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mircea_popescu: like if i behead you i might not get any pancreas tissue on the blade.
decimation: ^ascii, one wonders if you can replace the 'failsafe'
asciilifeform: and the schneiers
mircea_popescu: it is possible he never had any through no fault of his own.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it -is- possible that he had some but none made it past the greenwalds
asciilifeform: 'There are actually two copies of the bootloader in the NOR flash: the first one is failsafe, and doing bootloaderupdate will replace the second image. Basically after the CPU comes out of reset, it boots the failsafe bootloader image (the first one) in the NOR flash. The failsafe finds and boots the actual bootloader image (the second one) in the NOR flash. This bootloader then loads the kernel from the USB drive and boots it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's not a bad point.
asciilifeform: also note how there is none of this (or the other let's-sell-boobietrapped-goods-to-persians) 'shartups') in the snowden releases.
asciilifeform: it sold routers that gave very reasonable performance for 1/20th the cost of cisco et al
mircea_popescu: For auld lang syne, for love, for years and years of faithful service, duty done, I weep. Lay down thy packet, now, O friend, and sleep.
mircea_popescu: It was the first, and being first, was best, but now we lay it down to ever rest. Now pause with me a moment, shed some tears.
asciilifeform: i think i can see why ubiquiti was picked for this particular role in the usg shitgnome muppet theatre
decimation: none on /opt/vyatta/config type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,nr_inodes=300000,mode=775)
decimation: asciilifeform: they have weird stuff mounted for storing configs:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is why the patches have to stay unpublished.
asciilifeform: to the extent they were not already raped in the 'liberty bsd' piece and in this here thread
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: worth your while for the epic public rape of the morons
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have/had plans to acquire one
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo you have one somewhere iirc ? try this
mircea_popescu: no i saw that.
asciilifeform: one doesn't need an expert usgologist to say what happened here.
asciilifeform: ^ lulzies! they very much don't want you replacing that uboot.
asciilifeform: 'As evidence, consider that in version 5.5.4 of the AirMax firmware, the kernel was modified such that the MTD partitions would be read only, however this change cannot be found in the corresponding kernel patches or source.'
asciilifeform: a standard jtag probe of whatever kind you're partial to (i like 'bus blaster') and a copy of openocd is all you need
asciilifeform: uboot on this box lives, apparently, in nor flash
asciilifeform: why they did this - cannot say. possibly the responsible man last used linux in 1997
decimation: and it starts at 2048, so that's probably the bootloader?
asciilifeform: sda1 contains the kernel
asciilifeform: (how old one behaves with regards to replacing uboot, i cannot say)
decimation: interesting here's the partition layout
asciilifeform: access uboot from the serial console, or, if replacing with another uboot, do so from the new os
asciilifeform: back it up (or replace with another) and put new os on that.
asciilifeform: just pull the usb
decimation: yeah I think I have one somewhere
asciilifeform: decimation: it goes into the rj45 jack on the left.
asciilifeform: and i think someone else ( danielpbarron ? )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nubbins` was able to replicate result.
ben_vulpes: perhaps i am behind the times, but is there a buildroot config that's been passed around?
decimation: yeah, I'm not sure where to probe
asciilifeform gets out the serial cable, indignant
asciilifeform: or hm, uboot is in the nor flash...
decimation: but then I would need a mips64 build host
asciilifeform: decimation: it has the whole orchestra, minus a very small and possibly interesting micro-bootloader that loads uboot - iirc - on it
asciilifeform: decimation: pull the usb drive
decimation: asciilifeform: ugh, the ubquiti os has hardly any tools
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand, nobody's denying men will go to the end of the earths. they will. but only with fredericus.
asciilifeform: decimation: this, among other reasons, is why i live in a particular not altogether-pleasant place..
ben_vulpes: "navigate the buildroot menuconfig"
ben_vulpes: chapter two in assquest:
decimation: ^ why? because you don't want to ship your strange
mircea_popescu: so what if they did.
mircea_popescu: not if the fucking polar bears are.
