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mircea_popescu: i can't conceive how this can occur. how can it occur ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think your response to apeloyee is correct actually, when you call with the same item you're fucking yourself. BUT!
a111: Logged on 2017-11-30 16:00 asciilifeform: reminds of : ''I was such a pure and terrifying Aryan that they even put me in a special detachment. Its mission was to find out how the Jews always knew what the S.S. was going to do next There was a leak somewhere, and we were out to stop it' He looked bitter and affronted, remembering it, even though he had been that leak. 'Was the detachment successful in its mission?' I said. 'I'm happy to say,' said Arpad, 'that fourteen S.S. m
asciilifeform: ( as i understand quite uncommon for them to actually own house or land etc. tho this was an older d00d, possibly -- owned something )
asciilifeform: as i understand it is a traditional punishment in incastans. ye olde su had it.
asciilifeform: but meanwhile in world of entomology, https://i.imgur.com/SJMeCBU.jpg
ben_vulpes: and in other hn headlines: "five ways to fix statistics" (nature.com) huh fascinating! i hadn't realized that /statistics/ was broken, i was laboring under the impression that it was the /heads/ that were broken.
lobbes: phf aha nice easter egg with a specific search term in btcbase.org. I'll leave it unmentioned so others may have the joy of stumbling on it :)
asciilifeform: i get empty page
mod6: I'll try see about finding a new gnat laying around and try that.
mod6: Ok, I commented out the four restrictions that it complained about then : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FaQpe/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ( prolly i oughta lose the last 2 at least, tasking is already off )
mod6: ah. maybe this one is too old. i'll work on that.
asciilifeform: i tested on gnu's, but 2016
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: item XI in http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic refers to i suspect an unrenumbered X
mircea_popescu: i... guess.
mircea_popescu: can't say i exactly get it either, but it wasn't teh usians so what exactly is lefty.
asciilifeform: i dun get it, what was the ru aspect
mircea_popescu: the above. "E1337 : i dunno how to evaluate if you're right".
mircea_popescu: i dunno how to evaluate yet if you're right.
mircea_popescu: (i guess this isn't obvious to anyone but me, but obviously once the item is in chan the very first next extension is "now let it take a list of urls in paste from user")
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 23:44 phf: well, scratch that, i'm just ranting. once you have the setup, it's a pretty smooth operation i suppose. i just don't want to bother with the whole backing up the internet thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa that was prolly some time before wilson, so i never saw
mircea_popescu: i dunno if anyone remembers, BUT! there was a point in earth's history when what chick said was not automatically dumb.
asciilifeform: in '99 the net was still something that 'hm, i'ma turn on modem, dial, sync my newsreader, then it's yer turn, brother' etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in so far as i can tell, having access to actual comp is not necessarily good for a kid
BingoBoingo: 7th grade computer reintoduced (Mac Classic I) as "typewriter substitute"
mircea_popescu: the latter i expect will be the "x switch" folk.
mircea_popescu: i recall that story ye.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the concept of "programming" in a sense other than direct memory write was something i had to deliberately learn against inclination. like mult table, about the same time. "wtf is this bs and why am i writing words"
asciilifeform: i had the borland pascal
mircea_popescu: phf pascal was huge letdown for me, either didn't have or i didn't know how to get to the direct memory diddle.
phf: mircea_popescu: actually that's probably more correct, i have vague memory of doing xor in pascal maybe to do leet vga graphixxx
asciilifeform: even on c64 ( 1980s micro popular in the west ) it was pretty simple. was my 1st comp in usa, and i wrote a cyrillic thing, but useless ( what to read! )
phf: well, i was placed straight into 300 levels, but i recall 311 being fast and loose with actual teaching.
phf: asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure i've not even seen xor mentioned at umd. i learned about it first and last at evening math school in moscow
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think it's because computing class is postodctoral, whereas language class is highschool. so they learn the x:=a a:=b b:=x "trick" way before anyone even explains xor.
asciilifeform: phf: it may interest you to know that i dun have any fancy setup, beyond e.g. wget -m -r ...
mircea_popescu: i saw it, it offended me.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: That's about what I figured, but in case you were unaware.
mircea_popescu: TomServo i count that like i count microsoft windows offering. it's the anti-item. gia is all about fucking, not all about being a dork.
phf: but that's in the "i just want to" territory, so tough.
phf: well, scratch that, i'm just ranting. once you have the setup, it's a pretty smooth operation i suppose. i just don't want to bother with the whole backing up the internet thing ☟︎
phf: i believe the only correct solution at this point are terabyte backup drives with everything you ever touch, i suppose that's what asciilifeform's been doing for a while now
asciilifeform: i would have guessed 'starved, lost server' but ~something~ is still hosting that pg
TomServo: I can barely fit a bite in my mouth.
