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deedbot: trinque rated ben_vulpes 3 at 3623669040 << friend, gentleman, warrior
trinque: $rated ben_vulpes
diana_coman: <trinque> I'm not totally clear on what happened with diana_coman, because I did not remove the old methods. <- I sent the !up apparently before the change and it worked; but then the !v did not work as meanwhile the change was made (or so I gathered)
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants certainties fit for the godz, he'dve stuck to mathematics, no ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: negative to all 3. again, i only ~suspect~. when i pull the parachute cord, i also do not ~know~ that it will open.
trinque: I'm not totally clear on what happened with diana_coman, because I did not remove the old methods.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it is very painful. the "unnecessary" item is still being touched here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the same sense the easter island folks were dumb
ben_vulpes: returning to 'boots on the ground', mircea_popescu raises a valid point about changing the interface on users. but the "it should restart on code change to tell users things changed" imposes a very painful, unnecessary constraint on diddling deployed systems.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sanity also includes ~actually specifying~ the fallover behaviours.
mircea_popescu: you know, trinque asciilifeform phf ben_vulpes and other folks with the lisp interest : diana_coman 's mishap earlier makes me think about this. so... "changing code without restart is pretty cool". subjectively, it feels that way, i feel it. but then ... what of the people caught in mid transaction by an invisible change ? seems to me this coolness resolves no actual problem, just pushes the goop around.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he obviously wants it for blind process.
mircea_popescu: $v diana_coman
trinque: mircea_popescu: ^
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deedbot: deedbot rated ben_vulpes 1
mircea_popescu: !lord ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: !rate ben_vulpes
deedbot: deedbot rated mike_c 1
mircea_popescu: !lord mike_c
deedbot: deedbot rated mircea_popescu 1
mircea_popescu: !lord mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: something like lord.diana_coman.A3E33DB8F824C115206CB9A8B6B2EDF701556F664741761E8EDF5CE6662D12F7 or such.
deedbot: deedbot rated diana_coman 1
mircea_popescu: !lord diana_coman
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trinque: !gettrust trinque ben_vulpes
trinque: I'll properly package the source, clean shit up a bit, then post for asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, phf to give a beating.
trinque: mircea_popescu: ^ ?
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> check it out, ten bitcents buys you all four. << i bet it buys a good bit of hot air. 14yos ~lie~...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what means 'historical b-a' here ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 hey man do you have bouncer logs of historical b-a ? << sadly, no. :/
phf: mircea_popescu: 26-04-2013
asciilifeform: but plox call things as they are, it is not erections that are scarce, but that mircea_popescu has only 1 cock afaik
asciilifeform: i still wish i knew what mircea_popescu means by 'erection is scarce'
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i believe it's not so different from any other simplified approach, such as johnny bravo seeing hot mammas all around ; or else orc warrior seeing world in terms of threats etc.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman "Ha, wouldn’t you say that’s how it happens really?" << hey what's this mean ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pete_dushenski: being the pig is also +ev until christmas. << he has a point. "renegotiable" when your side of the negotiation is pack it and leave and their side is "take it or leave it" is insanity on a stick.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I class that under "icky"
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski interesting! so one can either borrow at a low rate and expect no return, or borrow at a high rate and pray for a return?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: li battery recalls are a snore
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what's the exciting part? this happens allt he fucking time
phf: which returns 29-08-2015 14:14:55 <mircea_popescu> maybe you're right, and it's incidentals. or maybe lisp to the young mind is like meth-lsd
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ideally, they go in the form of renting time from a workshop wtf is this my garage is my workshop artisan thing. << Arises from the idea that public tools are icky
shinohai buys a boat and starts a bitcoin privateer business with pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: being the pig is also +ev until christmas.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes it may well be that i hail from narnia, but yes, interest rates and house prices are inversely correlated. furthermore, and i forget sometimes that americans lock in rates for entire mortgages, but canadians typically renegotiate their rates every 5 years. longer terms are available, but it's been +ev to take shorter terms for so long that i don't know of a single homeowner who doesn't do 5-year term
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: april1?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/aKIww
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: consider, a litre of hydrogen lifts ~1 gram.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this is hilarious
asciilifeform: but increasingly i am convinced of mircea_popescu's point, 'ecosystem' of cockroaches is worse than none
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/outrageous-mps-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/#comment-116904
phf: when's gabriel_laddel going to join us
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, http://trilema.com/2016/outrageous-mps-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/#selection-99.36-99.46 << but it any case / but ~in~ any case ?
