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mircea_popescu: anyway, gavin showed up pretty quick o nthe original lists.
to no one's suprirse, nsa does read
the stuff, as amply documented.
mircea_popescu: which will be buried
too, but... still. you don't kill
ticks by breaking
the bellies.
mircea_popescu: once
they didn't get away with simply stealing
that,
they made coindesk.
mircea_popescu: fake foundation's just a pressed shitbullet,
they made it, getting rid of it won't get rid of
the problem.
ascii_field: having contradictory data, assumed
the worst.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i formed
this impression because i do not know
the actual
truth of
the extent of collaboration between gavin et al and satoshi pre-phoundation
mircea_popescu: you for some reason seem
to
think scam foundation and bitcoin are cogenerational.
this is about as
true as saying you and your mom were born
the same week
ascii_field: 'wouldn't want
to link
the coins you got from bin laden
to
the ones you got from george bush, when you go spend'em'
BingoBoingo: Bitcoind (and a number of
the other 'wallets') grind balances
to dust over
time.
☟︎ ascii_field: likewise most of
the folks here have read enough of it
to see how
this might be
ascii_field believes when mircea_popescu says
that it -will- explode if used as printed on
the crate
mircea_popescu: alf
trying
to scam me in argument! "oh, bitcoind works. i
think so because i don't use it because it doesn't"
ascii_field: i have
this working for a [censored application] but it uses machine (outside of bitcoind) generated
tx
mircea_popescu: or, closer
to what you want, "then send it all
to one address". see with own eyes.
mircea_popescu: this is
the golden standard for
testing
txn generators.
mircea_popescu: (split it
to
three addresses,
then feed one by
two for a while)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field anyway, if you're curious, do a braid on a bitcoin
then see what happens.
mircea_popescu: (honestly i've not really looked what
they've been doing with it since 7ish)
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ascii_field not only
that.
the
txn making is dust-agnostic. instead of optimizing
to not create
too small chunks, it just does whatever. << aggressively whatever. semi random selection of outputs, iirc.
ascii_field: i mean
to say,
they are actually obvious
to anyone who stayed awake in junior 'algorithms'
ascii_field: the most frustrating part is
that
the correct solutions are so obvious.
mircea_popescu: the hard problems of bitcoin are still untouched since six yyears ago when satoshi saw
them and ran screaming.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile
the fucktards are busy "innovating" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field not only
that.
the
txn making is dust-agnostic. instead of optimizing
to not create
too small chunks, it just does whatever.
mircea_popescu: just,
the owners still
think
they own
the dust
they can't actually send anywhere.
ascii_field: if so, it is on account of
the idiocy where
the client has no idea how
to 'defragment'
mircea_popescu: i would guess more bitcoin has been loist
to nanodusting
than
to outright laptop-in-garbage dump incidents
ascii_field: who
the hell has wallet full of nanodust also
mircea_popescu: but once
the average per address is under 0.0001... just you see quadratics
then
mircea_popescu: and people fail
to
think how important
this is, because atm relatively few addresses (if you divide
total btc
to
total addresses you get a .x ish average)
mircea_popescu: rather
than
this sort of stuff. it's about 100x easier, given
the sad state of bitcoind
mircea_popescu: anyway,
there's a reason wallet
theft consisted of stealing
the (plaintext) wallet file
mircea_popescu: if you imagine
this "sum of unspent coin" symbol is defined...
ascii_field: that has [sum of his unspent coin - 0.1 fee] value, and is
to addr A (constant) instead of wherever he asked for
ascii_field: creates a legit
tx using
the luser's own client
mircea_popescu: and your "poc"
that "sends whole wallet" is going
to run into some fucking lulzy problems once it gets implemented,
ascii_field: notice how much good
the wallet crypto does him.
ascii_field: the first outgoing
tx sent by
the luser after it goes
to addr A
ben_vulpes: i've always assumed
that if someone got access
to
the machine while hot,
the coins were gone regardless.
mircea_popescu: if wallet is encrypted in useralnd,
then it's read by gpg
mircea_popescu: look, you're spewing nonsense.
think in simple
terms : if wallet is encrypted by program using it,
then it can be read by program using it, and kernel.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes don't forget
to encrypt your privkey ring with gpg
too
ben_vulpes: stop bitcoind, move wallet back in, restart, sync wallet
txns periodically.
ben_vulpes: encrypt wallet with gpg, move
to safe location on disk, run without hot wallet.
ben_vulpes: i don't see why plaintext is so bad, i mean
to say.
mircea_popescu: (and i'm not entirely sure
that encryption's worth jack shit, by
the way, if someone feels like reading it)
ascii_field: (i like how it occurred
to no one
to ask why 1mb
tx)
mircea_popescu: (mp fondly remembers how he's one of
the... one guy
that hit
the power rangers over
the head until
they finally put encryption into wallets. which, prior
to mid 2012, were plaintext)
ascii_field: fastest way for mircea_popescu
to do
this is, unfortunately but probably,
to wait for my version.
mircea_popescu: it's a
total fucking pain when stuff like, payout of
the bfl bitbet happens
ben_vulpes: that's deeeeeeep in
the
transaction creation code iirc.
mircea_popescu: i was nonplussed
that i can't make blocksized
txn in 2012, i still am nonplussed.
ben_vulpes: "this one neat
trick
to speed up blockchain sync
time!"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i was
talking more in
terms of how it's supposed
to go. i'm aware
the current pos is a pos.
mircea_popescu waits patiently for
the vc funded, world changing "start-up" predicated on having read
the above lines in
the log.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: measure
the
txn bytes/minute you receive from
them << won't work for 0.5.3 as presently exists. bastard blocks -get
transmitted- before rejected
mircea_popescu: problem solves itself. whether
they duplicate or not is a byproduct : competition, economical.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
the only reasonable way
to go about it is, pretend
the other nodes are your employees. measure
the
txn bytes/minute you receive from
them, give points.
ben_vulpes: perhaps
to reduce bw waste, randomly ask for n-plicate copies of blocks from other nodes?
ascii_field: i'll sum it up here. 1) sane node -always, without exception- connects
to as many wot nodes as are up 2)
then possibly connects
to others from cache
brendafdez: re: Businesscards. I found a QR code with a BTC address, and now, also
the GPG fingerprint, provide a good excuse
to hand it out without sounding like you're forcing
them. "Where do I send
the btc?" --"Here!" (:
mircea_popescu: ascii_field and
the "introduce scoring for peers, shitlist least performing for x interval" idea from earlier, same
thread.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 06:45:26; mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> something
tells me
that block downloading and peer selection is an important
thing
to look at in
the next few arbitrary
time units. <<
that something is athena riding a flaming shield.
mircea_popescu: " So let's
take a closer look at
the program - it's a .NET 2.0 executable and can be completely decompiled with dotPeek into a set of Visual Studio solutions."
mircea_popescu: While investigating
this rather innocuous looking program I discovered
that it accepts commands by listening for HTTP requests on localhost:8884 and
that
the security restrictions Dell put in place are easily bypassed, meaning an attacker could
trigger
the program
to download and install any arbitrary executable from a remote location with no user interaction at all.
ascii_field: 'While investigating
this rather innocuous looking program I discovered
that it accepts commands by listening for HTTP requests on localhost:8884 and
that
the security restrictions Dell put in place are easily bypassed, meaning an attacker could
trigger
the program
to download and install any arbitrary executable from a remote location with no user interaction at all.'
mircea_popescu: she's gonna grow up
to believe socialism is best because artists.
mircea_popescu: louis c k is givving
the snotty brat way
too much control over her environment.
mircea_popescu: that also. but i just mean know, not necessarily act,
to give
them a chance.
chetty: if
the da's knew anything about scams
the entire rest of
the gubermint would be in jail