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ben_vulpes: pogo's not my baby by any stretch of the imagination, but doing anything but getting them running seems like unnecessary yak shaving.
ben_vulpes: rip out json/rpc and replace it with a thing i can call that vomits forth formatted blocks first
ben_vulpes: anyways, re wallet, meh in general and too soon in specific methinks.
ben_vulpes: bitcoin in the swear jar, funkenstein_
ben_vulpes: is that the headers-only thing?
mike_c: to be clear, ben_vulpes, this is for future unspecified project to create node out of smaller device than pogo
ben_vulpes: the latter i don't care too much about.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: that, and remove the 'attractive nuisance'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and this to reduce size of bitcoind binary?
mike_c: thing is, one could clone the code, rip out most of the stuff that wasn't the wallet, and voila, new binary that is a wallet.
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-03-2015#1039405 << there's the one, 777 boeing hax keywords yay ☝︎
mike_c: (and double the test matrix)
ben_vulpes: mike_c: what i mean to say is that the reference implementation only bears the wallet by virtue of there being no other thing that serves as a wallet.
mike_c: the separate RI wallet binary could talk to RI bitcoind to send btc
Chillum: I am about to see if a Raspberry Pi 2 can run a full node. The Pi 1 starts to crap out around mid 2014
mike_c: right. that's what one is going to do with a wallet.
ben_vulpes: cant' use a pogo to send btc
ben_vulpes: on the other hand - what else is one going to do?
ben_vulpes: on one hand yeah - what is a wallet doing in there?
ben_vulpes: but as asciilifeform's said before, the RI has to parachute into mars, bitcoinating
mike_c: oh. i thought somebody said it was on your todo list.
ben_vulpes: <mike_c> short-term (i.e. pogo) solution is to run bitcoind with the config switch. in the near future the foundation will remove the wallet << oh we will?
ben_vulpes: <funkenstein_> the trouble with a reference implemention is https://xkcd.com/927/ << no, this is a consensus project.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: someone did suggest a good reason why not - the chore of maintaining two branches
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: who wants to consider tossing the wallet code from pogo variant of 0.5.3 ? it's dead weight << don't see why not
trinque: ascii_field: got any search terms which will conjure that link from the logs?
ascii_field: trinque: how well they work, and when they are used, and who orders it - i do not know.
trinque: ascii_field: saw the link re: boeing I think it was
ascii_field: trinque: the remotes -were put in-, by and large across the board, in '01-03
trinque: flight 9525 seems a great way to argue "see, this is why we need to be able to remote-control planes"
ascii_field: i, for example, only need to cycle power to the 'pogo' to test a newly-built turdel.
ascii_field: otherwise the debug loop is unbearably tedious
ascii_field: anyone who is planning to screw with the kernel, -must- have tftp set up
ascii_field: but no devices appear for them
ascii_field: that is, i have the marvell config flags set
ascii_field: nubbins`: like sata, it mysteriously fails to work
nubbins`: i'll take a peek at the light and button stuff, seems straight-forward
ascii_field: did cut a bunch of irrelevant crud from the kernel (keyboards, mice, sound cards, etc)
ascii_field: and how to read the pushbutton and toggle the lamp
ascii_field: so that i can, perhaps, escape the chore of figuring out why sata refuses to init
ascii_field: i want folks building their own pogo runtimes soon.
ascii_field: ideally will wrap this up tonight
ascii_field: nubbins`: it's a mega-turd. not just one config, but four, and they have to be packaged in a certain way
nubbins`: i'll stick with that
nubbins`: what's the endian-ness of the pogo's arm, big?
