certain meaning in its original context (physics - esp "natural" is a term of art in physics) and is an entirely different thing in the new context (coding). i fully agree with the quote as it is on the source blog
gabriel_laddel: as for puritanism, sure, not directed at me entirely.
mircea_popescu: all the various foregoing rants are not directed at you personally as if you were somehow in ther wrong on some score.
assbot: Notation as a Tool of Thought ... ( http://bit.ly/1C7CRvk )
mircea_popescu: so yes, you can do just fine as a human interacting with humans on broken structure. just as long as it's broken in tolerable places.
gabriel_laddel: as for my id, I'm currently fixing <irritant to livelihood>. First chance I get I'm sitting down and sorting out the whole GPG thing. As it stands I was not particularly happy with the documentation it supplied and wasn't sure which parts I'd have to rewrite. My previous key got destroyed in a failed backup becuase I didn't spend enough time on it the first time around. Also, I don't think gossipd is happening via w
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i actually was kinda disinterested in fucking as a young adolescent, was taught by older girls.
gabriel_laddel: as for the fight in our realm, I'd like to buy 10ks of AMD opterons K8 chips and reverse engineer them. Give designs to China.
gabriel_laddel: Seriously. Where is the tree of all hardware as nodes with drivers as sub nodes? Oh, it doesn't exist? right.
asciilifeform: thing is, braindamaged languages (they know who they are) have no way of specifying -individual routines- as having dependencies
mircea_popescu: "For instance, for ELF executables, we set the RPATH in the executable such that it will find a statically determined set of library dependencies at runtime, rather than using a dynamic mechanism such as the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to look up libraries" holy shit.
mircea_popescu: in MPWorld this is implemented as a sort of api, and languages either talk to it or are stuck doing 100% of the work themselves.
asciilifeform: anyone read "[Date: 1601.] Conversation, as it was by the Social Fireside... << aye.
gabriel_laddel: yeah. also, they don't document anything, or so much as tell you that they're going to move the whole C toolchain.
mircea_popescu: the best chemistry lab, were it to be maintained as a collection of bottles going "stuff" "Good stuff!" "REagenT" etc
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone read "[Date: 1601.] Conversation, as it was by the Social Fireside, in the Time of the Tudors." ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Daca as bea bere la foc continuu, pe o teava cat gatul direct in stomac, fara sa inghit, tot n-as ajunge nicaieri << this is a national sport in usa, didja know ?
asciilifeform: just as there are, afaik, no confirmed reports of 'glue sniffing' prior to the media chumpamatics re: same in usa
decimation: in the us, the chumpatron is often kick-started by a government regulation that is sold as 'efficient' or 'safe'
asciilifeform: the blower has a steel heat exchanger inside, which is either heated with gas fires or chilled with freon loop, as the season goes
asciilifeform: it is typically built as a system of wall ducts/grilles and massive blower in the cellar (in my case, attic)
decimation: well, in the case of the us (as asciilifeform mentioned) natural gas is much cheaper to install and pretty cheap to run
mircea_popescu: and in principle can heat/cool to any arbitrary temperature, as long as your compressor's up to it.
kakobrekla: mitsubishi is the shit as far as these heatpumps go
asciilifeform takes a very limited interest in exotic hvac tech, as he does not own his buildings, and never will
asciilifeform: 'skeleton' systems as described above.
mircea_popescu: "It is no use pretending that Kipling's view of life, as a whole, can be accepted or even forgiven by any civilized person. It is no use claiming, for instance, that when Kipling describes a British soldier beating a 'nigger' with a cleaning rod in order to get money out of him, he is acting merely as a reporter and does not necessarily approve what he describes. There is not the slightest sign anywhere in Kipling's wo
mircea_popescu: in fact argentina is about as close you can get to china without having to fuck azn looking women.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the thing is, argentina-chinese trade relations are about as close as us-canada
mircea_popescu: mebbe i am confused as to how things actually work thar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: kakobrekla: and, as shown here, 'opaque' plastic - isn't necessarily ideally opaque << actually, only metals are opaque properly.
mircea_popescu: as you might imagine, it's more expensive to run than just use the grid.