asciilifeform: and why does a reverse engineer need to travel anyway
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is it because most folks need fallback employment if a job falls through? sure - but if a craftsman is needed badly, he will go on tour to antarctica. so long as the costs are covered.
pete_dushenski: "it's too smelly to fly"
assbot: BA flight forced to land early because of smelly poo - BBC Newsbeat ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8Aj0I )
pete_dushenski: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31908620 << this, is a new one for me
mircea_popescu: just like tewkwhatever, mass can't get security experts.
mircea_popescu: no, they could not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact remains, they could get reversers. it's just another kind of craftsman, like heart surgeon. they would simply have to pay the fee
mircea_popescu: because, there's like eight of them, and none of them have time for our stupid shit.
Vexual: despite the botox, still very expressive
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought the pattern was, 'don't need men, only their dough' ?
mircea_popescu: "good thing we don't need men"
mircea_popescu: yeah, right. do you know what the fat feminist said to the other fat feminist ?
asciilifeform: because the only industry is meat processing ?
assbot: #243 – An interview with Macrofab – Macro Manufacturing Mechanization | The Amp Hour Electronics Podcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8zMMq )
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.theamphour.com/243-an-interview-with-macrofab-macro-manufacturing-mechanization/ < interview with macrofab guys, with details of exactly what they use (Universal GSM2 pick n place)
mircea_popescu: you think there exists anyone competent working in argentina, for instance ?
Vexual: you know, when i saw it first, i thought it was meant to be glenn stevens
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ubiquiti example dovetails nicely with the thread re: unemployed reversers. if persians happily buy turdware, they either haven't many, or haven't any competent ones, or they are all occupied with something else (what ?)
decimation: asciilifeform: ah so does it only tftp on boot?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. but it is the historical repository.
asciilifeform: decimation: iirc they all use the same uboot, which was the item in question
asciilifeform: though i hesitate to let ietf be a canonical copy of anything at this point - even this...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato, had no idea it lived there
assbot: RFC 439 - PARRY encounters the DOCTOR ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8z8yg )
asciilifeform: ELIZA: What makes you think I am entitled to my own opinion?
asciilifeform: PARRY: You're entitled to your own opinion.
mircea_popescu: certainly. most of gdp in the "service economy" is exactly akin to running a bunch of elizas at each other.
assbot: When PARRY Met ELIZA: A Ridiculous Chatbot Conversation From 1972 — The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1C8yDEq )
asciilifeform: betcha the bots are happy to speak with one another.
mircea_popescu: "if you conceivably have to forward my stuff to anyone, get off the line, i'm important."
mircea_popescu: this strange idea that people would discuss things with script robots.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell decimation before you ceremonially burn that thing, or put openbsd on it, etc. consider posting the u-boot partition to #b-a warez (talk to kakobrekla?)
asciilifeform: usg contractor supplying boobytrapped goodies to the untermenschen
asciilifeform: 'From my conversations with Ubiquiti, I have found that they claimed that it's alright to refuse to provide source code to GPL-licensed software if "This decision was taken with the security of the users in mind". Furthermore, my conversations were endlessly delayed by the supposed necessity to forward my query to another, unnamed, team.' << now we can probably say what. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i am quite certain of having seen something quite like this before. and i knew that ~x
mircea_popescu: spam masquerading error reports nao, the world simply can't exist w/o wots.
mircea_popescu: i mean the specific "error are you x" thing.
asciilifeform: they used to follow a similar pattern, e.g., 'this post is a very astute commentary on the subject, i should like to read another like it, please carry on the good work' etc.
mircea_popescu: i dun think i saw this set b4.
asciilifeform: i get idiocy like this all the time.
mircea_popescu: finally spam text that looked credible.
mircea_popescu: today ... "For some reason or another, I can't see all of this content, it keeps disappearing? Are you taking advantage of java?"
assbot: O hai. I was justing doing a penetration test of your site. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1aErKnM )
asciilifeform: in a production machine, 'uboot' should skip straight to loading from nand
asciilifeform: still saves time and wear on the nand vs flashing it in every time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc he hammered in the command every time into the serial console
asciilifeform: in which case it will certainly ask for tftp every time on boot.