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snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:37:33 spyked: mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs, as long as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:58:21 mp_en_viaje: this is utterly fucking false, of course. the telegraph doesn't get in a month the daily readership of trilema. but i think the ~pervasiveness~ of the antiquated, and mistaken, worldview may rub off on people.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:06:11 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, speaking of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926225 : hanbot is taking teenaged / twentysomething females meeting the pizdi bill ; i presume asciilifeform is taking highly intelligent, shy & introverted males age-irrespective, math grad student prototype while diana_coman is taking inquisitive teenagers age irrespective and BingoBoingo latam... fema
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 18:06:40 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926916 << more importantly seems poor fit ; ada's strengths not so valuable for logger either.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is difficult, tho perhaps not impossible, to picture someone who never heard of.. satellite
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 13:08:11 asciilifeform: btw re ddos -- mircea_popescu i think yer site also is being dos'd
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, 1 of the more recent idjit fads in pnojeism etc is just this, 'augmented reality', where user is to try an' look at e.g. shops, roads, through peephole of pnoje, to see imaginary 'signs' imposed on the picture
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: !!key returns one for the fellow
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had this vintage piece, re 'technology vs magic' . where the former is something you can meaningfully take apart and repair, making new piece with lathe if you must; whereas the latter... can only pray
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 18:58:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, did the fg / kernel thing ever make sense to you ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the orig. pythonistic backend of phuctor, btw
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:02:10 asciilifeform: diana_coman: principal weakness of ada in re this problem set (at least the ada 'specified' by asciilifeform) is stringism handling
asciilifeform: btw re ddos -- mircea_popescu i think yer site also is being dos'd
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 08:34:09 phf: there's no need to znc, the entire archive of logs is available here: http://btcbase.org/log-raw/ with 2016-03.txt being the last kako file. the only outlier is tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt which is the dump mircea_popescu gave me of the prehistoric logs, which i have a custom reader for.
asciilifeform: em. that way could fill it up with recents (e.g. diana_coman's v sigs; asciilifeform's last 'm' patch/sig) w/out hassling phf
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:39:17 spyked: ah. yeah, not sure there's such a thing. as asciilifeform pointed out, cl seems to handle string'isms better... and as mircea_popescu pointed out, cl doing tcpisms is not much different from python
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:20:29 mircea_popescu: what can you do, alf just not as good at computing as phf :D
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:19:59 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i noticed it too, takes a coupla secs for a longer page.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:13:06 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926690 << i suspect there may be fundamental reasons for which there simply can't be such a thing as "a tmsr lang"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:50:29 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926684 << definitely ; hand cranked, too -- hit mp_en_viaje's last ip when i logged on this one. well, coupla minutes later, anyway.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:01:43 mp_en_viaje: 2) i never made money, i always made power. the money was coincidental. i never made all the money there was to make or could. nor did i ever give much of a shit, i'm utterly not constructive, a world of nothing but mp will burn down.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926667 << 'Мы на горе всем буржуям Мировой пожар раздуем!'(tm)(r)(a. blok) . sometimes exactly what is needed, is flamethrower. can't speak for others, but this is what asciilifeform orig found appealing about mircea_popescu . there's no shortage of what needs burnin'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:59:56 mp_en_viaje: 1) i am an utterly TERRIBLE font of advice re business. i made oddles of money in SUCH improbable, unlikely venues and circumstances -- admittedly, regularly, multiply, repeadedly, but SO FUCKING UNLIKELY -- i dare not presume what works for me works in any meaningful sense.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926651 << i wish trinque and ben_vulpes to have moar luck than i, with this scheme ( asciilifeform went ~twice~, both times lost shirt. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: whole story of how asciilifeform ended up with peh , if you recall, at one pt asciilifeform wanted to bake a battery-powered 'gpg replacement'. then went and saw what gpg actually consisted of, and found that not only koch liquishit, but broken on ~algo~ level
