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mircea_popescu: fantozzi once famously went shopping brought his shit back home in an excavator, with a fleet of dozen cabs following. cuz rich!
asciilifeform: can rent. my neighbour at prev street kept a stable of'em.
mircea_popescu: dude... i went into the lot, asked for the boss, they pointed me to the office-latrine, i was like "i want an excavator" he was like "50 a day" "i was like here" then he pointed out the window to machinery.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's expertise re real estate reminds me of construction expert recommending diesel-powered circular saws to escaping prisoner. zek does not have diesel saw, or electric, zek has a length of band saw smuggled in anally.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731030 << don't be silly, renting excavator is like 50 bux a day, no questions asked. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and this is generally a point -- if you want quality sex work done, you bring your own whores. and so following.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:26 diana_coman: asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731027 << same exact http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731342 as before -- if you own a construction crew, yes. otherwise, no. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: well no, in ro you get a house, in theory, for what a harley costs in usa.
asciilifeform: and intend to keep having a scum-free 4 walls and laboratory.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most "independent" vagabonds with delusions of being students live on 2-300 a month you realise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can prolly have something like a detached suburban house or a girl's townhouse (3 rooms, central) for three figs np.
mircea_popescu: (similar to how exams, or sentences work -- you're more than welcome to appeal, but you can end up with a worse outcome! you didn't like your 6, here's a 4. you didn't like the 5 years, here's 7.)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:24 asciilifeform: yea but when you rent a house, orig owner can fail to renew lease, and kick you
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731021 << not at all ; for one thing you take a 3 or 5 year lease ; this works as an option -- you can stay or leave, they can;'t kick you out. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but i'd be buying a freestanding thing, not a hruscheba, lol
mircea_popescu: but you can have the bare-concrete matchbox flats, those are a nightmare in terms of heat efficiency. which generally why cheap.
asciilifeform: that's less than what i pay nao, by far, because today i live in a ~paper~ house.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like it sure, but still gotta heat. iirc a reasonably modern setup took me back something like $1 / cubicmeter-year.
mircea_popescu: and timisoara, technically is mediteranean climate, has figs. except one year there it had a winter of pure doom, people died in teh streets etc.
mircea_popescu: your heating costs will typically outpace it by two degrees of magnitude (romania does get bitter winters, a la boston not a la wash dc)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:23 asciilifeform: sounds like on anything short of a palace, it is less than my current mains current bill
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731019 << i never paid anything notable in property tax, even for whole buildings. typically it's the last in a sorted list of property bills, under even de-snowing services and such. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:15 asciilifeform: i'ma have to research, but i'd bet money that it is true. otherwise americans would have snapped up all of the country, and there would not exist such a thing as a 50k-usd house in timis.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, when's the last time yo usaw anyone get out of the car with a tire iron in hand ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730980 << you overestimate people's grit. most people who own a building imagine their biosack's "worth a lot more" than that, will not deign to risk it over such a piddly item as a sackful of dough. WHAT IF HE BITES BACK!?!?!?! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:08 diana_coman: ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 15:00 asciilifeform: also afaik you still need a saecular bank in the loop to buy real estate there.
mircea_popescu: full example : 1. you find dood wants to buy btc ; 2. you pre-arrange time, place, values involved ; 3. you register alf-trade-0001 nick ; 4. you register a key for it with deedbot ; 5. you !!pay sum to it ; 6. you meet buyer, with that thing's key ; 7. pay or not pay, but in any case.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 14:58 asciilifeform: there's maybe 3 people who i trust to be physically present in a room where i bring a btc privkey. and none of them live in ro.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730969 << this makes no sense, does it ? you... call the operator to authorize a pre-arranged payment. way this has worked since days of fugger. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:58 cazalla: my daugther, so beautiful, maybe fathers bias https://imgur.com/a/4ejEM
mircea_popescu: they call spawners "whales" for a reason you know.
mircea_popescu: correct solution is to just use the spawning pool, "always a woman or two in there, and a buncha infants".
mircea_popescu: well there's no such thing as standard acquarium. but sure, keep the temperature reasonable, an hour or two at a stretch, can be multiple passes per day.
asciilifeform: sorta hilarious, anglos turned the (elementary, but for some reason 'unprintable') fact that some % of females, 'apoptote' their spawn -- into a faux-epidemiological clusterfuck
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730817 << never a good idea to entertain the byproduct of uppity fathers. he wants her, he can appassionata all over her ass. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 13:32 asciilifeform: how a gypsy can get fact, remains a mystery
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730799 << been doing a lot of that have you ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( in practice, neither will, once i find/make a scan of the ru )
asciilifeform: 'a whole policeman'
asciilifeform: they have a phrase,
asciilifeform: ( chukcha is offered a goodb00k. replies 'but thank you, old friend, i already own a book!'
asciilifeform: there is a chukcha story about this
asciilifeform: i made mistake of buying a b00k on ro for englischers one time
mircea_popescu: in a proper language, that is.
asciilifeform: it's a cheat
mircea_popescu: "oh, i must have a different "for" loop depending if it's long or short"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gimme a break. the issue here is that notation MUST BE PHONETIC. never grammatical.
asciilifeform: ( for n00bz, modern czech is a conlang. in 19th c very few literate folx in present-day czechia used it, they spoke german )
mircea_popescu: here : http://trilema.com/2011/grafia-istorica-a-limbii-romane/
mircea_popescu: (this is a very specific thing, watch some 60s/70s nazisploitations, get the "german" as spoken by cheap italian meat)
asciilifeform: which is a joy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform modern ru sounds like tinto brass paid a bunch of whores from the periphery of rome to read phonetic notation of ivan's testament, yes.
