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asciilifeform: the same outcome is not proof that you are 'doing the same thing'
ben_vulpes: does *not* compile to my requirements, i mean.
asciilifeform: and their reactor controls
asciilifeform: trinque: do you recall the conversation about sov. nuke subs ?
ben_vulpes: compiles to my requirements.
trinque: and this is desirable?
ben_vulpes: the shitty thing doesn't even compile yet
asciilifeform: it is NOT the same thing!
trinque: you're just manually doing the same thing
trinque: so now what if you want to collaborate on a branch
ben_vulpes: attempt to compile et
ben_vulpes: branch, apply patch, run tests in vm
trinque: asciilifeform: something something nose tent
mircea_popescu: trinque honestly im just waiting for them to get buried in more pizza packaging first.
asciilifeform: trinque: do you know the biblical story about the camel's nose ?
nubbins`: i think the original was hyphenated
trinque: but I see the sense of this
trinque: entirely possible to use git or something else for dev, patch process for release
mircea_popescu: you're crazy even with the patch.
nubbins`: anyway alf if you get some spare cycles, can you try my patch & verify that i'm not crazy?
asciilifeform: anyone so much as touching the dangerous patches needs to actually grasp what is going on.
nubbins`: trinque this is sort of like the bible, in that various acid fevers are recorded and some of them end up being canon
asciilifeform: there is also another set, of dangerous patches which may or may not turn into tree candidates.
asciilifeform: that is, ones that made it into the release
asciilifeform: trinque: there is precisely one set of 'official' patches
asciilifeform: trinque: try to understand why.
trinque: but w/e you guys are doing the lifting, yours to decide
trinque: asciilifeform: heh I replied to you there as undata and the opinion still stands
asciilifeform: nubbins`: it is a warning that tells you the fact that YOUR BIN WILL ONLY RUN ON YOUR BOX
nubbins`: it only happened to spit out right after the "cannot find -lssl, -lcrypto"
nubbins`: i haven't verified that you necessarily need to apply the dns snip patch for it to compile on gentoo
asciilifeform: ^ this is absolutely vital to understand.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:34:02; asciilifeform: but i will not be signing any patch that i can't apply with my mind, in my mental model of the code.
trinque: mircea_popescu: talkin bout version control
asciilifeform: ^ mandatory thread
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:31:06; asciilifeform: but the argument here is not about sabotaged ken-thompson-style tools. but about tools that foster intellectual atrophy.
mircea_popescu: we're opposed to retards.
trinque finds tons of talk about venture capitalists :p
mircea_popescu: During the conversation, the UC stated, "We read chemistry books with breakfast. Like, who does that?" VELENTZAS responded, "People who want to make history."
asciilifeform: trinque: excellent question! see thread
asciilifeform: it still gets used when irc-connecting and when attempting to determine external ip from behind nat
trinque: are you gents permanently opposed to vcs?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i must remind readers that my 'dns snip' patch does not remove all usage of dns from bitcoin
trinque: it's going to get pretty difficult to follow along before long
nubbins`: but apparently this only fails (so far) on gentoo.
nubbins`: build script doesn't copy any of the openssl includes or libs to the ourlibs/ directory
nubbins`: others who are trying to build 0.5.3.1 on gentoo should also see above link ^
trinque: just something you see in translations, not that a NY company's manual would be
asciilifeform: 'it is always to be avoided' ?????!
mircea_popescu: you wanted using instead of to use ?
asciilifeform: its english << as written by su mole deep in the british ministry of fucktardation ?