asciilifeform: diana_coman: peh-on-batteries is defo part of the planned sequence. (last ch! in fact.)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: one painful way in which ic fab differs from softwarisms is that failure is ~very~ expensive. buggy proggy you can throw away, you lost a day or however long it took to write. buggy ic is a coupla 100k (usabux) in the hole.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: depending on meaning of 'peh iron', could be quite inexpensive ( e.g. to plant it on commonplace battery-powered item, e.g. pic32mz, is entirely possib. ). but possibly this is not what diana_coman was thinking of, but instead the full orchestra where e.g. 4096b multiplier for fast rsa ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:48:05 mp_en_viaje: kinda why he wanted mips : could bake mips-peh-asic on the cheap atm.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:35:10 mp_en_viaje: and if you care, i suspect the quietness of your blog is what's giving people creeps.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:26:35 mp_en_viaje: you know alf, !q seen is just http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=f%3Aben_vulpes&chan=trilema
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:23:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926527 << also jhvh1 and a111 please. and i guess candilust & tb0t eventually, though not yet. oh and "nsabot" is actually "snsabot" for some reason, i guess let's stick to it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:23:02 diana_coman: I wish though I could actually access your blog from machine-other-than-toilet
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:21:27 mp_en_viaje: (idea is, you !!v a buncha times and safely decrypt, then store the otps use as needed. this was discussed years ago, it's good cuz it don't expose the keys on bot's iron)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:09:22 mp_en_viaje: !qsrc
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:06:11 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, speaking of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926225 : hanbot is taking teenaged / twentysomething females meeting the pizdi bill ; i presume asciilifeform is taking highly intelligent, shy & introverted males age-irrespective, math grad student prototype while diana_coman is taking inquisitive teenagers age irrespective and BingoBoingo latam... fema
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926567 << in practice asciilifeform will work with anyone who has hands growing from the right organ; but the folx mircea_popescu described are more likely to end up in #a, i suspect indeed
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:32:19 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926566 << "After pressing you will need to run npm install from the project directory in order to pull down just under 100mb of depshits in order for this to work." top keks. left you a comment, too.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:23:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926527 << also jhvh1 and a111 please. and i guess candilust & tb0t eventually, though not yet. oh and "nsabot" is actually "snsabot" for some reason, i guess let's stick to it.
phf: there's no need to znc, the entire archive of logs is available here: http://btcbase.org/log-raw/ with 2016-03.txt being the last kako file. the only outlier is tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt which is the dump mircea_popescu gave me of the prehistoric logs, which i have a custom reader for.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:00:01 asciilifeform: re mircea_popescu's postmortem -- perhaps phf still in bed half-dead, but wtf was errybody else's excuse.
spyked: mircea_popescu, it happens that I have a blogpost in the works just on that :D
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:33:06 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in inspirational quotes, "Due to financial problems the filming of Eraserhead was haphazard, regularly stopping and starting again."
spyked: mircea_popescu, purely from the user's point of view, it works reliably as far as I can see. and two days ago I wrote a simple mock "comment eater" for thetarpit and was reasonably productive. I haven't found any major flaws yet, so I'll continue working through the code.
spyked: ah. yeah, not sure there's such a thing. as asciilifeform pointed out, cl seems to handle string'isms better... and as mircea_popescu pointed out, cl doing tcpisms is not much different from python
spyked: mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs, as long as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i noticed it too, takes a coupla secs for a longer page.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, lobbes or billymg i guess -- if either of you feel like futzing with it, having a logger bot that spits out days formatted for mp-wp into MPWP_posts table formatted into a category so one can just plug that into their blog will prolly be fantastic.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926681 << simple case of http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-a-final-thought-on-chos-mental-illness-adnotated/#footnote_0_85643
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:16:10 mp_en_viaje: also spyked, you never said anything re http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926226 ; is #spyked something you're serious about or not just yet ? i don't mean to make that call for you by sheer accident. anyone else ? Mocky ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:06:11 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, speaking of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926225 : hanbot is taking teenaged / twentysomething females meeting the pizdi bill ; i presume asciilifeform is taking highly intelligent, shy & introverted males age-irrespective, math grad student prototype while diana_coman is taking inquisitive teenagers age irrespective and BingoBoingo latam... fema
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:26:19 mircea_popescu: you know i suspect i'm being ddosed ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926684 << definitely ; hand cranked, too -- hit mp_en_viaje's last ip when i logged on this one. well, coupla minutes later, anyway.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:54:51 mircea_popescu: freenode wants 1s delay between msgs, and bot seems to try and do that but maybe add a 50ms buffer on top or somethign ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:59:01 diana_coman: and ftr I have no idea why did the other bots go for lisp anyway, did I miss somewhere the rationale for it?
