asciilifeform will eat the remaining log after tea; brb
asciilifeform: init the db (via the supplied script) and let reader & bot run in background . then see how behaves.
asciilifeform: the www reader will then also display that chan, can easily test.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i tested the bot by setting chan to e.g. #asciilifeform-test . can do similar, then you can use whatever unregged nick etc (dun fughet to set pw to empty then)
asciilifeform: if debugs are off, thing is pretty quiet in re log. (to avoid filling disk with kilometres of crapola in normal operation)
asciilifeform: if you get something other than a working www & bot, turn on the debug knobs.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun fughet to set up the config knobs (per readme)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932159 << mod_xyz is only really needed with ancient horrors like php, which otherwise sink 1e9 cpu cycles on revving up the interpreter with ~each~ www req. for items that serve themselves up on a port, dun need mod_xyz, can simply fwd port
asciilifeform: trinque do you want a rk btw ? i have some spares here, can send you
asciilifeform: is actually why new rk plant -- will be sold to folx using conventional www stack etc, traditional softs, even trinque's vpnism idea, and the like.
asciilifeform: ( it, despite month+ of pure asm massage -- found to be incurably slow )
asciilifeform: i was orig. planning to attempt a cuntoo for 'm' but then barfed
asciilifeform only ever built embeddeds (e.g. for 'm', for 'pogo', etc) via 'buildroot', never made a gentoo for'em
asciilifeform: trinque: well i'm about to sew together a 15 unit arm64 cluster.
asciilifeform: perhaps brazil will buy the place, for nuke waste dump.
asciilifeform: i doubt ( and esp. after mp barfed ) that anyone would buy live argentines at any price point . it's like trying to sell sewer rats. normally you gotta ~pay~ someone to trap & remove these.
asciilifeform: pretty expensive, too, interestingly -- i priced
asciilifeform: as it is, hot waste from chernobyl is actually moar marketable ( there are actual uses for e.g. co-60 )
asciilifeform: if owner of argentina wants someone to buy it, could start whenever he wants by sending in the wood chippers and mulching the 'samba si, trabajo no' aboriginals 24/7 until leaves the 2% or what who were the reasonable auto mechanics etc .
asciilifeform: waitasec, so, what , BingoBoingo could walk in, buy 0.38, sell for 0.98 immediately, and come out with a wad of phree green ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: picture if you had a herd of worm-ridden cows that produced 0 milk, and meat that no one would eat even in gulag. how to make any money from them ? one way is to keep feeding'em and 'financialize' them, borrow against'em from idiots, 'leverage', etc
asciilifeform: they almost certainly have an internal bezzle that considers the sank moneys as 'asset' of some sort.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not argentine paper, lol. chinese paper.
asciilifeform: mp had a likbez where used example of recent pyramid 'groupon', where similar.
asciilifeform: ( and then idjits noticing 'someone paid for this! it must be worth sumthing' )
asciilifeform: 'worth' strictly on acct of having money flushed into it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my suspicion is that it (like in fact usa) is a 'paper resource'
asciilifeform: dun keep the latter from printing moneys to hand to the former
asciilifeform: not required hypothesis -- lafondistani monkey also shoots at usg bureaucrat if happens to get in range
asciilifeform: they already went through... 2 ? 3 ? 'default' 'refinance' 'rinse & repeat' cycles ?
asciilifeform: argentina aint even peculiar in this respect, exactly same q can be asked re usa & the rest of reich
asciilifeform: so will go unpunctured until reaches whatever physical limit exists for it.
asciilifeform: ( or, alternative rewrite of same equation, that the resourced to clean up the gangrenous pus from puncturing the bezzle, aint available )
asciilifeform: i.e. somehow is worth to'em to continue pretense that owning it is worth sumthing.
asciilifeform: i suspect (based solely on 'rectal oracle') that argentina to chinese plays same role as 'junk mortgage' house plays to usg ministry of handout-payola .
asciilifeform: their 'wait for his corpse to float by'(tm) school of thought, is more impenetrable imho than their hieroglyphs.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the chinese can show up with the slave galleons and start loadin' whenever they feel like. ( and it is a deep enigma, far above asciilifeform's paygrade, to explain wtf they're waiting for )
asciilifeform: atm i have a distinct unpleasant feeling that the ratchet presently does not ratchet very well.
asciilifeform: 1 that knows how to pg, socketize, etc.
asciilifeform: imho instead of rewriting logger for 11th time out of matchsticks and hot glue, would be better to make a proper scripting lang...
asciilifeform: thinking about it, i'm not terribly surprised that centos 6 dun suck down a working set of shitlibs: loox like it was released in jul 2011 .
asciilifeform: ( and it'd in turn have to use pg's c ffi, afaik there's no other usable glue for it at all )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you'd need to bake pg glue for ada, there aint any
asciilifeform: well if you feel like sweating out 3 kilometres of malloc() and realloc()'s and errno()'s -- who am i to say
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma jump with a parachute made of garbage bags before writing www-facing proggy in c, but maybe that's just me..
asciilifeform: ( and that's a box already, years ago, set up for clism... )
asciilifeform: even when i was sewing 'pehbot' , out of ben & trinque's cl logbot, found that it took substantial effort to get the req'd cl libs onto the box
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i vaguely suspect that this is the thing that discouraged past folx who made loggers, from genesising. 'dafuq is the point, likely no one can even replicate this'
asciilifeform: gentoo has , in any given instance, fuckknowswhat, BUT at least reliably pulls down the particular necessary strand of the spittoon, typically
