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mod6: I understand that sentiment. We discussed this at length. Which is why I actually have a test-vpatch pgp key for that purpose only.
asciilifeform: mod6: i dun like to uncase the launch codes 10,000,000 times per day every time test press. but others are moar than welcome to.
asciilifeform: mod6: if you dun have a testmode, you gotta sign it yerself to run it, what can i say
asciilifeform: imho the item i posted just nao, illustrates the cleaner method. but it has down-side in that one has to give up on 'i get to decide exactly what the unix dir structure will look like, notwithstanding the fact that gnumake was dropped as a baby and has nfi what file moving is'
asciilifeform: if phf , or anyone else, can think of a 3rd ( that is, one that actually preserves the v-genealogy , rather than idiot-cut-and-pastism ) i'm all ears.
asciilifeform: now let's come back to my much earlier pill, which i suggested in the mircea_popescu thread. which is imho even uglier. in that one, diana_coman would have to introduce the three mpi-ism vpatches comprising her working set, as ~files~ into eucrypt. and a sed script, and a vtron invocation, into her eucrypt makefile.
asciilifeform: it's not eucrypt, of course, but the helloworld i originally included in mpi . but shows what i meant above.
asciilifeform: i'ma demonstrate, brb
asciilifeform: i.e. why can't 'eucrypt' be a ~sibling~ dir to 'mpi' ☟︎
asciilifeform: the 1 thing i still don't fully understand is why diana_coman's subdir gotta move ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'm making an example, brb
diana_coman: mind telling me how you see it done? it's hopefully faster than debugging a wrong approach; once I have it working I'll write up the failure too if that's the thing
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it does the move BUT it requires post-cleaning (i.e. leaves some stuff behind) + works only with mod6's v; so something is wrong somewhere and hopefully it's just on my side i.e. I can correct it quickly following your explanation of how it should be done
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i gotta ask , what did this 'to some extent' look like.
diana_coman: fwiw I managed to do this to some extent, but I don't like this "to some extent"
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I need to create a vpatch that performs the change of dir structure from a/mpi to b/eucrypt/mpi where the contents of the mpi folder in both cases are identical; or more specifically for the task at hand: I want to create a vpatch that has as antecedent my previous sane_mpi_eucrypt.vpatch (whose output is an mpi folder with all sorts) and results in eucrypt/mpi where this new mpi folder has precisely same contents
asciilifeform: !~later tell diana_coman plox to describe, very very specifically, what you need done. then i'll show how.
asciilifeform: ( if it's shortwave -- i'll say right nao, it won't work, and the chinese 'up-converter' box -- defo wontwork )
asciilifeform: dare i ask what ben_vulpes had in mind
mircea_popescu: i dunno if im getting old or the thing is changing or what, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751240 << you know, it's only 1250 lines by btcbase count ; i recall in the past we had 2, maybe even a coupla 3k line days. yet NEVER before was it the case convo got so dense i had to switch to log reading WHILE AT THE TERMINAL. ☝︎
asciilifeform: will emphasize, nobody should sign unless fully ready to say ' i know for a fact that this piece works, would jump with the parachute '
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751375 << i'ma proclaim : will host all sigs for 'ffa graduates' ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749492 ) in my l1+2 . 'hall of fame'!11 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: i dungetit ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 18:23 mircea_popescu: honeslty i much preferred the density. made all sorts of буржуй bullshit untenable and plain-evidently not desirable.
mircea_popescu: this is a fine example as to what i mean by http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750802 btw. "oh, i found a couple more". really bitch, you did ? ha-ha funny. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 20:57 asciilifeform: from earlier lulzwww, https://ribalych.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/anekdoty-i-kartinki_006.jpg << for mircea_popescu .