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 1 hour and 1 minute ago: <mp_en_viaje> remember you wanted to !!rate -10 princessnell http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924146
trinque: mp_en_viaje: if you were just cresting 7 fig in 2019 what would you throw yourself into?
trinque: behold mp_en_viaje, I have brought you a particular arrangement of dorkly turds.
trinque: diana_coman: saw on a recent post on a blog that you supposed some decay re: the deedbot operator.
mp_en_viaje: you know alf, !q seen is just http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=f%3Aben_vulpes&chan=trilema
snsabot: Logged on 2019-03-06 22:42:48 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in theory the logs are endlessly educational! in practice, learning takes practice.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: yes
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, which blog is that ? alf's ?
snsabot: diana_coman: this command is not yet implemented.
diana_coman: !q seen ben_vulpes
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 07:35 mp_en_viaje: in other "optionality/failure" lulz, i'm re-reading http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-anjie-well-actually-let-me-do-anjie-while-you-watch/ because i linked it recently because i used a subpoint from it (the thing about STD gender disparity).
mp_en_viaje: !Qlater tell mircea_popescu remember you wanted to !!rate -10 princessnell http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924146 ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, iirc ben_vulpes bot as well
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 21:16:41 lobbes: http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-goes-dark/#comment-130823 << Seeing as the order was given to strike scriba from the list, I have also removed it from the TMSR bot directory (which means the command prefix "!$" is available again): http://lobbesblog.com/static/tmsr_bot_directory.html
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 22:11:01 asciilifeform: ^ diana_coman et al ^
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:01:01 mircea_popescu: ^ anyone else actively maintaining a castle i forgot in the list ?
snsabot: mp_en_viaje: my source code can be seen at: http://not.yet
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:00:50 mircea_popescu: /msg ChanServ SET #trilema ENTRYMSG To speak here you must be voiced by one of the lords. Talk to asciilifeform , BingoBoingo , diana_coman , hanbot , trinque
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, speaking of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926225 : hanbot is taking teenaged / twentysomething females meeting the pizdi bill ; i presume asciilifeform is taking highly intelligent, shy & introverted males age-irrespective, math grad student prototype while diana_coman is taking inquisitive teenagers age irrespective and BingoBoingo latam... females ?
asciilifeform: ^ diana_coman et al ^
lobbes: http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-goes-dark/#comment-130823 << Seeing as the order was given to strike scriba from the list, I have also removed it from the TMSR bot directory (which means the command prefix "!$" is available again): http://lobbesblog.com/static/tmsr_bot_directory.html
lobbes: it would be a patch off of the command_router_python, however
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've been breaking my head against it since we built the thing in '16
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:08:58 diana_coman: ftr and use of noobs, channel logs are at http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 18:41:44 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926483
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 18:41:20 mircea_popescu: lesee here
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: want this in next rev ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can easily multiline
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:54:51 mircea_popescu: freenode wants 1s delay between msgs, and bot seems to try and do that but maybe add a 50ms buffer on top or somethign ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926462 << in snsabot, it's 0.1s right nao (t_delay knob in config )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:53:34 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926442 << seems pretty snappy to me, yeah.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:59:01 diana_coman: and ftr I have no idea why did the other bots go for lisp anyway, did I miss somewhere the rationale for it?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:57:14 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i use python as 'less carcinogenic' perl
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:54:53 mircea_popescu: spyked, feedbot choked on having to send me too many rss lines lol. can it come back ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 1 reason to use cl, is that ~50x faster, vs pythonisms. and can use actual machine threads.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: principal weakness of ada in re this problem set (at least the ada 'specified' by asciilifeform) is stringism handling
asciilifeform: diana_coman: rationale is that each bot maker used the lang that was most fresh in head.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: possibly CL, after spyked genesis's his cleaned up hunchen
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i use python as 'less carcinogenic' perl
asciilifeform: 'join_t = 20' atm.
asciilifeform: unlike earlier ben_vulpes irc proggy, mine does not 'wait' for fleanode-specific warmup message (deliberate, i wanted to be able to stand it up behind e.g. znc , if desired)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as you can tell from last coupla comments on your www, even there i missed initially a spot of retardation (fleanode lets you auth, but if you join ~immediately~ then won't be authed for purpose of +r chans. this is documented nowhere.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ^ is good example, paginator not in there yet
snsabot: diana_coman: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime