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asciilifeform: was curious re why 'alt'
asciilifeform: yea as far as naked eye can tell, same thing
asciilifeform: douchebag: can you shed light on popularity of 'discord' item ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: maekssense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, what would the other 2 holes of the 2x2 matrix look like , and has anyone filled'em ?
asciilifeform: front camera is usually shit
asciilifeform: not the tits, the failure to use a mirror to write the magicstring
asciilifeform: bahahaha this is first of this kind iirc
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc ben_vulpes posted a cost postmortem ( recall tho that he 'won' the customs lottery, cost double )
asciilifeform: trinque: gpggram at your convenience the mobo type, so i go with the right cabling
asciilifeform: and magicwand for fg ( see thread )
asciilifeform: oh btw for anyone not tuned in #p , an ipkvm is also going
asciilifeform: i was gonna fill the slot with pcengines, arm boxen, etc if no one wants to fill with adult box.
asciilifeform: *that
asciilifeform: usd, thaf is
asciilifeform: not max weight, theoretically copa will eat 2 100pounders, but at some cost ( 200 'overweight' each, plus 150 'extra' for the 2nd )
asciilifeform: ( my turd had 'hello world!' in it )
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/vPmsi/?raw=true << what your gdb output will look like.
asciilifeform wrote this lesson a long time ago
asciilifeform: anyway ave1 et al plox to try an' see.
asciilifeform: err, demo.gdb
asciilifeform: ( supposing you have a working gdb, apparently there exist boxes without gdb... )
asciilifeform: 'make debug' , given that 'turd.bin' input file exists, will print all machine instructions executed by the program.
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tqygB/?raw=true << demo.dbg
asciilifeform: oh i forgot sumthing important :
asciilifeform: 'make dis' will produce an objdump
asciilifeform: it is well-commented, imho self-explanatory.
asciilifeform: ^ all readers invited to try the demo ^
asciilifeform: c
asciilifeform: the thing with the page table init et
asciilifeform: ( naked x86-64 kernel, iirc i already posted here a coupla yrs ago )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: moar of a 'libc' then kernel
asciilifeform: on my machine this builds a 1935 byte (unstripped) elf, or 1080 byte stripped
asciilifeform: or with anyffing else
asciilifeform: observe! in the makefile, that there is NO linkage with libc
asciilifeform: commented out in the end is 100% of what you need for a heaptron : the sbrk mechanism mentioned by phf
asciilifeform: ave1: illustrated is the use of stack frame to get cmdline args; and the use of raw SYSCALL to , e.g., get file size, open it, mmap over it, then dump its contents to stdout, then close, quit ☟︎
asciilifeform: ave1: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/F0CTl/?raw=true << demo.asm ; http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7Q0AV/?raw=true << Makefile ☟︎
asciilifeform: ave1 i have for you an example, standby:
asciilifeform: can read it like you read anyffing else in yer addr space
asciilifeform: argc, argv, environment, PATH, etc is all mapped into process's address space
asciilifeform: ( in re mini-init...)
asciilifeform: aaha, just like on embedded chips.
asciilifeform: it is pointedly untrue that 'stuck with libc on c machine' . can implement all the sane basic functionality using SYSCALL ( the kernel api that's at the bottom of every libc ) and nowhere is it written that you have to be retarded and e.g. pointer-arithmetize or heapize while doing so.
asciilifeform: RunMoarWinblowz(tm)
asciilifeform: ty!
asciilifeform: looks like 7.1 -- got shitgnomated, lost mysql support
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , what's the last ver of php that worx with mp's wp ?
asciilifeform: *lose
asciilifeform: if it's the i-can-afford-to-loose type of bet, nuffin wrong with it
asciilifeform: that's not quite same as being a tree tho. not entirely.
asciilifeform: ( problem is what tends to happen in the heads of people who buy in. as further discussed in old thread on ben_vulpes's www, http://cascadianhacker.com/perceived-vs-actual-barriers-to-homeownership-for-young-adults/comment-page-1#comment-174 )
asciilifeform: it is almost impossible to not seem to 'come out green' on paper when buying into usa real estate racket. asciilifeform for example pays ~2x for his hut than mortgage for same item costs, because of tax regime.