TomServo: asciilifeform: 3 of what ? << 3 reasons to not leave myself voiced while I'm clumsily reading scrollback, I suppose.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I sorted out some ada implementation and will post it; atm the struggle is more to figure out the "test vectors" for full sponge because of all this madness
asciilifeform: i'd sit down and do a proper incarnation of keccak, diana_coman , but i have maybe half a free hand and 40 hands worth of what to do..
diana_coman: as I said: my recent headaches on the topic made this absolutely pop out to me
diana_coman: "Note that endianness is irrelevant, here and elsewhere in FFA" <- FINALLY! esp given my recent keccak-induced headaches on the topic, I am delighted to read this; will dig deeper into ffa ch1 over the weekend
mircea_popescu: and since we're doing ro lulz, http://sov.ro/2017/11/21/capitolul-59-imi-veti-plati-4-miliarde-de-euro/ ( http://trilema.com/2010/ticalosul-si-libertatea/ rewriting http://trilema.com/2010/in-opera-sa-ne-masuram/ forgetting, of course, the "i'm just re-writing mp poorly years later" coda)
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's better to "sacrifice" self on the noble altar of high socialist ideals than to simply admit that can't make money and can't continue supporting losses.
asciilifeform: i suppose it will be propped up with 'hey it was in shitoshi 1.0, so He Meant This To Be' crapolade.
asciilifeform: i.e. all of the major heathen fronts, nominally on board.
asciilifeform: but meanwhile, in heathendom, https://archive.is/Oyq47 >> bitpay 'We are now beginning the work to require Payment Protocol wallet payments for all BitPay invoices.' << i had nfi this mikehearnism still lived on, even in zombieform
asciilifeform: (i.e. temporary)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 18:55 asciilifeform: http://p.ocdn.ee/4/i/2015/11/12/tfkyk4ty.t3l.jpg << in other mega-chix
trinque: heads up to all, I'll be traveling from about 2.5hrs from now until sunday night.
asciilifeform: the 2 things i did not forbid (though wanted to) were recursion (can't... karatsuba) and implicit-loops (can't... array assignments)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever got 1k comments, or near
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite aware. the 1 src that turned out to be reliable reference, was knuth (i.e. a 1960s work)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it will conveniently double as many things. i will add it to the topic link later today.
mod6: I don't have an ada at my disposal atm. So will do an entire test of the thing tonight and post results as I have them (probably on my site).
asciilifeform: i sawed it into almost pathologically small jigsaw pieces. e.g. next episode concerns e.g. shifting.
mod6: I read the entire thing so far, and it looks great. I have droped the vpatch and sig into my V and pressed it out, which also worked great.
mircea_popescu: i am reading. so far, this is a major achievement, and quite fundamental at that.
asciilifeform: neato. possibly only works if you had it going from the beginning ? ( or not. i'll check it out )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 21:27 mircea_popescu: i looked at thousands of once-there, now deceased sites. pretty depressing as an incidental, facebook made people measurably dumber.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-01#1745114 << i deleted a few folx from my links bar earlier this yr, who turned out to have... actually died ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 21:24 mod6: lol, asciilifeform ignore that. i already put a comment on your blog.
mod6: ben_vulpes: is there a comment approval process? I submitted the comment.
asciilifeform: neato, i gotta crib it at some point.
asciilifeform: ( and i have hardlinks everywhere, not only in own www, which'd be fixable, but all over heathendom )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-01#1745104 << my heathen one also has'em, but by the time i found out, it was too late, there is no built-in have-it-both-ways ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i looked at thousands of once-there, now deceased sites. pretty depressing as an incidental, facebook made people measurably dumber. ☟︎
mod6: lol, asciilifeform ignore that. i already put a comment on your blog. ☟︎
mod6: If you to gentlemen would rather not update your blogs, please let me know and I'll post a comment at the bottom of each.
mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1913 i mean
mircea_popescu: i don't think the previous runaround was enough punishment for his sins.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform reading this backbreaker of an article i must say i r impresst. exactly what ffa needed, too.
shinohai: I feel happy to be a part of such a grand institution that goes out of the way to be so all-inclusive in the logs.
mircea_popescu: o right i was reading alf's article.
mircea_popescu: i have this impression i was doing something but i can't remember what it was now.
phf: mod6: i've added the feature you requested
mircea_popescu: i guess there should be a product COKCS
phf: i can do other useful features, like
phf: asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis/tree/ffa/libffa/fz_arith.adb ok i've thrown in reserved words
phf: mircea_popescu: nope, it's a styling bug, which needs to be fixed, but i've been having hard time with it last time i tackled it (but i don't remember what was the issue, something related to tables and <pre>s)
mircea_popescu: in other news, this footlong plastic calzador i vbought at flexi (local shoe store) is one hell of a buttpaddle.
asciilifeform: in the next chapter i will link to this.
phf: i've had color disabled in my editors for years now, though some color like comments and string sequences is somewhat handy
phf: colorizer is missing ada support, so i'm slowly hacking in the highlighter http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis/tree/ffa/ffademo/ffa_io.adb comments and strings so far. i'm going to add keywords now and then leave it be
phf: asciilifeform: i added your ffa, http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa
trinque: mircea_popescu: looks like I have some deposits to credit. one sec. your hanbot one did not go through.
phf: mircea_popescu: it shouldn't be really, i just need to tune it
phf: i also saw your romanian dictionary vpatch, but i'm keeping it out for now, because at 2mb or whatever it is, it's putting some stress on gc
phf: i've been following the log
asciilifeform: phf: i 'pedagogized' it, will be a series of vpatches.
phf: asciilifeform: si, also i'll look for the ada source, pretty sure i have it