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BingoBoingo: Chillum: Probably could be stronger if you take a sentence from Kritik de Rheinen Vernuft and replace 10 of he words in sentence with diceware determined words.
Chillum: I thought so
Chillum: we can remember concepts at much higher information levels than random strings
Chillum: the idea is that humans can remember more entropy when it is in a story form
Chillum: I saw a nice talk about a password creator that created small sentence fragments from very long lists of words. The user could enter the words in any order and with known mispellings and it would still pass. All while making sure you get the requested entropy
Chillum: though the vowel consonant grouping is a bit suspicious
mats: about to
hanbot: is this entropy-logic?
Chillum: given that the code in question was a machine generated e-mail verification code I would say you should start eating someones pet
Chillum: good to know
whaack: i use word lists for passwords, i have a decent understanding of information theory
Chillum: well, you could move your face away from me if that helps
mats: jesus, reading your text makes my face hurt Chillum
whaack: that's the verification code for my email
Chillum: using numbers only adds entropy when you randomly selecty them from the same set as the letters
hanbot: if there's 10^26 bits of entropy in that thing I will eat someone's pet.
trinque: whaack: so I might have a theory on why you can't keep your nicks
Chillum: good password though
asciilifeform goes to eat things
Chillum: on the internet, nobody knows you are a dog
asciilifeform: my pet is following along this thread.
Chillum: I play tame
Chillum: I am not tame either. I am insidious
asciilifeform: then perhaps Chillum is the pet ?
mircea_popescu: ever showed her this place ?
Chillum: my wife is not tame
mircea_popescu: it happens to exactly match the earlier female survival discussion.
Chillum: the thing is
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't subscribe to alf's definitino.
asciilifeform: Chillum: a tame creature you keep around because enjoy its company.
Chillum: I suppose your advantage in this debate comes from your failure to define what you think pet means
trinque: asciilifeform | perhaps this was done, and i am lsd cat << LOL
Chillum: if she is a pet then so am I
mircea_popescu: methinks your theory may have some holes in it.
asciilifeform: perhaps this was done, and i am lsd cat
mircea_popescu: so if i feed lsd to a cat it's gonna make a good wife ?
Chillum: though it is well established that nobody can prove their own self awareness
mircea_popescu: so they claim.
mircea_popescu: that's par for the course.
mircea_popescu: everyone is barely aware of their own existence.
BingoBoingo: <Chillum> asciilifeform: she contributes to the household, our cats do not << Do they neglect their anti-vermin duties?
mircea_popescu: a pet doesn't have to be idle.
Chillum: never known a cat to help pay the rent
Chillum: asciilifeform: she contributes to the household, our cats do not
mircea_popescu: Chillum likely you just use the term in a particular way i don't.
whaack: BingoBoingo: I actually just never got the email that I needed to verify with. Reregistered and I still don't have the email.
mircea_popescu: you think the cats are your pets ?!
Chillum: so getting along with someone makes them a pet? I think you skipped some logical steps there
asciilifeform: who, then, is the pet
mircea_popescu: are you saying the emperor's naked ?
Chillum: "all the proper females ARE pets in good homes"... ever had a wife?
asciilifeform: i wish them a speedy arrival at this step.
mircea_popescu: enter the world of abundance!
mircea_popescu: they transcended that.
mircea_popescu: cost is a figment of the scarcity world.
mircea_popescu: not that admission is likely forthcoming.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, all the proper females ARE pets in good homes. the remainder are like unemployed "employees" that are not so much unemployed as wilfully *unemployable*.
mircea_popescu: all is right with the world then.
mircea_popescu: well good for them!
asciilifeform: haskell, ml, the shebang
asciilifeform: it is called 'lazy evaluation' and is sop in the academiplague languages
mircea_popescu: lacan & co efforts to build an alt-physics didn't manage to do much, but mebbe it works in alt-cs?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is ahead of the game as usual:
mircea_popescu: you know, alligned with the entire irigaray " e = mc^2 is a sexed equation"
mircea_popescu: rather than proceed from an imperative cause towards a computation
mircea_popescu: a processor that looks at what the EFFECTS of a computation would be
mircea_popescu: how long before the current processor (that acts from cause) is replaced with a new architecture, more femfriendly ?
assbot: Logged on 07-05-2014 03:00:40; mircea_popescu: this is like having a 40 yo chick come to you for dancing lessons and you telling her "missing ingredient is you being 20". why tyvm, mr expert guy!
mircea_popescu: incidentally, it occurs to me : clearly the femspeak for male being "sociopath", ie, one who does not care about the consequences (this is the basis of the rape debate - men will fuck women for a cause, women wish to fuck towards a purpose), and the problem with "women in tech" being the aridity of the field to the femstyle,
assbot: Logged on 07-05-2014 03:02:32; mircea_popescu: if you have 20 bux spare you'll get a manicure, maybe you find some guy that's not an asshoel.
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if all the currently existing ones are pets in good homes. e.g, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#663930 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ie, the ones that actually give a shit.
mircea_popescu: probably all those that are really female deep down.
asciilifeform is presently wondering whether, if mircea_popescu's prescription 'be young and female' were an actual algorithm that folks could -execute- - how many would
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: whaack why would nickserv drop an account ? i never heard of this. << They drop registrations after just a few weeks of disuse, because Freenode
asciilifeform: the fact of the matter appears to be (ben_vulpes and his experiment, etc) that the folks who pay for ads are largely the old cargo cultists and have very little to do with bitcoin, for perfectly logical reasons of it being a bugspray against their species
asciilifeform: ad bid board << i had this idea, probably like everybody else
asciilifeform: old net was gated. gossipnet - likewise gates. we, today - a perverse interregnum.
mircea_popescu: but i wouldn't sign off on him being beaten because tcp/ip sucks.
mircea_popescu: which is why that is a better design.
asciilifeform: but in ip-over-gossip net, yes, pwned machine is solely the owner's grief, like his stolen bicycle.
asciilifeform: i live in the lands of beautiful freedom, where folks throw trash from moving cars etc
mircea_popescu: but if he's forced to enforce your interest
asciilifeform: or, in world of tomorrow - he, to avoid beatings.
mircea_popescu: so WE would need his app to security ?
asciilifeform: and we so much need more of these.
asciilifeform: at the very least, it becomes a ddos drone
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-04-2015#1095500 << he gave you a fine example tho. so someone hijacks his idle camera ? whatevs. ☝︎
trinque: and "they're all shit" is seen in many other parts of the US economy
trinque: my end of that thread was that they're all shit
mircea_popescu: is that a reference to the rape article ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, too bad.
Chillum: too bad advertising is one of the greatest evils going
mircea_popescu: i am fortunate in that having been here a while, my ideas are already facts, so i can fall back on that lol.
Chillum: glad I was able to help you put your ideas into works
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform methinks you might be seeing too much in there.
Chillum: I said no account everyone gets some ad time
Chillum: you said people would have an account, goes to the highest bidder
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ... dude, why so disdainful ? if you don't trust people you don't know on the basis of what they write << because i can see the hallmarks of educated mendacity. the man, whoever he is, knows that i know the history. and pretends otherwise, and that he has some sort of 'lesson' for old ignorant me. i know the type, they infest (or once did) my comments section.
mircea_popescu: "specify bitmap and time interval. goes to highest bidder."