asciilifeform: trying to 'outsmart the casino' tends to end in tears, ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: !!v 265B170DB6417E5EA402DC1315C557BEC9E12A17561A58CC477455B63AE96E9D
asciilifeform: !!unrate douchebag
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lqRJF/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1s
asciilifeform: 'The lights must never go out, / The music must always play, / Lest we should see where we are, / Lost in a haunted wood, / Children afraid of the night / Who have never been happy or good.' (tm)(r)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's the closest thing to an explanatory hypothesis i've ever heard for this
asciilifeform: phunphakt : 1) ~all gringostan office hellholes have gensets. but: 2) completely pointless, they are installed by usg decree and only connect to... the lift (horrors!11, someone could be stuck in a lift for an hour)
asciilifeform: hey at least it aint the afghani indoor cooking fires on nth floor flat described by naggum...
asciilifeform has seen condos with petrol gensets on balcony. but this admittedly is not quite mircea_popescu-grade
asciilifeform: ( does not even need to be a stationary, grand edifice, mine is the size of a typical fulltower comp and serves an entire room )
asciilifeform: bonus, if you have an isolator you then no longer leak bitz into the mains
asciilifeform: at any rate this was not a waste, nao anyone can verify that richard stevens did not lie in his 'sockets' backbreaker, and $item actually worx...
asciilifeform: i was convinced that mircea_popescu was picking at the tcp socket handoff !11 lol!!
asciilifeform feels like compleet idjit nao, lol
asciilifeform: damn, sorry
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: aaaaaaa
asciilifeform: it isn't even detectably slow.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790217 << i hate to disappoint mircea_popescu , but nope : not blocking. and i set up a simple experiment to show. 1) put 161.0.121.247 kremvax in yer /etc/hosts . 2 ) wget http://kremvax/nosuchlabs_FG_1024MB_phreesample.bin -- on as many simult. connections (can be, but does not have to be, on separate ip ) as you like. ☝︎
asciilifeform bbl, food
asciilifeform: and up.
asciilifeform: tip of the log, ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: achtung any and all phpists : plox to see thread in #pizarro
asciilifeform utterly fails to grasp the appeal of 'voice chats', esp. as commonly implemented ( i.e. on closed shitware )
asciilifeform: but yes on linux the only 2 ways to get moar memory than the loader loaded you with, is sbrk and mmap
asciilifeform: so 'alternative' is not exactly right word imho
asciilifeform: every malloc i know of is implemented on top of sbrk
asciilifeform: heapless proggies dun even need brk/sbrk.
asciilifeform: even a musl gnat would be considerable improvement.
asciilifeform: libc has been musting-die for many many yrs.
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: phf: inline + extern would have also worked
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is a correct pill but not the culprit in hanbot's case : phf however just nao found the actual culprit
asciilifeform: strike my observation, then, it is entirely wrong.
asciilifeform: ha, ~xnmalloc~, not xmalloc
asciilifeform: oh hmm
asciilifeform looks again
asciilifeform: and does. not. belong. in. a. library
asciilifeform: it's a libc function
asciilifeform: but in principle the answer seen in my gpr, is the pill. no libc in libs, it makes for duped linkage. (incidentally just as barfy in a c/cpp proggy as in gnat)
asciilifeform: phf: i also was unable to reproduce. but i have not yet switched to the exact 'candidate gnat' in question.
asciilifeform: ( even superceder, should really be a vpatch on diana_coman's artifact imho )
asciilifeform: right
asciilifeform: we still dun have a gnat-for-pc that shits out a binary ~wholly~ without libc ( although ave1 iirc is working on one and is quite close ) . but hanbot's issue is that libc got linked ~into the lib~ which results in attempting to link with 2 copies of libc (1 goes into the main) .
asciilifeform: which this
asciilifeform: hanbot, mircea_popescu , et al : observe in phf's http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools-vpatch/tree/vtools/vdiff.gpr , he did not forbid the linking of libc into the library ( as i did in http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis/tree/ffa/libffa/ffa.gpr#L46 ) . apparently this worx on some gnat, but on hanbot's -- barfs