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asciilifeform: 'it is always to be avoided to use numbers as instructions.' << translation from ru? cn ?
mircea_popescu: http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/lgp-30-man.html#R1.00 << ancient manuals are great, but good god the stuff one finds in there
mircea_popescu: wever, it is always to be avoided to use numbers as instructions. Since an instruction word is indistinguishable from a number word, some means must be provided to avoid using numbers as instructions. How this is accomplished is described under "BUILDING A PROGRAM". Also, how we convert from a 2000 to the binary representation shown is discussed later."
mircea_popescu: "The computer has no way of knowing by examining the word itself, whether a word is intended as a number or an instruction. Under most circumstances it is the numbers which are operated on and the instructions which are followed as instruction. The LGP-30 has the ability to operate on instructions as numbers. This ability is not only valuable but a feature which makes for the great power of stored program computers. Ho
nubbins`: asciilifeform i think i've got it
mircea_popescu: make n chain then make reorg
mircea_popescu: punkman the best way to test that sort of thing is on a local testnet with low diff.
asciilifeform: no big deal, not hard to determine.
asciilifeform: what are we looking for, at the bottom of that tank? a golden ring ?
asciilifeform: there is not an easy way to do much of anything.
punkman: is there an easy way to induce an arbitrary-sized chain reorg for testing?
asciilifeform: also writing broadcast (s.nsa) and buncha other things in shiva hands
asciilifeform: in other news, i think i've a fixed-ram-space bitcoind running...
asciilifeform: now i realize it was true. except not outhouse, but pc arch and the whole stack of softs.
asciilifeform: this titanic edifice.
asciilifeform: or how else could hold generations of turds.
asciilifeform: into the ground.
asciilifeform: as a kid i always imagined that the shit tank was bottomless.
asciilifeform: my grandfather had a dacha. it did not come with a toilet, so he built one. outhouse thing, but with an actual toilet that flushed instead of the customary shit pit. this is relevant, because: ☟︎
asciilifeform: (to be fair, pc arch standard is dead and what i said is probably wrong for at least every box in seven on the market.)
asciilifeform: pc owner oughta know that.
mircea_popescu: and then he wrote it all breathlessly and didn't bother to proofread before submitting.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to, whole thing occured to him this morning as he was sitting on shitter and contemplating what a laughingstock he is
asciilifeform: because the dram was never powered down
nubbins`: he must've been plotting this whole time
nubbins`: tbh i forgot about the guy
mircea_popescu: nubbins` funny thing is, ego and intelligence are unrelated variables at birth. plenty of people roll 6-1.
asciilifeform: (whatsthat? little proggy that warmboots machine with small linux and reads dram 0..top to a usb stick.)
nubbins`: "i am so rich that 5000 btc is a mere pittance, but a bunch of forum scamzors will have to collectively shell out ~$10k in airfare in order to unravel the mystery"
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mircea_popescu: there must be some eeprom in the bios that i don't know about.
mircea_popescu: cold cold boot does it. where the fuck does it store its stupid bits alf ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu whoa i didn't read that far.
mircea_popescu: check it out, this is pure rationality. long live bayes!
asciilifeform: for the crime of poaching rare wood, naturally
asciilifeform: know what would be riotously funny? if american 'nature preservation' agency rounded the idiot up and took'im to preet
mircea_popescu: t clue you will need to posses and have all 10 coins in the same physical location. The clues in the coins were crafted in a fashion that you will never find them let alone figure them out via photographs, with x-rays, or in any fashion other than having all the coins in the same location at the same time to solve the puzzle."
mircea_popescu: "I have made and sold 9 2015 wooden physical bitcoins listed below. Each one of those coins has hidden in or on it a part of the puzzle. The key to decoding the first part of that puzzle is coin #10 which after much though is being given to someone whom i already chose from this forum. In order to decode each individual wooden coin you will have to have #10 in its physical presence and in order to solve the entire firs
nubbins`: forged in a time when men were men and haters left wood carvers alone
mircea_popescu: " Inside that container is 1,000 bronze bitcoins"
mircea_popescu: but why add credence to idiocy.
nubbins`: tempted to move 5k coins and post tx in the thread claiming that i've found the capsule ;/
nubbins`: nevermind that the entire concept is ludicrous
nubbins`: anyway i guess the dude saw my auction and got jealous
nubbins`: you're not born with all the stupidity you'll ever have
asciilifeform: not a finite count of it in the vessel
nubbins`: asciilifeform i don't think he can produce a good story -- that much is obvious -- but it'd be nice for him to condense his stupidity into a single volume that could be burned
mircea_popescu: ok, trying this one for my own curio