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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: now i recall, there was a thread where one of you asked the other for a smoke in-channel
felipelalli: I tried the raw first, I'll try the other
mircea_popescu: felipelalli are you using the raw or the html version ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, the thread kicked off at "<ben_vulpes> trinque's doing a major launch this week, i think we'll be lucky to get much of a peep out of him at all"
asciilifeform: i mean, ben_vulpes and trinque live a few blocks .. ?
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:23:07; trinque: "don't be evil" has to be the cheesiest wink at the camera of all time
asciilifeform: ^ that was trinque ?
ben_vulpes: (and no, not really the latter)
ben_vulpes: he has his thing, and i mine.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, no not this year.
asciilifeform has not yet met ben_vulpes in the flesh
ben_vulpes: definitely in comparison to that required to survive in fiatland
asciilifeform: together in the sense of usaschwitz
mircea_popescu: for this reason.
ben_vulpes: taxation you, i trinque pay to la serenissima is rather small
mircea_popescu: o you two work together was it
ben_vulpes: trinque's doing a major launch this week, i think we'll be lucky to get much of a peep out of him at all
mircea_popescu: also, that's a generic term :p
mircea_popescu: ah. the spec doesn't change by the implementation yo. the other way around.
assbot: [undata] Deed system for #bitcoin-assets, updated. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HhxptC )
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: thank you! I'll try dpaste.com
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: so update the blog entry.
ben_vulpes: i'm just pointing out that pastebin's not allowed in these parts.
mircea_popescu: well yes, you're not supposed to do that.
felipelalli: I also tried to paste my key there and I was disconnected due to "flood"
ben_vulpes: well i've no idea how trinque's configured deedbot-, that's not my problem.
felipelalli: why deedbot- is rejecting my key? I sent http://pastebin.com/R0cK3111 and it says: "Bad URL or network outage." I also tried http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=R0cK3111 with the same effect
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes at some point a roman army was defeated, a total of three aquillae (legion header) were lost. the romans spent a century trying to get them back, at one point famously excavating a few square miles o land
asciilifeform: or even a generation ago, rough 'cost of life' in civilized works was a fraction of today's
ben_vulpes: decimation: "schmoes" << that they have anything to invest in the first place is due to the american democracy/communism thing, from there we quickly hit the "one day bitcoin will make us all royals, and when can i lop the peasants heads off again?" checkpoint
asciilifeform: (elementary calculation re: taxation)
asciilifeform: the 'day job' thing is more complicated than looks on the surface. a medieval serf, for instance, served for a much smaller fraction of his waking time than i or ben_vulpes do
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> three vultures lost in the east. << i do not get this reference.
decimation: anything that is 'mass adopted' is nearly by definition some kind of scam
mircea_popescu: three vultures lost in the east.
decimation: ben_vulpes: no, my hypothesis is that the current us style of "just stick the money in the market and get returns" is slated for the guillotine under the new regime. < the problem isn't the passive returns, the problem is that schmoes off the street can invest
mircea_popescu: this has to be resolved, this question.
mircea_popescu: and some guys went to sit. and well... who sits where /
mircea_popescu: if you look at it, the entire history of rome, from kingdom to empire, was basically this : they had a set of benches under some trees somewhere
ben_vulpes: here we are again at the "no people outside the forum" checkpoint.
mircea_popescu: in the fucking bus ?
mircea_popescu: how else are you going to meet people ?
mircea_popescu: exactly like we met. in the forum.
ben_vulpes: sipahi << yeah. that berber book's really good.
mircea_popescu: but with tits.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes sipahi is the turkish term.
ben_vulpes: by their own stolen children.
asciilifeform: decimation: re: footballist and maths << napoleon has at least one theorem to his credit
mircea_popescu: let them rebel over it, and be mowed down periodically.
mircea_popescu: like army. take the children women weep for. or men, in this case.
mircea_popescu: take the other ones.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't specified as 'dregs' but as children who liked to think and weren't especially missed when inducted
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you mean, as in latium, then note octavianus didn't adopt random orphans a la dick tracy.
ben_vulpes: there's a time tested model for this, and it's the noble family.
mircea_popescu: well then why take its dregs ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the outside world is despised << in the book, this was underscored on every page. and the degeneracy depicted also.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just making the point that if you're going for your reagent, make the relative situation obvious : the outside world is despised.
