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mircea_popescu: in the saner 17-18 yo middle, notmany.jpg
asciilifeform knows that it is not the same
mircea_popescu: there's a very proper top. there's a good reason to pay 850k
mircea_popescu: there's a very proper middle, there's good reason to pay 80 rather than 15.
mircea_popescu: i broadly agree, but imo veblen-ness behaves strangely, as in : window. from about 100 to maybe 5 or 10k a bottle.
asciilifeform: which exists from wine to shoelaces
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i say 'above recycled piss pricepoint' it means getting squarely above the 'for the poor' product category in usa
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 02:26:12; asciilifeform: decimation: when you get above the 'recycled piss' price point, i suspect the 'valuation' is 100% 'veblen good.'
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2015#1071933 << what'd that pricepoint be ?
asciilifeform: on account of this, possibly, having an effect on 'interstate commerce.'
asciilifeform: decimation: after 'wickard v. filburn', usg gained - perfectly legally - the power to regulate how many shits we may take per week
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron oh i c. stanford technologees!
asciilifeform: presently testing a build with this crap removed with hot iron
asciilifeform: which may well be the root of the problem
asciilifeform: nubbins`: it's supported in the kernel i'm testing
BingoBoingo: http://www.bnd.com/2015/03/25/3731341/highland-man-turns-salvaged-copper.html << Complimentary lol "“My hands still have calluses from using No. 18 Weiss shear scissors to cut galvanized sheets to form gutters,” he said. “...You couldn’t afford a gutter today the way we made them.”
nubbins`: does list watchdog timer
assbot: Pogoplug Mobile hardware support and device tree effort (Page 1) — Hardware Hacking — OpenWrt ... ( http://bit.ly/1xAoDr9 )
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i have no evidence that the two events are connected. mere suspicion.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: sees, fails to init
nubbins`: asciilifeform the unit's got an rtc tho, it's just not seeing it?
nubbins`: well til what a watchdog timer is
BingoBoingo: Hard to say
danielpbarron: i wonder if that's the dude who banned me
decimation: via the same interstate commerce clause
decimation: after all, the fcc claims to regulate your wifi
decimation: how can the state of michigan regulate interstate commerce?
decimation: actually this raises an interesting jurisdictional problem - the faa claims jurisdiction over all airspace above 0 feet
BingoBoingo: Cheap to the point of disposable is prolly the better avenue
PeterL: sounds like a great new sport, like skeet shooting, but the target can move in any direction, just need to make a drone that is either so cheap it's disposable or which can withstand shotgun hits
mod6: ok one last thing before I rebuild... I needed to add the "-nodnsseed" to bitcoind upon start up otherwise it would just start and exit without doing anything
decimation: well, that's a fair point
BingoBoingo: decimation: Depends on what you are armed with. Shooting with shotgun fine. Proper rifle... Hard to tell when/where bullet is coming down after impact.
decimation: why does this even need to be a law? isn't it obvious that if a flying object is 'harassing' you while you are armed, the proper answer is to shoot it?
PeterL: "The Michigan Department of Natural Resources hasn't received any complaints of hunters using a drone or getting harassed by a drone" << my representatives, hard at work solving problems they just invented
assbot: Michigan legislation would make using drones to hunt or harass hunters a crime ... ( http://bit.ly/1xAmhbS )
PeterL: http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/25/house-passes-bill-make-hunting-harrassing-hunters-drone-crime/70441434/ << darn, I was looking forward to taking a deer with a quadcopter :( </sarcasm>
decimation: except they probably both have staff working fulltime on the upstream kernel
decimation: the problem with open source is that the source code might as well be on mars if nobody can read/use it
asciilifeform: i dropped the link to that turd here. can go and see for yourself
asciilifeform: decimation: they think their 2.6.something built with proprietary (segger?) buildatron is 'open source'
mod6: hang tight.
mod6: there are some different warnings than i've seen before though. i'll rebuild the entire thing again for good measure and use `script` to record the build.
decimation: asciilifeform: if marvell are so keen on supporting 'open source' devel, why don't they support a proper kernel build?
decimation: which is why argentina and chile are good places to find deals on reds
asciilifeform: decimation: when you get above the 'recycled piss' price point, i suspect the 'valuation' is 100% 'veblen good.'
