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felipelalli: and I didn't find anything very objective, but I guess you're
trying
to find clues
that points something is weird. But after using
the system, you can understand for example how joke is
they reputation system.
felipelalli: but sometimes is hard
to point objectivally where is
the "bomb" inside
the car. Sometimes we have just some clues. And
they'll know only after explode.
mircea_popescu: it "seems
to be working" because placebo effect, a sugar pill "seems
to be working", and
then six months later guy with
tb is dead of iodine poisoning or w/e.
mircea_popescu: the only similar situation i can imagine is self medication in medicine, where person goes
to pharmacy swallows random pill for random ailment.
mircea_popescu: the fact
that it's not intuitively obvious is not accidental, but part of
the problem.
mircea_popescu: so you know, "it seems
to be working" is a very bad heuristic for stuff like
this.
mircea_popescu: the main problem in commerce is
that
the most dangerous of
these is
the last, and
the most readily identified by
the consumer is
the first.
nubbins`: mostly surrounding
the static-build part of it, fwiw
mircea_popescu: felipelalli
there's a difference between making cars as in, making a
trabant, making cars as in, making a cardboard cut-out of a car, and making cars as in, making ford pintos, which explode killing
their passengers.
nubbins`: mod6
the rest of
the issues seem
to be differences between bsd/osx 'ld' and linux 'ld'
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: just one question mark: do you call fraud what does not have
the "min. quality expected for
that service" or something else?
nubbins`: in order for it
to compile all
the deps,
there's only a couple
trivial changes
to make
felipelalli: mircea_popescu:
thank you for
the answers and
the link. I'll have a look on it before comment again.
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2014 17:49:10; mircea_popescu: "After scoring a major grant awarded by
the Bitcoin Foundation, Coinpunk’s beta version is finally available.
The project, which is being developed by
the veteran startup founder Kyle Drake, intends
to build
the first fully open-source, self-hosted do-it-yourself Bitcoin wallet service
that you can run on your own server."
danielpbarron: Retarded pieces like what Matonis is retweeting of late (shame on you man, seriously) are powerless in
this matter, << links
to
trilema instead of
twitter
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2014 16:43:16; mircea_popescu: since you can by design make zero-delta bets, and since
the fee is 1%... bitbet is partly
the reason why mixer services sort-of died last year, i'd guess.
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2014 02:34:16; mircea_popescu: anyway,
the fact
that bitcoin is not actually
traceable, and all
the sophistry of
taint can at most produce persuasion is one of
the largest points of pressure applied by bitcoin
to human society. it may result in
the "reasonable doubt" standard being
taken out.
mircea_popescu: "The LightEater attack would
take an unskilled attacker such as a maid or border guard
two minutes of physical access
to a
target laptop."
mircea_popescu: "The point is less about how vendors don't fix
the problems, and more how
the vendors' fixes are going un-applied by users, corporations, and governments." << orly. how about
the point is all about how "vendors" create bugs.
mod6: huh, weird,
this one looks like you can read a lot of it...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there's no relation between addresses and identities.
mod6: yeah, i saw
that. usually on-line, you get a certain amount of sections
to preview.
danielpbarron: maybe it's because
that particular section is part of
the pre-page numbers section
mod6: it seems like a decent read. i feel like i my have read
that book like a million-internet years ago.
danielpbarron: apparently you can read
the book on google? idk how
that works
mod6: yeah I read
the
two paragraphs
there "portability" and "power".
mod6: i feel like
the pogo is hugely important for getting a large amount of nodes out
there with 0.5.3.1,
that's really exciting.
danielpbarron: and if you liked
that paragraph i quoted
there, it's from "Absolute OpenBSD" by Michael W. Lucas
mod6: i saw
thay you're getting close
to 300k blocks on pogo,
that's great work. keep it up!
danielpbarron: yeah obviously get it working on whatever most people use
these days
mod6: it's just not
time well spent for me atm since no one even has
that stuff any more. :]
mod6: heck, i'd love
to get an R.I. running on an UltraSPARC II box or something.