mircea_popescu: very. except they got A, instead of O and O, instead of U and assorted idiocies.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nfi why they hallucinated a need for 32 letters to write down a ~mostly latin sounding language. or w/e, if you prefer, very-soft-slavic.
asciilifeform: polish is pretty easy if you already know a slavic lang
asciilifeform: whole thing reads like a crock.
asciilifeform: lol that looks like a classical orlol boat , shinohai
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730589 << this is actually a common ... "mistake" let's say. add to the "hungarian languages -> jew / romanian commerce -> anything but" also the "if you meet a german in colonial posessions, it;s a pole." ☝︎
asciilifeform: where you need 1e6 of mircea_popescu's fathers, to make a mircea_popescu , etc
mircea_popescu: the only fucking problem is that the young uns tend to listen to them as if they were people, by virtue of the indiscriminate cluelessness of youth -- they'd listen to a puppy if it could speak, on the basis of it having snuggled with them.
mircea_popescu: anyway, without a majority of mule there;d be no young hussies next year period.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ur- was coopted in artspeech to denote a typical or originating example, like trilema is the ur-blog and rome the ur-usg.
asciilifeform bought a bag of sov-era kidz b00kz from the gypsy fleamarker, has been enjoying
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, it means a (nominally) female result of the procreation of donkey inside mare.
mircea_popescu: mula is romanian for a dumb female. used in trilema to denote cazalla's wife, ie a female that is a) aged herself out of the sexual market with b) nothing to show for it who c) nevertheless clings to the theory she has a say in how her life plays and d) has constructed an elaborate ideological infrastructure to accomodate the foregoingt nonsense (generally, a retelling of pantsuitism) alongside e) a social group of her exact
asciilifeform: do i need to buy a thicker dictionary or wut
asciilifeform: what i pay in rent in shitland right now, in 1 yr, would buy a modest house in timis. 2y would buy the house mircea_popescu described ( per his rated figure ). 3 would buy one of those dilapidated palaces.
asciilifeform: point being, i want to convert a pile of soon to be worthless paper, into actual ownership of something ( even as basic as machine to keep the rain out. )
diana_coman: asciilifeform> and you generally can't make massive reworks <- this yes, though I'd be surprised you wouldn't be able to agree with landlord; more like you'll go nuts trying to get what you want from builders, but that's a different story ☟︎
asciilifeform: yea but when you rent a house, orig owner can fail to renew lease, and kick you ☟︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, my point was that you will still be paying "rent" basically; and for 1k in Ro you do get a huge house
asciilifeform: sounds like on anything short of a palace, it is less than my current mains current bill ☟︎
asciilifeform: whatever it is, it would have to be , e.g., 50% ( on a theoretical 50k usd haus ) to even equal asciilifeform's current rent !!
diana_coman: Valoarea impozabilă a clădirii se determină prin înmulţirea suprafeţei construite desfăşurate a acesteia, exprimată în metri pătraţi, cu valoarea impozabilă corespunzătoare, exprimată în lei/mp din tabelul prevăzut de Codul fiscal.
diana_coman: Pentru clădirile rezidenţiale şi clădirile-anexă, aflate în proprietatea persoanelor fizice, impozitul pe clădiri se calculează prin aplicarea unei cote cuprinse între 0,08%-0,2%, asupra valorii impozabile a clădirii. Cota impozitului pe clădiri se stabileşte prin hotărâre a consiliului local.
diana_coman: you mean you pay a tax calculated based on the value of each of your "owned" properties?
diana_coman: ugh, you do know that there is a "property tax" in Romania, right?
asciilifeform: because a good chunk of the attraction is the possbility of not paying rents.
asciilifeform: i'ma have to research, but i'd bet money that it is true. otherwise americans would have snapped up all of the country, and there would not exist such a thing as a 50k-usd house in timis. ☟︎
diana_coman: I guess it might be more of a trouble if there still is that thing with "can't own land" if foreigner, dunno if even still true
diana_coman: anyways, we were talking "something to show as to have where to live" so a few thousands, not exactly suitcase of anything
diana_coman: go with a lawyer, I'd say
asciilifeform: the problem is if you are a foreigner with no legal recourse.
diana_coman: things might have changed but ~6 years ago when I tried (got fed up with the seller being an idiot but that's another story) they were positively NOT wanting a bank anyways; it was some 26k flat ftr
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hmm srsly you can buy a bldg with a suitcase of moolah in ro ?
diana_coman: ahahaha; logically it should be, yeah; but re "where to live" - you can buy a house in some village for a few thousands max, not exactly need bank either so dunno that being a huge trouble in itself; then again, each with their own problems to solve ☟︎
asciilifeform: and lemme guess, you can also 'prove means to live' if you walk in on a leash and owner swears he will feedya
asciilifeform: when i was doing the passport question homework, saw requirement 'prove that you have where to live' and 'prove you have income' . the former requires a title or lease in own human name; the latter - bank acct.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 17:29 mircea_popescu: as a general rule you don't want personal property registered with the fiatistans.
asciilifeform: ( and yes there was mircea_popescu's http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728731 thread . which left me with a flavour of 'real estate ownership ain't even a thing any moar, unless you can personally afford to pay an army' ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: also afaik you still need a saecular bank in the loop to buy real estate there. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there's maybe 3 people who i trust to be physically present in a room where i bring a btc privkey. and none of them live in ro. ☟︎
diana_coman: not sure though why would you actually *need* a bank account in ro
asciilifeform: it's a pederasty that lasts for so long as i have only usa passport.
diana_coman: if you start a business there -does it also get usg-taxed?
diana_coman: o.O you mean they won't open a bank account for you?
mod6: i have a bunch of trb work queued up too -- need to put some effort into that next few weeks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1730923 << it's more or less academic to asciilifeform , who is not a moneyman ☝︎