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ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-04 09:01:11 mircea
_popescu: i dunno, the part where people of reddit are grandstanding offa imaginary high moral grounds re imaginary "child porn"... whole fucking alt-trilema that's reddit exists because of their unmitigated love for child porn. if it weren't for that dedication, the spearhead of unlaid dorkitude'd still be called digg.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-04 09:39:35 mircea
_popescu: yeah, the more i think about it the more i'm persuaded : this is the problem, fellows got FIXED codecs, tryna apply them results in ~random noise within a few steps.
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: your
comment seems to have gotten somehow mangled and/or truncated (it has a part that repeats)?
hanbot: mircea
_popescu: damned near. my tolerance for the sorta shit seems to have gone down. i need a hazmat suit or something (or a chill pill, heh).
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: that's why I find it funny; precisely because of this "it's so much further away than that, that we'll call it ...that; a sort of heat seeming cold and the other way around.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-04 05:38:15 mircea
_popescu: because totally, this is how the pantsuit "
sincere regret" device works : gmaxwell is "sincerely sorry" about his 2011 "business" in his mind only wasting a buncha people's coins, therefore "mp largely slinked off into the shadows after one of his crappy businesses disappeared with people's coins".
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: ^ is my current answer for that a) vs b) choice.
lobbes: diana
_coman: woah, you are right; I had never realized that there is no year 0 in that calendar scheme
lobbes: diana
_coman: hm, but then what about, say, 0 A.D.? Wasn't that the start of the 'first' decade?
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: what about cs/ps anyway? ie graphics as "how & what to store" is one thing; there is still at all times some sort of "how to get from data to pretty pics/animations/etc"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-30 12:41:13 mircea
_popescu: diana
_coman, the way this coming to a head is working out in my head is as follows : you have practically speaking the option to either a) go trawl the entire internet, drag out ~everything~ that's conceivably useful (submit expenses report for stuff that's behind reasonable paywalls i guess) and then we systematize the pile ; or else write a possible-lifeform-generation machine and see what you want it to save
mircea_popescu: diana
_coman, sadly i do not currently believe anyone whose name is going to be worth knowing in ten years is older than about fifteen today. with maybe a dozen exceptions.
mircea_popescu: diana
_coman, the way this coming to a head is working out in my head is as follows : you have practically speaking the option to either a) go trawl the entire internet, drag out ~everything~ that's conceivably useful (submit expenses report for stuff that's behind reasonable paywalls i guess) and then we systematize the pile ; or else write a possible-lifeform-generation machine and see what you want it to save.
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: I had the article on the
toolchain to help her as I knew she was having a go at it based on some discussion in #eulora I think; maybe that?
mircea_popescu: diana
_coman, the problem with the foregoing is that i can kinda ballpark the COST of maintaining all the infrastructure for monkeys to typewrite at their leisure. so can you, i expect.
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: hm, thinking now about it, I think there might be, namely the more directly game-relevant parts that are also not yet fully spec (eg character, structure/item etc); I need to go over it in this light, put the graphics to the side for now and see from there.
mircea_popescu: diana
_coman, let's restate this, so currently work on nailing down the comms protocol is stalled on a definitive universal data model, which is stalled on graphical use in the client, that about it ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 02:22:16 mircea
_popescu: so listen... while you were away there's been a lot of progress ongoing in the republic, these guys now have blogs and stick to publishing planning schedules and such wunderbar alien techs. you gonna catch up with the group ?
mircea_popescu: diana
_coman, motherfucker, they force-inherited us with their idiotic everything-depends-on-everything-else model, did they!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 09:56:30 mircea
_popescu: neways, as to the burning "OTOH, I wonder if things like Apache or imagemagick get installed, how will the package management system work out, and how comprehensible will system stay?" question -- i see the merit of using the clean spot as a fixed point to attempt expanding cleanliness. so, it would work by apache becoming tmserv or w/e, and not sucking anymore.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-30 07:02:12 mircea
_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-29#1956250 << i honestly think it's the right approach. "identify an useful iota of acceptable internal structure and measure everything in that". next step self-obviously being, "once pretty much everything's within the first sigma, take another look at what you mean by acceptable internal structure".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 18:21:12 trinque: whaack: starting at beliefs is going to be a shaky foundation, but fwiw I "believe" most folks writing lisp today are compulsive masturbators like gabriel
_laddel
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-23 02:15:42 mp
_en
_viaje: wut is this java bullshit, "oh, i've been fucking three women". mocky.org/three-nude-sluts when!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 18:19:37 whaack: diana
_coman: if i search for a piece of lisp code to do something, I have a (perhaps naive) belief that I am more likely to find something well written, since there are fewer people using the language
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 18:13:10 diana
_coman: re paster though tbh this attempt (coming as it does on top of the previous mess with
python and its flask) left me looking again for not using either.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 18:11:26 diana
_coman: ahaha, by now I see that trinque will measure everything in multiples of busybox.
mircea_popescu: naggum for that mattter is being whipped upside down in hell even as we speak, specifically for "wtf did you do with your calling, you schmuck, killed yourself before hearing it ?