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 20:44 diana_coman: although to be honest I wouldn't have defined it as notable, hmm
asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp why they lacked the diesel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, i always wondered. the insanity of the eg panzer 4 GASOLINE engine still harrows my mind.
asciilifeform: ( i suspect the answer is -- comically -- in the scarcity of the diesel cycle in its birth land !! almost until end of war, ~0 diesel there )
mircea_popescu: i am skeptical this is actually worth bothering.
asciilifeform: everybody tries. even with stalin's human material as i understand the ev was only marginally +.
asciilifeform: nao if i were today's berzin and ordered to organize canal building using homo redditus -- would prolly eat nagant.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how long that pretense can be maintained
mircea_popescu: i suppose.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: I have not seen TheNewDeal.
mircea_popescu: !~translate ro to ru foaie verde pofta-n cui, pasare ca porcu' nu-i.
mircea_popescu: !~tr ro to ru foaie verde pofta-n cui, pasare ca porcu' nu-i.
asciilifeform: 1st time i thought it was delirium dream
asciilifeform: there was, i even saw the occasional ostrich in dc suburbia back yards in '90s
mircea_popescu: i don't have time to think
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 21:54 mod6: (I've been working off an FFA that's like... at least 3-4 months old.)
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 21:09 mod6: asciilifeform: is this the chainsaw item? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/59sccgnsIgY/hqdefault.jpg
mircea_popescu: "snowderella or what's her name DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO STAY ALIVE till the prince came, why should i hit the threadmill". how did he come ? well... that's his problem! and his business! as a prince, to come! (ie, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749973 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 19:06 mircea_popescu: there's some biological factors to account for this, both directly (shittier metabolism ; stronger response to neurotransmitters ; the venereal 50/5 trap etc) and indirect (through the workings of sexuate reproduction women are always vandable) ; but i'm pretty sure there's also psychological factors involved.
mod6: i'd have to dig it up, i forget who the gentlemen is.
mod6: mircea_popescu started us off with 10, some guy threw in 10, I threw in 10 + a bunch of change while testing
mircea_popescu: anyway, in other advantages of living in tiny spec of a country : i went for that steak i was considering yest. across from my table, laura chincilla (ex president)
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751186 <<< Recall, mod6 that you and I discussed this but may have been im PM. I hard-baked sdf and localhost servers in your V and it built trb fine ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 16:53 mircea_popescu: i guess if all the "exclusive gated community" schmucks weren't so schmucky thery could have a delegated hunter, get your steak in the mail by 10am.
mircea_popescu: i swear, some of these things look perfectly apt for antisubmarine warfare.
mod6: Hm. Well, depends on which project I suppose. For trb, one can send such signatures of pre-existing vpatches to the ML, whereby I can scoop them up and place them in the Foundation's repository as needed.
diana_coman: of* someone else's patches I guess
mod6: (I've been working off an FFA that's like... at least 3-4 months old.) ☟︎
mod6: I also want to spend a few minutes here soon and adapt my FFA unit tests to the vpatches that stan has released thus far.
mod6: ah, good. busy. i need to dig into stan's ch2 still. been tinkering around with the wallet.
mod6: asciilifeform: is this the chainsaw item? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/59sccgnsIgY/hqdefault.jpg ☟︎
asciilifeform: from earlier lulzwww, https://ribalych.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/anekdoty-i-kartinki_006.jpg << for mircea_popescu . ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> phunphakt : in american schools, there are power tools. but children are not permitted near them. they may only draw a cut, and beg teacher to make it. << In highschool we had "forestry" class that consisted of maintaining walkable path near edge of school grounds. Got to fell smaller weedy trees with reciprocating saw (i.e. sharp fucksaw)
jhvh1: asciilifeform: jurov was last seen in #trilema 1 week, 2 days, 10 hours, 33 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <jurov> mod6: ben_vulpes: have you decided about forked coins on foundation's address? should i report them, or sell, or they don't exist?