assbot: John Urschel, Ravens Offensive Lineman, Publishes Math Paper : The Two-Way : NPR ... ( http://bit.ly/1HhuZeI )
decimation: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/20/394340722/john-urschel-ravens-offensive-lineman-publishes-math-paper < big black guy who plays linemen for the baltimore ravens just published a mathmatics paper entitled "A Cascadic Multigrid Algorithm for Computing the Fiedler Vector"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1063103 << this. they hire "the best", ye, young schmucks. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: collect the most desirable children from outside : teenaged women with big tits << building harem then, not mathematical monastery, i take it.
mircea_popescu: fuck the outside.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this modesty... fuck that. collect the most desirable children from outside : teenaged women with big tits.
ben_vulpes: who though will start this monastery today?
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:17:58; asciilifeform: and before that, they glommed it into their idiot 'google groups' thing
asciilifeform: and grew them with discipline
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in stephenson's world, they didn't need to. collected unwanted children from outside.
mircea_popescu: took a while, but i suspect more due to slow comms at the time.
mircea_popescu: and before those, knighthoods
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, neal stephenson (in fiction) proposed a pill against 'the moment creation is +EV, all the narcisists flood in' - monasteries
mircea_popescu: as discussed in the pseudoscience bit : unless you folks start quoting it to me, it's just another bit of anglowank, couldn't care less.
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:10:54; asciilifeform: since mircea_popescu is out, i will fill in for him and observe that library of alexandria burning is no loss, when cockroaches evolve and replace man they will rediscover everything.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1063080 << i honestly don't give a shit about those 1000tb. for very similar reasons as ^ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: pretty much that.
ben_vulpes: "proof of existence" << sad story of not being in the wot and ergo not mattering.
mircea_popescu: because he is wealthy. different thing entirely.
felipelalli: as a bitcoin gosthbusters are you guys are, is this https://github.com/maraoz/proofofexistence scam?
asciilifeform: no sane ceo actuallyhas to work, ever << so then!
mircea_popescu: no sane ceo actuallyhas to work, ever.
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hhtzkj )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how long it would take for herr buffett to drain ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: even the CEO will drain his accounts after...10? 20? years without income.
felipelalli: danielpbarron: is that? https://github.com/bitrecruiter/deedBot os something else?
mircea_popescu: he doesn't have to starve at all. he just has to not expect to suport self by singing-songwriting.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how many is N to you?
asciilifeform: but, typically, not 'day job' in the 'schmuck who will starve after N paycheques skipped' sense
cazalla: ben_vulpes, yeah, summed it up better than how i explained it
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 01:59:35; felipelalli: Let me ask one think out of the context: isn't gpg contract useless without some "proof of existence", published in Blockchain, e.g.?
danielpbarron: felipelalli, it's this -> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2015#1063261 ☝︎
ben_vulpes: cazalla, felipelalli: identity is not the important bit. trustworthiness is. no drivers license or electric bill proves trustworthiness.
mircea_popescu: all the schmuckodon in "bitcoin business" comes from the completely irrational expectations of all these schmucks that they can earn a living "being" "ceo"s.
cazalla: felipelalli, also i don't place much faith in how they identify people, a driver's licence, electricity bill.. worth just as much as newly created wot identity with no feedback.. plus the sort of person who needs to borrow $500 is the sort of person who would lift things such as a drivers licence from parents/friends/partners wallet anyway
mircea_popescu: stick with the day job.
asciilifeform: they ALL stem from the mistaken idea that creators should be able to eat << mircea_popescu suggests they should photosynthesize ?
mircea_popescu: the moment creation is +EV, all the narcisists flood in and destroy thinking.
mircea_popescu: they ALL stem from the mistaken idea that creators should be able to eat, and the typiocally american (ie, fucktarded and grossly ignorant) solutions attempted.
mircea_popescu: looky here : ALL the problems of modern academia, from faux psychiatry used to cover up for govt failure to faux "earth sciences" used to cover up for govt failure to the diploma mill etc
asciilifeform: [insert army of the dead scene from 'lord of rings']
mircea_popescu: what is this, the future ?
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:04:58; trinque: asciilifeform: I have long wanted a system where member nodes can all publish wads 'o gpg stuff, peers don't know the contents of the wad, give each-other redundancy