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nubbins`: got a new battery and upgraded to 8gb ram a couple months ago
pete_dushenski: but unless it's too slow for your needs, like decimation said, a new hdd or battery is all you'll likely need
nubbins`: one day this will die
pete_dushenski: dollars to donuts a newer one won't last 7 years
nubbins`: planning for the future, yo
pete_dushenski: well then why stop
nubbins`: this is actually the longest i've ever used the same laptop
pete_dushenski: maybe no easier, but that's not the point, the point is what's saner
nubbins`: maybe i'll just try stocking up on a full set of spare parts for this late-2008 macbook
nubbins`: who knows how they were treated
pete_dushenski: glued battery wasn't there 3 years ago
nubbins`: too troo
decimation: macbookpro or toughbook
decimation: well, the 'plastic body' fails almost everything
pete_dushenski: several ways to skin cat, hard to argue that any involve apple
nubbins`: my criteria are (a) not plastic body (b) no money given to MS
trinque: my cellphone gets too close to this machine and the display starts flickering, disk remounts read-only
trinque: pete_dushenski: I'm on a lenovo turd currently, do not recommend
nubbins`: i honestly abhor the idea of a plastic laptop
nubbins`: trinque i researched those
pete_dushenski: which i'll get around to myself at some point
pete_dushenski: or buy old thinkpad
decimation: my recommendation is you purchase a laptop on the 'coreboot' list & flash your own bios
nubbins`: dell usually offers one or two linux laptops
decimation: but I think it comes with winblows
decimation: nubbins`: there's the 'toughbook'
trinque: asciilifeform tells me there are no trustworthy components with which to re-do the garage build, and I don't doubt him
decimation: which explains the need to sell 10k watches, and cars, bespoke helicopters, etc
nubbins`: mildly surprised there's no market for os-free laptops of somewhat rugged construction
trinque: because now they're the IBM
trinque: I admire the way the company got started; someone needs to do *that* again
decimation: the argument being that even if every 'middle class' person in the world purchased a new apple device they would still only be 'holding steady'
pete_dushenski: decimation: new product offerings grow their pie just as well
trinque: decimation: the apple watch gadget etc
decimation: I recently heard an argument that apple's only recourse to 'grow' its revenue stream is to sell super-luxury goods
decimation: as in maker of fancy trinkets for rich folk?
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: not since the state stuck its fingers in
pete_dushenski: that's how you know it's lvmh territory
nubbins`: *i* won't buy it, but since when does the market cater to rational actors? ☟︎
trinque: sure, that was my reaction to the latest win10 signed boot bullshit
pete_dushenski: decimation: they charge ppl for all the privileges!
nubbins`: it's their hw/sw
trinque: nubbins`: remove the ability to interact with anything other than signed cocoa apps
decimation: pete_dushenski: well, they apparently can charge people for the privilege of signing up
pete_dushenski: if apple has a slave harem, they win the award for 'dumbest slave harem'
nubbins`: like, remove Terminal.app from the default install, or remove the ability to run bash?
trinque: nubbins`: heh, I tend to argue the contrary
nubbins`: <+trinque> decimation: a friend of mine always says it's a matter of time before they remove the terminal entirely <<< a friend of mine says obummer is a reptilian
decimation: on the other hand, perhaps apple is just trying to 'enumerate goodness' in its 'forced wot' ☟︎
decimation: right, but apple just wants you to know that it sees what you are doing there...
decimation: nubbins`: that's still the case
nubbins`: double-click turns you down
nubbins`: decimation a couple releases ago (maybe 1-2), the default behaviour for applications downloaded by "unknown developers" requires you to right-click,open
trinque: decimation: pretty far from their roots these days
decimation: yes, the path is obvious
trinque: decimation: a friend of mine always says it's a matter of time before they remove the terminal entirely
decimation: at any rate, it does appear that with each release of osx/xcode, apple subtlety changes what is 'allowed', without much explicit explanation
decimation: trinque: I did attempt that
trinque: you make your own self-signed cert then flip a setting that allows you to run such things
nubbins`: seems kinda weird that some random code won't compile tho.
trinque: whether this much fuckery should be involved aside, it can be done
nubbins`: as you can imagine, ios apps are under almost total lockdown
trinque: you have to set your ios device up as one of your dev devices
nubbins`: ah, haven't ever used xcode for this
trinque: or at least years ago when I did this
nubbins`: is this a mac app or an ios app?
decimation: now, perhaps I was just unaware of the proper method of 'unsigning' someone else's code, but it wasn't an obvious feature if it existed
decimation: Xcode insisted that I required a paid apple developer account before I could consider such a thing, it appears
decimation: the developer in question had already made a deal with apple to publish the app apparently. I couldn't even compile my own version unsigned for my own personal use ☟︎
decimation: asciilifeform: I tried to compile an 'open source' app using the osx devel tool once
nubbins`: jurov good idea, nothing useful tho
nubbins`: everything in prior stmt appears to be present
nubbins`: anyone have a suggestion as to where i start figuring out *which* file/directory it can't find?
nubbins`: just fried up a test piece; wept
asciilifeform: (some newer cars can actually be reflashed through the music player, famously.)
nubbins`: been fermenting on the counter for 6 days
asciilifeform: actually i have no idea if flashable. could very well be. but no vendor upgrade has ever been released, nor is there any obvious means of applying one
nubbins`: ^ homemade kimchi on the menu tonite
asciilifeform: incidentally, buggy+nonflashable is common as dirt. my car, for instance, has a buggy cabin thermostat controller.
nubbins`: those drives, you prolly can't reflash the fw 8)
asciilifeform: the option of not having the bugs is presented as not even thinkable. ☟︎
nubbins`: ostensibly it's there for later when they discover bugs in their code
nubbins`: well, "required". too long ago to remember what it did
trinque: not that it avoids any other diddled components
trinque wonders what relevance running from ramdisks might have to the situation involving hd firmware
asciilifeform: jurov: even something very modest like 16 begins to suffer from buffering problems if actually used in anger
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/autotranslated-spam-for-the-lulz/
ben_vulpes: neat likbez, asciilifeform, thank you
asciilifeform: (ddr3 is the type of dram affected by 'rowhammer')
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 19:54:27; nubbins`: the msrp on the things is like $99.
asciilifeform: not that i know of. unrelated
asciilifeform: the solidest gold toilet available
asciilifeform: jurov: i generally buy boards that require 'buffered ecc'
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1062597 << that's just the tenth of it, but yes, a major reason this doesn't work.
assbot: Autotranslated Spam For The Lulz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DISIqh )
asciilifeform: other than that, i cannot comment on the linked item
asciilifeform: generally only 'server market' boards that -require- ecc, actually work with it.
asciilifeform: jurov: be careful with the ecc thing. many boards will take the dimms, but won't actually -use- ecc
jurov: no, just could not believe there is nothing avail
cazalla: plus the mods for btc-e chat are well known for trolling so who really knows