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ben_vulpes: someday we'll be
tops for any string starting with
turd as well
ben_vulpes: who sez
they don't use algos anymore, eh?
ben_vulpes: #ba is
tops on my google for lizard hitler
mircea_popescu: (the funniest
thing about
this is
that not having read
the logs, he can't help but wonder about it lol)
Chillum: and of course
the jews did 911
mircea_popescu: Chillum i understand how
the stupidity defends itself - like any other. what encuriouses me is... how does it get born.
Chillum: we hear from
the people
trying
to reveal
the
truth about
the lizards a lot
nubbins`: those dots you see moving, unblinking, across
the sky 20x a night are
the lizards
mircea_popescu: but by now ? how
the fuck would you
think it's flat. "because it looks flat from space" ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` formulate plan : only invite potheads
to b-a. nubbins` looks upon results : good good goood!
Chillum: I have been an admin on wikipedia for 8 years,
the
thin skinned ones die out
nubbins`: Chillum, you're
thicker-skinned
than most
mircea_popescu: the wot works perfectly well on any scale larger
than where a democracy breaks down
Chillum: well can
the WoT give you 20,000 volunteers if you needed
them?
Chillum: it works great, but only
to a certain scale
Chillum: just make sure you remove
the bootloader so
they can't reflash it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you recall, his argument 10 minutes ago stated correctly
that "people will install anything at any
time for any reason
Chillum: Instead of renting servers send cheap computers
to volunteers for free. Will be cheaper in
the long run
mircea_popescu: Chillum i was
thinking, get
the naked ladies
to do specials.
Chillum: release a screensaver
that does it lol, worked for SETI
Chillum: well you would want network diversity for
that
Chillum: having a crate of computers is great. Having
them all work on
the same problem at
the same
time is awesome
Chillum: I got 5 Pi 2s and 10 more on
the way
Chillum: I could offer raspberry pis, but you would need
to VPN your own internet connection
to
them, I don't want bitcoin/irc dudes using my home internet lulz
Chillum: but if
there is demand and a willingness
to pay a reasonable markup
Chillum: it will be a lot of work
to do it securely
though
Chillum: well mircea I can write a wrapper for AWS
that accepts bitcoins from people on a whitelist
Chillum: well
the issue with bitcoin hosting is lack of accountability.
The guy who is renting
the servers
to
the bitcoin anon will get
the abuse complaints when
they spam
Chillum: you do realize
that some of
the most successful internet companies are low margin right?
mircea_popescu: Chillum i've been
trying
to shoehorn random people into doing it since... omgerd 2013.
ben_vulpes: 2) if it's
that low margin, why bother in
the first place?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he basically wants
trilema credits for whatever.
Chillum: the owner relies on it being low maintenance in order for it
to be profitable
Chillum: consider
the use case of a service
that rents say minecraft servers by
the hour.
The user need
to be able
to establish a balance and later withdraw
their balance when
they are done in a reasonable amount of
time
Chillum: most companies want
tools
that work without
their intervention
mircea_popescu: not so easy and quite expensive, which is why alternatives are always
tempting. but go on ?
Chillum: Security is easy if you have
to manually approve each and every
transaction
mircea_popescu: an airgap is merely a golden standard BECAUSE it disallows automation.
there's ipso definitio no automated airgap.
mircea_popescu: Chillum not
to pry into your soul here, but mind describing
the cause of
the need for automation ?
Chillum: If
the solution being offered is an air-gap
then
that only works in certain scenarios
Chillum: ben_vulpes:
That is always a risk with a hot wallet, but if
the system needs
to be automated
then what is
the alternative?
nubbins`: all of
those
things are possible and if you press alf he'll admit
that he expects all
three
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: well something has
to poke
the wallet in an automated fashion
nubbins`: mircea_popescu as seen in my latest submit: "Follow
these instructions at your own peril, and upon risk of divestment, dismemberment, or death."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it'd be one way nah ? from his wallet
to
the node. not
the other way.
ben_vulpes: Chillum: and if
the web host
talking
to
the API gets compromised?
mircea_popescu: firewalls are finnicy
to setup, but once correctly setup on a linux box
they're reliable.
mircea_popescu: the number of random people
trying random
things will exponential
Chillum: was going
to use firewall enforced vpn
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes dunno how best implemented, but he raises a good point we're prone
to neglect : as exposure increases, which it necessarily will,
Chillum: again, needs
to be automated
mircea_popescu: Chillum : better plan, sign your
txn off
the hot box, import
them
there
through private connection.
ben_vulpes: perhaps
throw an error on boot if someone
tries
to use
the
tls flags.
Chillum: though it will use a cold-wallet reserve system
to minimize exposure
Chillum: air-gap is not an option for me, it needs
to be automated
mircea_popescu: mod6 ben_vulpes you
think some warnings should be brewed maybe ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this may or may not be
true, upon contemplation.
Chillum: It was recommended
to me by
two people here before I read
the patches
ben_vulpes: Chillum: some day i'd like
this
thing
to not even have a json/rpc api.
mircea_popescu: Chillum yeah. like, you know, how
the bitcoin wallets were plaintext for... i dunno, 3years or so.
ben_vulpes: if you *want*
to run it, and *can* read
the provided documentation, do so.
Chillum: avoiding
the need for encryption on
the API
through sound security practices is one
thing. Recommending something without encryption without describing
those practices is a recipe for disaster.
mircea_popescu: not like
there's any rush. and generally,
the stuff you're used
to worrying about holds no sway here. so.. .jus relax an' enjoy.
Chillum: I will read _some_ of
the logs later
Chillum: I am interested in other ideas, it is just a bit hard
to understand what your best practices are
assbot: Logged on 28-03-2015 16:31:34; mod6: plz go read 1+ year of logs +
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