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trinque: my comment was sarcastic; I'm sure
there are
those at MIT
that can manage a lightbulb
mats: trinque: underestimating dangerous people is how clever folks get killed all
the
time.
ben_vulpes: "Regular expressions cannot respect a language's syntax (detect false positives short a full parser)" <<
this strikes me as a special case of
the "cannot simulate a universe without a universe" claim.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but anyway, moocs are made for
the wiki generation of broken heads, and a necessary outgrowth from
the brokedness baked in
the pseudo-encyclopedism.
ben_vulpes: eerie parallel
to
the "disqualifying bad
teachers"
thread.
mircea_popescu: the kid who wants
to go "in all directions" just ends up making wall pizza
mircea_popescu: this is of course silly, in
the abstract. in practice, it's
the only way
to have research, by cutting paths out of
the unknown.
mircea_popescu: the scientific method exists
to provide support for research BY DENYING RESEARCH.
that's all it does : marks wide swaths of perfectly valid human inquiry with a
tar brush reading "STUPID SHIT WE DONT CARE LALALA"
trinque: mats:
the US is literally idiocracy
throughout
mircea_popescu: for
that matter, another important hook is
the scientific method. (kuhn's book on
the
topic is absolutely required here, and really it's 100 pages or some shit.)
mats: i'm headed out in a bit
to check out some MIT exhibits
mircea_popescu: take enough of
these you will never ever know anything.
mircea_popescu: which brings us back
to my point :
tourist in kenya is not more knowledgeable on "the country of africa"
than obama. guy
that went
through "mooc introduction
to chemistry" has NOT been introduced
to chemistry.
mircea_popescu: travel is not
tourism.
travel is when you have pregnancy scares with local women
that do not speak your language.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel if you wish
the path analogy, moocs are like
tourists :
they go "to a foreign country", spend
their
time between local mcdonalds and local starbucks in
the "idiot foreigners" quarter.
mircea_popescu: mats nice spring here
too, which means cooler o.O and for some reason
they call spring autumn.
mircea_popescu: for a learner
to learn it, it's not enough for chemistry
to "be".
mircea_popescu: this can not be fixed by making
the path itself different. it is outside
the path. yes chemistry is
the same.
mircea_popescu: same must be provided for you elsewhere for your learning
to be a path.
mircea_popescu: in abstract fields, no gravity
to be your cruel mistress.
mircea_popescu: irl,
there exists such a
thing as gravity. you can't float broadly over a path. gravity pushes you down into it.
gabriel_laddel: While I
think
that
the whole submitting
to a
teacher
thing is important in some cases, we have 100ks of people running
through e.g., introductory chemistry courses.
There are only so many paths
to walk.
mircea_popescu: see,
THAT is fundamental. what you're describing is not fundamental in any sense, but merely
technical. which may be whats' wrong with
them, for
that matter
mircea_popescu: becoming something in
the style of wikipedia : a great way
to batten down
the ignorance of users. after a mooc
they're just as ignorant as before, but now it's much harder
to fix.
mircea_popescu: in
trying
to insulate
the learner from
the hot core of education (the rape), moocs succeed in educating
the learner from education altogether,
mircea_popescu: they purport
to be learner-driven.
this is as idiotic as it gets. education works in
the following stages : learner picks a
teacher
TO SUBMIT
TO, blindly.
teacher rapes
the learner.
this is education.
gabriel_laddel: Let's say
that you sign up for a course. You cannot possibly learn anything interesting because
they've got
to execute all code in
the browser, or barring
that, you're aping youtube videos.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, i could
tell you what's fundamentally broken with
them :
gabriel_laddel: Completion rate is really irrelevent,
the problem is
that
they've created
this new "format" and books are still superior.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how it matters. a school which
takes 100 7yos, produces 86 dead 18 yos and 14 sane 18yos is best school.