mod6: yeah. ok. so supporting stuff like VAX/Amiga/SGI/Sparc etc are going
to
take
time and resources ... maybe someday we get
there, who knows. but first we just wanna get it working for like x86 obsd, and other
Tier1 platforms first.
assbot: Absolute OpenBSD, 2nd Edition: UNIX for
the Practical Paranoid - Michael W. Lucas - Google Boeken ... (
http://bit.ly/1BFRIwk )
mod6: but maybe someday we can get builds/patches created
to build/configure for
these seperate arch's. who knows.
danielpbarron: OpenBSD still supports
this for
the purpose of finding bugs
that would otherwise go unnoticed on modern speedy systems
mod6: but others might have faster/better-luck/more knowledge on
that
than ole mod6
mod6: im probably least clue'd on
the mac side. if I had an environment
to play on for a while, i could probably get it
to work.
mod6: then a makefile.osx would have
to be modified and re-added
to
the package once working.
mod6: well, we'd have
to spend some
time just making sure we have
the correct configure/compile flags set for openssl/bdb/boost and
then create a patch or derivative of auto.sh for ppc-mac
mod6: danielpbarron: hmm. well, first, you'd have
to get
the libs
to build for
the correct arch. does mac still use ppc?
thought it was x86? but either way, you get
the libs built, and
then
there might be some
tweaks
that can be done
to get
the makefile into shape for osx or w/e.
mod6: thanks for
testing nubbins`
mod6: <+nubbins`> so 0.5.3.1 auto.sh will compile everything up
to bitcoind itself << ah! ok. log/breadcrumbs help here : log output with uname -a and other important info is good
to capture for a solid bug report.
nubbins`: occasionally i burn fun-sized blocks of btc just
to make
things a bit more
tangly
mircea_popescu: not
that any of
these are critical, but yes, some hopes are fun
to ruin.
mircea_popescu: hence
the bitbet model, hence
the reusing of addresses etc etc, numerous specific measures
to hinder
the little solace idiots a la power rangers etc are
trying
to give
the "defungibilize bitcoin" party.
Adlai used
that word intentionally
nubbins`: <+Adlai>
there are a bunch of different concepts which are getting wrapped up
together as "taint" so let's stop using
that word, it's about as helpful as "jew"
Adlai: in
the case of 'taint', it's:
treat bitcoin as fungible, but don't make life easier for
those who don't
nubbins`: is
the intersection of
these
two approaches
to STFU and
take whatever happens?
trinque: look at how she was dressed;
the slut was asking for it -> niqab
mircea_popescu: what you're describing is
the exact avenue
to encourage
terrorism.
nubbins`: geez, where'd
the counter-argument go
nubbins`: "but
the leaflet says
this intersection exists, so we must investigate
the crime"
Adlai: one approach
to combating
terrorism is
to refuse
to be
terrorized, on a societal level. another, on an individual level, is not
to "ask for it".
these are not mutually exclusive.
nubbins`: this is like pasting up a leaflet
that says "main street intersects 3rd avenue" and
then arguing
that's
the intersection you lost your wallet, even
though
the map says impossible
mircea_popescu: i guess it's "good for
the economy". heck,
they're
tracking "uniques", for all
the good
that did anyone. we still have
to see
the extra ounce of soap or w/e
that was sold because of it, but hey.
nubbins`: i don't know how simpler
to put it
mircea_popescu: Adlai never interrupt
the enemy while he's making a mistake.
nubbins`: Adlai a random website
taking
two random unlinked
transactions and placing
them side-by-side on a random page does not constitute even
the /scent/ of proof
Adlai: if you know
that an enemy is profiling you, one approach is simply
to evade
the profile
mircea_popescu: obviously whatever random
thug is going
to make randomly unsubstantiated claims and pretend like
they hold water. so what of it ?
nubbins`: show me where
the "winnings" were
transferred
Adlai: electric anthill = rule of
thugs
mircea_popescu: cause i am really not interested in persuading
thugs of anything
through any method other
than clubbing
to death.