TAKE IT LIKE A LITTLE BITCH".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 15:14:42 mp
_en
_viaje: and in general -- the absentee, the insufficient, the "otherwise busy", the butthurt, physically or mentally -- better pray they're in fact quite as inconsequential as they seem.
mircea_popescu: sp systems that just
_don't
_ offer the serious advantages that solid Common Lisp systems do that people can't
_afford
_ to provide for free." carrying the day with me, but in larger part the actual absence of any serious problem (besides, ~perhaps~,
this) we actually could meaningfully use it for. you really don't need lisp to make a blog anymore than you need a
mircea_popescu: this is in part naggum's "in my view, Common Lisp provides
_values
_ that far exceed what other languages do, but I fully realize that people won't understand this until they have actually experienced the problems that it solves for them. now, what's
_really
_ sad is that those who want free Common Lisp systems have
_not
_ seen what the commercial systems provide in just this way, and they will go on to make free Common Li
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 17:38:31 whaack: diana
_coman: From my experience, for most packages from quicklisp you're going to have problems if you don't have asdf 3+, which comes with sbcl 1.4.14 (not sure what the first version of sbcl with asdf 3+ was)
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: tbh re ints I recall an article on trilema.com - if I can find it now, hm.
mircea_popescu: diana
_coman, i didn't imagine you had, no. just... you know, my own amusements, what can i say. tara mica da' vesela.
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: that's not possible as the only "old blog not moved" is that thing on wordpress.org that dates from...uhm, 2009/10 ?
diana_coman: mircea
_popescu: do you mean the move to int64?
mircea_popescu: btw diana
_coman there's no ossasepia on the original "holy shit, ints!!" or am i just not finding it ?
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-02-21 21:53:17: <mircea
_popescu> now, eulora DID move away from broken ints to sane ints during migration to 0.1.2, and i don't know anyone cared enohgh to extensively debug the insanity that is microsoft. so you might have found something. what exactly were those new errors ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 13:49:02 trinque: mircea
_popescu: does this mean "everything is always built and installed" ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 22:56:45 trinque: and jfw, dorion
_road, if you don't see the word "Gales" in there, it's because I'm trying to disabuse you of the notion that there's such thing as a "Gales" which you made, by way of sheer numbers.
trinque: whaack: starting at beliefs is going to be a shaky foundation, but fwiw I "believe" most folks writing lisp today are compulsive masturbators like gabriel
_laddel
whaack: diana
_coman: if i search for a piece of lisp code to do something, I have a (perhaps naive) belief that I am more likely to find something well written, since there are fewer people using the language
whaack: diana
_coman: I tried and failed to upgrade to asdf 3+ while keeping my sbcl 1.something . That is one reason why I switched my sbcl to 1.4.14
whaack: diana
_coman: i'm using asdf 3.3.1
whaack: diana
_coman: From my experience, for most packages from quicklisp you're going to have problems if you don't have asdf 3+, which comes with sbcl 1.4.14 (not sure what the first version of sbcl with asdf 3+ was)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 05:44:04 diana
_coman: trinque: is the select thing not working on your blog? I'm trying to select that great "fits in hand" and I can't seem to,
this doesn't do anything.
bvt: mircea
_popescu: re second q, imho cleaning up the components will be driven by how the OS gets [re]structured around V, too early to say right now
bvt: mircea
_popescu: ty; fixed.
trinque: mircea
_popescu: does this mean "everything is always built and installed" ?
mircea_popescu: or to put it another way, i do not believe it is either intelligent or even tolerable to try and carry forward the "install" paradigm from derpworld. something much more akin to diana
_coman 's work on eulora is what "get installed" will have to mean.
whaack: mircea
_popescu: approved ^
deedbot: 2019/08/01 17:40:34 <shrysr> mp
_en
_viaje: yes selection on your pages work, and so does younghands.club, .. seen it before and just rechecked.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 07:29:14 spyked: mircea
_popescu: hm, from what I see it only sent the comments/new feeds since it first saw mircea
_popescu offline
trinque: and jfw, dorion
_road, if you don't see the word "Gales" in there, it's because I'm trying to disabuse you of the notion that there's such thing as a "Gales" which you made, by way of sheer numbers.
trinque: diana
_coman: me too, actually! enjoying myself over here.
trinque: mircea
_popescu: I'm willing to adapt, and to use my blog to do so.
spyked: mircea
_popescu: hm, from what I see it only sent the comments/new feeds since it first saw mircea
_popescu offline
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-27 08:17:17 mp
_en
_viaje: neways, your main hope is deconstructing the supression machine, not trying to find it new fields of employ.
deedbot: mircea
_popescu rated Mocky 9 at 2019/09/25 10:45:13 << ἀποκρισιάριος دولة قطر
deedbot: mp
_en
_viaje has not rated Mocky.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-11-15 11:58:12 mircea
_popescu: i'll want the coin back next year. now go forth and own stupidity no more!
ossabot: Logged on 2018-11-15 11:56:36 mircea
_popescu: !!pay Mocky 1
deedbot: Mocky paid mircea
_popescu 1
Mocky: !!pay mircea
_popescu 1
deedbot: diana
_coman updated rating of asciilifeform from 9 to 1 << Tech outputs brilliant when available; talk outputs and people "evaluations" entirely unreliable.
deedbot: diana
_coman updated rating of Metronix from 2 to 1 << Indonesian ISP; has key, won't use it.
deedbot: diana
_coman updated rating of crowncloud
_ from 2 to 1 << Australian ISP with US dc-partner; has key, won't use it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-26 06:08:34 mp
_en
_viaje: diana
_coman, imo all the rest can stay. also imo it is more important to be right than principled. the principles can be written in afterwards, for as long as you're right ; if you're wrong no writ will save you anyway.
deedbot: BingoBoingo updated rating of mircea
_popescu from 10 to 9 << Lord of Lords
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated mircea
_popescu 10 at 2014/03/05 01:09:07 << Ongoing bsns