Adlai: ascii_field: mining only needs an output script for the coinbase
mike_c: short-term (i.e. pogo) solution is to run bitcoind with the config switch. in the near future the foundation will remove the wallet and miner and then it will be smaller around the same time we want to fit it on a 8m device.
nubbins`: make wallet=off the default while we decide when to trim
ascii_field: punkman: for the wallet-less version, would be logical. (how can mine without wallet ?)
nubbins`: suppose instead of -disablewallet, flip the bit and make it -enablewallet?
punkman: maybe add my mining-snip patch too
ascii_field: but i will leave this for the folks whose project it actually is, to decide
mike_c: ok, so cut it later when we have a 8m device we want to fit it on.
ascii_field: mike_c: would like to fit on boards with 8M rom
mike_c: ascii_field: you saying that cutting it makes it more portable? or just easier to fit on smaller arch.
mike_c: yeah, fine, but that's different from starting a pogo branch. if it gets cut from master branch, problem solved (if there is a problem?)
ascii_field: mike_c: i have several candidates for replacement of 'pogo' if something 'happens to' our supply.
ascii_field: mike_c: the buildroot i have is theoretically retargetable to multiple cpu archs and boards with minimal effort
mike_c: i thought it was like 5.5mb.
ascii_field: mike_c: would like to cut some footprint
mike_c: does the -disablewallet config switch exist in this version? that would be easier way to prevent children from playing with matches
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: tell that to beavis >> http://s965.photobucket.com/user/TimeCaptured/media/saw1.png.html
BingoBoingo: Nah, the powersaw is safer and people tend to learn from that
ascii_field: like a power saw left unwatched for children to play with
BingoBoingo: Seems prudent to excise it
ascii_field: the jurist term is 'attractive nuisance' iirc.
funkenstein_: the trouble with a reference implemention is https://xkcd.com/927/
ascii_field: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: who wants to consider tossing the wallet code from pogo variant of 0.5.3 ? it's dead weight
funkenstein_: hmm builds proceeding. funny thing is i never got any coins to build on fedora20x64
thestringpuller: nubbins` is always joking about dead bodies and cocaine in trunk of car as we cross border
funkenstein_: nah I add that in later nubbins ;)
nubbins`: hmm initial scan from test machine shows malware behind that link
funkenstein_: speaking of testing i have an escrow site I've been trying to make usable
mod6: well, thanks for testing anyway. appreciate it!
funkenstein_: i'm not going to run it there anyway, it was just for test
funkenstein_: but likely the issue is my build environment
mod6: what debian? (we test on deb6)
mod6: oh thanks danielpbarron
funkenstein_: hmm i didn't get my debian box to build
mod6: so it turns out that debian didn't need the -nodnsseed flag, but gentoo did just like you ran into with ubuntu, i wanna make a comment on that in the address perhaps.
funkenstein_: if it was useful i could test on fedora
mod6: yikes that paste expires in 1 day lol. thanks though funkenstein_, I'll save it locally so i've got it.
funkenstein_: whee look at that, cooking with gas
mod6: nubbins`: np. i think it's just good to get it in the list for now. later we can take it, massage whatever is needed and get it into a proper patch and test it.
mod6: shows send/recieve on the 64 bit static binary
nubbins`: i should also prolly resend that email with a subject so it doesn't get lost. right now it shows up as a reply to some other no-subject post
nubbins`: mod6 plz to emphasize that osx patch does not come with official nintendo seal of quality
mod6: (i have a recent one, but not on this machine atm)
mod6: yeah, tested send/recieve. lemme see if I can find you a link.
mod6: i was thinking about including some of that info in the monthly address.
mod6: do you still have the link to the pastebin stuff you gave me for your ubuntu build?
funkenstein_: and you have put some sample TXs through it?
funkenstein_: mod6, thanks good to hear it
mod6: <+funkenstein_> anybody sync a 0.5.3.1 node yet? << i have a lot of times, probably at least 15 times since october. but... not a pogo. just the R.I. on a linux install.
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nubbins`: i keep running my battery down to 0% which tends to make me have to rescan everything
danielpbarron: the version i'm running is not the latest release though
danielpbarron: i see no reason for it to not fully sync at this point
nubbins`: danielpbarron is in the 300k range on one of his