diana_coman: although to be honest I wouldn't have defined it as notable, hmm ☟︎
diana_coman: I know it's no accident, yes; still funny though
diana_coman: now I wonder whether asciilifeform knows what "drujba" means in Romanian, lol
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wtf is the "psychedelic" supposed to do, i never could figure out. all sort and manner of kids were into all sorta manner of "psychedleic" bullcrap, from special light-things to "interpret" the music (installed eg under car seats! made the whole experience fucking nauseous) to what have you. but... why ? << What does any idle escapism promise?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> as a kid what i did with my time was that i ran up three flights of stairs to drink (straight from the faucet, who the everloving fuck has the time or the patience for glasses!) a stomachfull of water, then run back down and keep fucking running. << Since arriving I have been primarily drinking faucet water and coffees with occasial forays into the local bottled water and juices.
asciilifeform: last i heard 'the ancient ukrs had wireless : archaeologists, see, found 0 wires !!'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. i expect something like that.
asciilifeform: ( and even it, i suspect, will have to be sold, won't fit in orbit capsule )
asciilifeform: i actually wish , in retrospect, that i'd had an extra year of saw, hammer, before comp.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> lead imo not the best choice. << ah. one reason that i prefer lead over steel shot is that it tends to not break my teeth when I bite into one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one of asciilifeform's persistent crackpotteries, is to reforge this sword. i.e. make comp that fits in kid head .
asciilifeform: ( i.e. rom got deselected after being copied to ram , so did not sit and uselessly hog addr space )
asciilifeform: it did, but i never noticed with naked eye. prolly because tv had to warm.
asciilifeform: i dun get it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 00:51 mircea_popescu: i suppose this reduces the discussion to "there's two kinds of bipedals, the monkey and the human. the monkey dedicates itself to building wail groups, and the human to not needing to."
mircea_popescu: oh disk, i was thinking flexible diskette thing
asciilifeform: funnily enough i did not program the 'iskra', was small, programmed already 'commodore' ( and inherited a 8086 a few yrs after )
mircea_popescu: well i think i'd have scrounged together the two bux for a RAKS blank before i spent two days typing in
mircea_popescu: (first, and for many years ONLY meaning i had for "faggot" ie "homalau" in ro was... "actually listens to depeche mode")
asciilifeform: and i still dunget it. dafuq, box that forces you to BUY gamez!
asciilifeform: still are, as i'm told
asciilifeform: i'd like to revisit upstack http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750941 . i suspect the magic of 8bit micro can still stand . even next to crapple. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and here i was just about ready for buying ticket!11
mircea_popescu: i was gonna say "yeah but through masturbation not computation" but then i abstained.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't supposed to "do too much" because "ruin eyes".
mircea_popescu: i had it in the livingroom too.
asciilifeform: phf: i had somewhat different kind of 'pusher' in re gamez -- elder brother whose machine it was, and strictly rationed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can even now recall the sound.
phf: mircea_popescu: i started contemplating the same thing as soon as i said it :)
a111: Logged on 2014-02-19 15:51 asciilifeform: brother and i played this on our 'Iskra' (xt clone) and combed three different dictionaries to learn what the fuck an osha is
phf: there's actually a bunch of games that i only have a vague awareness of that i only spent an hour or two playing at various research facilities and construction sites
phf: mircea_popescu: alley cat triggers some ~really~ old memories, i.e. i played it before i even have conscious awareness of things
mircea_popescu: aha! that was my 2nd i think ; after the jumping jack one
asciilifeform: i still have 'alley cat'. on hp 200lx.
mircea_popescu: phf i recently mastered captain comic with my sister. we used to play it (she shot) when she was like...5 ; then we ACTUALLY managed to finish it, for the first time ever. she was more like 25.
phf: i've actually tried playing it quite recently, i couldn't get more than 2 screens forward. i've gotten soft with these modern "video games"
mircea_popescu: gah i wish i remembered wtf it was called. it actually had equalizers and shit. 640px vga too
mircea_popescu: no soundblaster or anything, used the speaker. i imagine it cheated and clipped to 16 bit.
mircea_popescu: there was a mp3 player that ran on the 286, i played clayderman on it while the dots moved. i guess it was kinda cool, or at least teh girls liked it lots.\