mircea_popescu: in
the "completion rate" sense, esp if ill defined, b-a is a failure.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "MOOCS (massively open online courses and
the like) have failed due
to fundamental issues with
their
technical perspective - a perspective shared by nearly
the entire fiat world. New frontiers have opened, Masamune provides a
technical foundation for mission critical programmes of
the future."
mircea_popescu: the nj dudes were just wasps, an irrelevant, far removed margin of
the idiocy pie.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you wish
to blame someone for
the new jersey approach, blame constantine. it is HIS fault he stopped
throwing idiots
to
the lions.
mircea_popescu: because yeah,
totally, good-evil duality, most important
thing
that happened. was
tom cruise in
that ?
gabriel_laddel: It is
the good sword. However in
the game I stole
the reference from - it was
the sword of
the villain.
mircea_popescu: funny
that all
the west knows of a millennium of craftsmanship perfection and perhaps
the matrix for all human accomplishment is "but which was
the bad one".
gabriel_laddel: unless I give someone
the direct link, as in here
they'll only see it from
that code path.
ben_vulpes: i
think it's a note for people reading via
the repository browser
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell gabriel_laddel "If you're reading
this on github
there is a more attractive HTML version here." but "here" IS on github. subdomain.gutrot.io
trinque: ben_vulpes: it's still all out
there
trinque: easy
to verify whether it did
too
trinque: not saying
the old one didn't work, just wasn't my work
mircea_popescu: no need for a knote. who knowsn knowsn and who doesn't know better go suck some cocks
to find out.
mircea_popescu: craftsman allowed
to put a history mark in
there, <hr /> is quite reasoanble actually.
ben_vulpes: at
the same
time...it's la serenissima's list of deeds.
the notary in question is somewhat irrelevant.
ben_vulpes: if you want
to, deliniate with an <hr /> and a note.
trinque: I just didn't run
the old one, so was going
to maybe mark
these as having come from
the old
thing
mircea_popescu: remember ? people can spend
the dust ? so you or anyone knows what address proves any claim ?
mircea_popescu: the address
they COME FROM dun matter, just
the address
they GO
TO
trinque: ben_vulpes: strictly speaking it's not, except
to answer
the question "were
these supposed
to come from a different address?"
mircea_popescu: i don't get why you'd do anythin other
than a db import
ben_vulpes: did
the encoding of deed bundle -> addr hash change between your and punkman's versions of
the
thing?
trinque: I'll just add a "from" address column, which is always
the same for new bundles, but will be
the old address for
these
ben_vulpes: more rows at
the bottom of
the
table, with block, addr and bundle.
mircea_popescu: yeah,
they were published in certain blocks, you/re not re-deeding
them
trinque: publish
them like
they're new docs, and put an additional doc in
there saying "hey here are
the original
txns for
these"
trinque: ben_vulpes: I could just make another deed with
the original
transaction data
too
mats: is
there a direct equivalent for docview in vim?
ben_vulpes: do you
think it'd be adequate
to publish
the block,
the address and
the bundle in
the same
table on deedbot.org?
trinque: arguably
this is
the first
time
this deedbot has seen any of
these docs, so I don't
think it makes sense
to use old
transactions as
the
timestamp
ben_vulpes: well
the embedding
transactions already went out
ben_vulpes: buuh you and his popescuity have a better handle on
the
thing
trinque: is
that what's desired, or should I involve
the old
transactions somehow
trinque: ben_vulpes: as I understand it I'll just
take
the old deeds and re-bundle
them?
trinque: doing some work atm but I'll make sure
that happens
this afternoon
trinque: ben_vulpes: yeah I have
time
today
ben_vulpes: it's be stellar
to have
them in place before con3.
ben_vulpes: ey
trinque, d'you have
time
to get
the legacy deeds in
this weekend?
ben_vulpes: bigger deal
than
the declaration of sovereignty.
trinque: regendering << what a
time
to be alive
gabriel_laddel: I'm not saying
that it will happen, merely planning for
the unlikely
ben_vulpes: the most
that'll happen is
that you'll get patches regendering
the codebase.
☟︎