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williamdunne: To each his own, while its certainly not a WoT it seems useful
to me
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 03:19:44; asciilifeform: 'You have
to do basic science on your libraries
to see how
they work,
trying out different inputs and seeing how
the code reacts.'
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 03:19:43; asciilifeform: sussman, surrendering
to decay:
felipelalli: williamdunne:
this was for me
the icing on
the cake.
felipelalli: williamdunne: "Oh, I was wondering
the other day. What caused
the removal of options from MPEX?" << I wonder
the same.
felipelalli: !rate mircea_popescu 2 "his articles are great and fully of
truth"
williamdunne: Is
the source for
the WoT available? If I have some free
time I'd like
to
take a crack at making it more readable
williamdunne: Oh, I was wondering
the other day. What caused
the removal of options from MPEX?
williamdunne: Yes I can remember reading something by you about
the stupidity of beautiful code
mircea_popescu: "
The ability
to incrementally develop programs (featured in
the first video) has been a cornerstone feature of Lisp since
the 80s (or earlier). " << you know
this is
the only way i like
to program in
the rare cases i actually do ?
williamdunne: However
that sort of
tomfoolery might lose you your "slightly smoky dragon" award
mircea_popescu: "mpex is from
the future. you need internet exploder 28
to view its css v 9 1/3"
mircea_popescu: i should probably put a "if you don't see
the css, please get
the latest version of your browser"
williamdunne: "how do i use mpex - i
think
the css is broken1"
mircea_popescu: dux, more properly said. "interface with
the stupid users". while i see a clear reason why all women should
twerk, whether
they like
to or not, i see no reason any computer should ever
twerk, whether women want
them
to or not.
williamdunne: Well yes, most of
the
time
they
take it overboard and it ends up being a suicidal ordeal
mircea_popescu: and i could go on but whatevs. not like we're writing
the encyclopedia of stupid.
mircea_popescu: fifth,
the "web designer community" is ~= vc bezzle. it has exactly nothing
to do with
the web, relevancy,
the future or anything else.
mircea_popescu: fourth, js was never a significant or worthy of mention part of
the web, at no stage in its lifecycle and certainly not during "infancy".
mircea_popescu: first off,
the ios bs is no
thread
to
the web. second off,
the web's reach was never a major factor.
third off,
the web is failing, on its dismerits, but
those have exactly nothing
to do with javascript.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, mod6 (others
tracking
the DNS seed
thread as well): i'd like
to hear from you all as well
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what are your current
thoughts on initial nodes for RI's running on
the pogo?
ben_vulpes: <ascii_modem> ben_vulpes: what did mit do, eat your cat? << 'tis a
tentacle of
the beast slithering out of
the lake, seeking
to fasten its suckers onto and drag under
those who'd otherwise fight by my side
ben_vulpes: <whaack> ((changes resume
to name, bitcoin address, and gpg key)) << you only have
the one addr, and plan
to
tell folks about it?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> well here's
to not. << happens
to all of us, no sense derping about when or under what conditions.
mircea_popescu: and
to never pass on a good sexist joke : real women,
too.
ben_vulpes: does actually know how
to leverage meatwot for work, could probably put a bolt action
together, but
that's about it.
mircea_popescu: (pro
tip : if you get your job from
the hr dept you suck. real men get
their jobs from
the ceo.)
mircea_popescu: and aspires
to a job
to be obtained
through an interview with hr.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes and
this person was under 30, and had never
taken a virgin asshole, or planted a
tree or butchered as much as a rabbit, couldn't put
together a disassembled weapon of
their choice if
they had
the whole day
ben_vulpes: somehow
to
this person body and brain are separate
things.
this person who's never actually watched
the
terminal
trainwreck of cascading failures.
mircea_popescu: So, in a bid
to remain relevant in a world
that didn't want
their products, 3D Labs showed up
to a Game Developer Conference wielding presentations for something
they called "OpenGL 2.0".
This would be a complete, from-scratch rewrite of
the OpenGL API. And
that makes sense;
there was a lot of cruft in OpenGL's API at
the
time (note:
that cruft still exists). Just look at how
texture loading and binding work; it's semi
mircea_popescu: See, 3D Labs was a dying company.
Their expensive GPUs were being marginalized by NVIDIA's increasing pressure on
the workstation market. And unlike NVIDIA, 3D Labs did not have any presence in
the mainstream market; if NVIDIA won,
they died.
ben_vulpes: had an amusing conversation with a "transhumanist"
the other day about life extension. counterparty had
the notion
that somehow we'd seen
the limits of
the body but not
the limits of
the brain. i asked if
this person had actually ever watched an elderly person go
through
terminal decline, and
the answer was of course "no".
ben_vulpes: and
the second
to pass while i'm in argentina, if
things do play out
that way.
ben_vulpes: this is
the last biological one i have
ben_vulpes: specifically #bitcoin-assets, and
that only
this year.