asciilifeform: (and no, it is not available in any format other than pdf, nor is it remotely readable if put through garbage compactor and turned into text, fucking deal with it)
decimation: at least, the tasting and the 'valuation' seem to be disconnected
asciilifeform: pp. 368 table 117
decimation: my perception is that there is some science to it, but it's mostly bs
decimation: re: wine > I took a class on winetasting in undergrad
asciilifeform: while trying to init the rtc
asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts it ends up switching on the watchdog countdown.
asciilifeform: 'drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)' during boot
asciilifeform: but this is pretty obviously a mishandled timer
asciilifeform: (i built it with rootfs cemented in kernel just as a quick test, to avoid having to flash the nand. i have kernel load from lan via tftp for tests. with rootfs and all contents, it is around 21M.)
asciilifeform: if you're quick on your feet, you get some console time
nubbins`: of previous boardfile based kirkwood kernels. Otherwise the kernel silently
nubbins`: "[armel/kirkwood]: Enable DEBUG_MVEBU_UART_ALTERNATE to match the behaviour
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or would you like to reboot your car's ecu manually. << Plenty of people do to cars what you do to pogos
asciilifeform: or would you like to reboot your car's ecu manually.
asciilifeform: watchdogs aren't evil, they are a sad necessity in the world of typical c programmers
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i don't know for a fact that this is happening here. just a hunch
asciilifeform: nubbins`: normally a register where you have to flip a bit every S seconds or power cycled
nubbins`: a timer!
mod6: this aws "small" is so much slower than "medium"
asciilifeform: there is nothing random about this crash.
asciilifeform: i suspect a watchdog timer
asciilifeform: it wasn't the ill-fated sandisk sata flash.
asciilifeform: though i think i have a handle on why
asciilifeform: after 10 to 40 seconds of operation.
mod6: i just used the auto.sh (v0.0.5-32)
mod6: na, ididn't have to do anything different for openssl.
danielpbarron: for openssl i had to do the "make install_sw" thing
mod6: hmm. i suspect this could be an environment problem... but we'll see.
danielpbarron: last time i tried to build bitcoind i got this far -> util.h:650:8: error: 'uint32_t' does not name a type ☟︎
mod6: <+nubbins`> mod6 perf thanks << no prob :]
danielpbarron: it's not easy to get into the thing without ssh
danielpbarron: well unless yours is adulterated, or at the very least set up for net console...
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> asciilifeform: why no ssh in battlepogo? << Why SSH into a machine you have physical access to?
danielpbarron: The workshop will gather technologists, lawyers and entrepreneurs involved in the deployment of distributed blockchain-based applications. Topics discusses will sketch out a techno-legal framework to resolve the challenges facing applications of these technologies without hindering their distributed potential and decentralized character.
danielpbarron: A workshop examining the interplay between blockchain technologies, including distributed cryptoledger, and existing legal infrastructure or regulatory regimes.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 23:50:33; mircea_popescu: danielpbarron where was this ?
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2015#1071588 << my guess is this -> http://blockchainworkshops.org/?page_id=237 ☝︎
nubbins`: now the banner fits on my screen :D
nubbins`: mod6 perf thanks
mod6: building openssl first to ensure good build.
mod6: (removed the size attribute)
mod6: is that better?
nubbins`: dat huge text
nubbins`: jurov if this is correct, plz to small change?
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 16:40:01; asciilifeform: once you utter 'pro-' or 'anti-gmo' you're swallowed the stupid pill.
nubbins`: who maintains thebitcoin.foundation website?
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 19:19:30; asciilifeform: except - they aren't banning monsanto garbage. they're banning 'gmo.'
asciilifeform refers 'gmo' enthusiasts to old thread
asciilifeform: i still suspect that 'cyranose' was disappeared not only because useful in homeland severity (tm)
asciilifeform: to the point of outputting how many days in cask of what wood
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> get stung by nutso us wasp o may gawd... << There's a burrowing and colonizing Vespid species endemic here. When they nest in the yard it is time for the serious chemicals. Eradicating a nest will scar that part of the yard for years.
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2014 19:46:26; asciilifeform: locked up in patent purgatory to this day, afaik
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2014 19:46:16; asciilifeform: the sad part is, 'cyranose' (1990s product based on an oddball solid state gas column) actually worked.