asciilifeform: just as, say, your fingers are not (get a flashlight and see if didn't remember this)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: and, as shown here, 'opaque' plastic - isn't necessarily ideally opaque
asciilifeform not so foolish as to think about 'homogeneous enforcement environments', knows that there are, e.g., vast deserts in usa where folks set off trucks full of dynamite for amusement, etc.
asciilifeform: so, not so cheap that one could budget it as lunch money ?
ben_vulpes: i grow to suspect that you see all of the ussa as a homogenous enforcement environment.
ben_vulpes: out in the woods, the sop (as i understand it, not having pulled this particular hat trick myself) is to fire a warning shot, shoot the invader, and then call the sherrif.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] like, the node, which is an always on demon, and then various things connecting to it : such as other nodes, on the eth card, or the user, always on the specifically delegated interface, etc ? << working towards this is the root my plaintive cries about what it means to "bitcoinate"
asciilifeform: what political tack would you imagine he'd have taken, if he had not been a lamer (as pictured in your article) ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps the historical picture in my head is incomplete, but i just can't grasp the portrait of orwell as cockless worm.
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2014 17:33:21; asciilifeform: people don't seem to grasp the fact that the situation in 'shall be delivered' is as inevitable as that first street drunk who electrocuted himself in the 1870s (?)
mircea_popescu: charlie going "i am willing to work with planes as long as either the light stays on or x or y"
asciilifeform: ialism. As it is, the aeroplane is primarily a thing for dropping bombs and the radio primarily a thing for whipping up nationalism. Even before the war there was enormously less contact between the peoples of the earth than there had been thirty years earlier, and education was perverted, history rewritten and freedom of thought suppressed to an extent undreamed of in earlier ages. And there is no sign whatever of these te
mircea_popescu: the generalexpectation being, that it will meld into people's lives as they are, making them more so.
mircea_popescu: when the airplane came about, everyone hailed it as a "great civilizing factor"
mircea_popescu: italians, as their states were disintegrating, called this spezzatura
mircea_popescu: your average soviet bureaucrat would avoid committing to paper as much as 1+1=2 , if he could get away with it. and sensibly so, because... you never know.
danielpbarron: speaking of netbsd; that's what i'm researching as a candidate to replace archlinux for the pogo
mircea_popescu: might as well insist you find burglars by inspecting livestock exclusively.
jurov: and i can submit company papers to kraken and we'll see. but it will need really good agreement as to who is liable
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski to quote adlai above, as far as the young actors are concerned, "it'd take half the theatre to make it worth their while" :D
pete_dushenski: as if confidence didn't translate into the real world
mircea_popescu: but, apart from that, your life, live it as you think fit.
asciilifeform: (no, not 'cobol for snob', as i once thought as a kid)
gabriel_laddel: I'll take that as "no".
assbot: Re: Representing code as XML: the Flare Programming Language - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/18WGOfl )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: kickstarter article: ks is straight from the encyclopaedia of chumpatronic circuits, chapter 'make use of chumps directly in the machine’s control system.' as in 'multi-level' crapolade of every variety.
phillipsjk: The source does not have a graphical summary. You can think of it as a "map". Maps are known to be wrong on occasion.
phillipsjk: "As explained by Gavin Andersen on the forum - in order to calculate the ID hash of the Tx that is used in the Merkle Tree, one needs to SHA hash the whole Tx message as defined in the Protocol Specification wiki page twice." http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/2177/how-to-calculate-a-hash-of-a-tx (second answer links to a diagram done by the Armory developer)
mircea_popescu: such as space padding
phillipsjk: "The requirement to have signatures that comply strictly with DER has been enforced as a relay policy by the reference client since v0.8.0, and very few transactions violating it are being added to the chain as of January 2015. In addition, every non-compliant signature can trivially be converted into a compliant one, so there is no loss of functionality by this requirement."
asciilifeform: 'Until recently, OpenSSL's releases would accept various deviations from the DER standard and accept signatures as valid. When this changed in OpenSSL 1.0.0p and 1.0.1k, it made some nodes reject the chain.' - from the phoundation document linked above.