danielpbarron: ben_vulpes> btw, where is the epic mp asciilifeform thread about tuning the nonce shifting << http://danielpbarron.com/2016/the-new-bitcoin/
asciilifeform: 'It is improper. Enumerations must always be made of items of the same kind. It's not enough that the items answer to the same purpose. They must actually be of the same kind.' << aaaaand this is how we learned that mircea_popescu , under the cover of darkness, programs! in ada !1111
jurov: deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201603.txt.asc
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2016/outrageous-mps-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/#comment-116902 << mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: let's rephrase, how did mircea_popescu become convinced that usg did ~not know~ ?
asciilifeform: what would it have done differently, in mircea_popescu's view, if it knew ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are entire office bldgs where they do nothing but hear out stoolies of all colours
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: mhm
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you ever buy that suv btw ?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: how does leased electricmobile that will work hummingly and economically for three years until returned to mothership compare to plastic food that becomes part of one's body ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there ~were~ steam diddlers in 1880s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they make even chainsaws
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a type of honda
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: mnope
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: what you'll take and what's more economical are different considerations
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski's wife's car is not on pete_dushenski's books?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: does the woman drive ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: how many of these do you have now ?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: not saying you should rent a car and "win" "points", but you recall our earlier discussion of tco ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: whatchawaitinfor ?
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2016/outrageous-mps-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/#comment-116900 << mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i understand why you pick example of feudal battlefield, rather than red army, but the latter was actually the state of the art afaik.
asciilifeform: this is why i always had sympathy with the folks who pete_dushenski enjoys feeling superior to.
asciilifeform: PeterL: ask this after you buy a bunch today, and mircea_popescu drops the nuke in the great phorkwarz of july
asciilifeform: i admit that i wonder if pete_dushenski's misconceptions came to him from his ancestors, for whom saving sorta worked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's advice, 'become a pirate!1111' is ~practical and mega-useful~ by comparison !
mircea_popescu: possibly pete_dushenski himself as well.
asciilifeform: my original point is that it is also not related to pete_dushenski's peculiar cargo cultisms
mircea_popescu: part one. you said "i've never done 'honest work' in my whole life, phf." ; and "mircea_popescu has a spiffy article, about folks 'worth their weight in frozen pork'". this equivocates experience with capacity.
asciilifeform: 0l holy shit i just read a trilema where mircea_popescu agreed with me?!
asciilifeform: i am left to wonder, clearly mircea_popescu has a very high opinion of orc scum, why doesn't he recruit ~them~ to write his softs, run his companies, etc. ?
asciilifeform: http://www.contravex.com/2016/03/31/cheep-petes-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/#comment-42690 << pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: well as i gather mircea_popescu's answer was 'you could start doing 17 yo work for shit wage' and i answer 'why the fuck should i a single day earlier than forced to.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has a spiffy article, about folks 'worth their weight in frozen pork'
asciilifeform: phf: aha, in mircea_popescu's harem
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually bignum is a nightmare because of algo transitions
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did precisely once, with my last employer. there was much gnashing of teeth, and ill feeling from the other slaves (there were only a handful of us, and no one was actually replaceable)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun need living LIKE A NATIVE in ro for anything.
trinque: just ask ben_vulpes
PeterL: <asciilifeform> 11:50 <+mircea_popescu> so what's rent like in the cheap suburbs next to umd ? << i pay ~2k (if you count electric, gas, etc) for <1k sq ft. << my new house is ~1k for 2k sq ft (plus 1k basement, could be used as workshop)
asciilifeform: why does mircea_popescu think i could be an ~average~ dope man, much less a heroic one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is a lulzy fella
asciilifeform: and $the_other_firm_that_sells_0days
asciilifeform: $firm_that_sells_0days