mircea_popescu: (much funnier in romanian, where sfrr is an onomatopeia for sizzle, as in a steak's sizzle, and
thus implicitly a pars pro
toto reference
to "servants, friends, riches, reputation", ie
the steak's sizzle.)
mircea_popescu: "So what is power? According
to our friend
Thomas Hobbes: servants, friends, riches, reputation, success, affability, nobility, eloquence, and being handsome." sheeit i had forgotten
that definition.
mircea_popescu: "if only you were a sheep" "but i'm
to big
to be a sheep!" "nevertheless" "but sheep don't get milk anyway" "well...
they're in
the general area of where cheese is made..."
mircea_popescu: sort-of like
the bear wondering why he's not getting any milk and
the shepherd dogs bark.
mircea_popescu: and if you don't put
them in, hell, you'll sit and wodner why is it eliezer potterboy "gets funding" and why is it
that
the retarded seem
to be particularly offended at whatever you happened
to write last.
assbot: Logged on 11-04-2015 19:14:20; ben_vulpes:
the most
that'll happen is
that you'll get patches regendering
the codebase.
assbot: Logged on 11-04-2015 17:09:13; mats:
this kinda con is on chapter one in
the playbook
whaack: ((changes resume
to name, bitcoin address, and gpg key))
whaack: your words hit hard, gonna copy
that one
whaack: right
this is something I've realized / been coming
to
terms with only recently
mircea_popescu: if you allow
them
to respect you on
their own
terms you end up buying into
their stupidity sooner or later.
mircea_popescu: well, kinda poisoned. you don't generally want
the respect of ignorant people on
their own
terms, but on yours.
whaack: so, if for whatever reason I want
the respect of an ignorant person, I may reveal
to
them
that I go
to MIT
whaack: I'm saying
that some ignorant people exalt
those who go
to MIT
mircea_popescu: i go
to fratelli icecream parlour, does
that insult you ?
mircea_popescu: what exactly would be insulting about you going
to mit ?
mircea_popescu: well if you do it inappropriately it may well command
the disdain of
thinking people.
whaack: so instead of "he's dumb at least some
times, apparently.." you may want
to
think "is
this fucker insulting me?"
whaack: so revealing I go
to MIT, for
the most part, commands
the respect of ignorant people
mircea_popescu: you can be
the dean of aids-is-cured-by-raping-virgin-infants university of harare for all i care.
mircea_popescu: moreover,without specific cause, why would i judge
the affairs of another
to begin with ?
mircea_popescu: anyway,
to answer
the general question : biases are a statistic concept,
they are meaningful when discussing groups, not individuals. for all i know you're
there
to
troll
them, or
the only pipe you can get water
to your house in happens
to be rusted, what are you
to do, be without water at all ? gotta wash etc.
whaack: So... do you hold it against me for even revealing
that I'm a student
there?
mircea_popescu: even if
they appear smart,
that flaw is hard
to wash. "he's dumb at least some
times, apparently..."
mircea_popescu: still, a significant bias against anyone
that offers
their being a mit graduate does attach. one necessarily
thinks "so
this kid is dumb or what."
mircea_popescu: used
to be. not anymore,
thanks
to wot etc, but myeah.
hanbot: brandworld problems.
the moment people care more about being associated with
the group
than doing
the group's work, groupname is a lost cause.
mircea_popescu: than with no conjugal arrangements
to speask of and institutionally abused people ("but you don't know mit like i do!")
whaack: now we're going
to excuse everyone on
the grounds
that hey, no matter how badly
the perceptible mit sucks,
there's a really cool meta-mit ? << basically, yes
mircea_popescu: now we're going
to excuse everyone on
the grounds
that hey, no matter how badly
the perceptible mit sucks,
there's a really cool meta-mit ?
mircea_popescu: i am saying
that historically kids
that could add were excused from having
to express
themselves on
the very flimsy grounds
that "hey, not like
they went
to vassar,
they're
technical minds". hence
the humanities-technicals division.
whaack: so now we're split in
three,
technical, humanities AND podium shenanigans ? << I'm confused what you're saying
mircea_popescu: division of labour is one
thing.
thought however... now
that's indivisible.
mircea_popescu: so now we're split in
three,
technical, humanities AND podium shenanigans ?
whaack: because if you are deeply invested in research you have no
time for
the podium shenanagins, so it logically follows
that
those who are not deeply invested in research are
the ones who do have
time for podium shenanagins
whaack: About half
the students don't show up
to
this stuff, and when
they do it's just because it's a place
to socialize while someone is rambling in
the background
whaack: right, but you collect a lot of people into
the group "mit"
The people who are in charge of running
the quasi-religious graduation ceremony are logically always going
to be
the ones who are not pursuing interesting shit
mircea_popescu: an earthworm
taped
to an empty box at
the grocer's is at least unrelated
to academia, rather
than
the exact opposite of it.
they would have been better served by
the earthworm.
mircea_popescu: a more grievous insult
to what mit aims
to pretend it is could not be devised. even if
they invited elena ceausescu
to hold
that podium.