asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: zoolag at 592682 , btw, as of 1min ago.
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness -- if anyone has a trb that aint in my addnode ( the piz nodes -- already are in ) and would like it included -- plox to comment.
asciilifeform: the 3rd, still seems to be a noad, of some description. just, catches no mice.
asciilifeform: the 2nd in this set, dun even ping nomoar.
asciilifeform: i'ma remove'em, unless the owners (who runs these, fess up...) fix'em and write in.
asciilifeform: here's 1 moar tidbit : 172.86.178.46 , 216.151.13.77 , and 91.218.246.31 appear in zoolag's -addnode list but have NOT supplied 1 single block in the entire period represented in above log !!!
asciilifeform: #3 -- sumthing in france ; 5 -- ro; 6 -- canada; 7 -- singapur (trinque?) ; 8 -- slovak , like #1 .
asciilifeform: report to #a, herr lurker, get yer uniform & spade . dun let life pass by while watching .
asciilifeform: 3y of lurk oughta be enuff for anyone, imho !
asciilifeform waves to the lurker from argentina searching asciilifeform's log for 'learn ru'
asciilifeform: anyone else running a trb w/ 'who-gave' -- invited to publish theirs .
asciilifeform: entirely possib. that the actual # is smaller yet -- some % of the 182 may be folx on dynamic ips, or since dead, or otherwise >1 to 1 ratio of ip in log to physically-alive machine .
asciilifeform: (i.e. as seen from the publicly-reachable net. )
asciilifeform: from this log, it would imho not be a mistake to say that there are approx 200 boxen that could be described as btc nodes . the rest -- are https://www.oglaf.com/humans/ .
asciilifeform: ( to be utterly pedantic : the however-many ~other~ peers, they got connected , ~were asked for next block~, and ~said 'fuckoff'~ ! )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suggested mirrorism to mod6 cuz iirc it's the type of chore he's historically a++ in. as i understand lobbes is 99% of the way to 3rd logger , so not exactly burning , tru
asciilifeform: i can't imagine diana_coman is the only 1
asciilifeform: diana_coman: go ahead and make a 'centos' in /contrib or where were these, in vtree, other folx may want'em
asciilifeform: later -- phase change, and became 'honorific' .
asciilifeform: 'why you fuck -- alive, while my father -- dead ??'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: phunphakt -- in early-period israel, 'localhost surviver' wasn't considered worth to brag, it was seen (generally correctly) as ~= 'quisling'
asciilifeform: ( tho folx who dun like what is in front of nose -- will happily bury selves in 'the books', or in pedopizza reddit, etc )
asciilifeform: sometimes, believe or not, answer is not 'in the book', but in front of nose.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho it's entirely reminiscent of anglo 'sovietologists' who tried to 'find out what makes them reds tick' by reading engels
asciilifeform: searching for 'talmudic' underpinnings of curent il is a favourite, i'm aware, preoccupation of 'armchair archaeologists', in much the same spirit as 'pedo-pizza proofs'
asciilifeform: which is to say -- not 0, but epsilon as close to 0 as you might like.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ~100% of the folx who gave rat's arse re 'talmudic tradition' went in the ovens. i.e. it has as much to do with the current 'unsinkable carrier' as the spew of thomas aquinas has to do with current usg.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re israel -- consider fact that stalin happily funded it, while it was -- briefly -- a bone in the throat of angloreich, rather than province in good standing of same
asciilifeform: south vietnam was gonna be on the list, but 'oops'
asciilifeform: i.e. current cn politburo is ~soft~. sided w/ pantsuit !
asciilifeform: ( apropos of subj -- it is interesting to consider why 'tiananmen wank' is a thing in cn. the not-so-seekrit answer is that open discussion of subj would indeed cost the crowned heads their necks -- but ~not~ for 'ohnoez, killing protesters' -- but instead ~for having left any alive~. their 'grievances' included e.g. 'how dare pekin permit sons of peasants to enter university' . )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: consider, usg.dos et al dun seem to have any trouble finding bottomless supply of orcs quite ready to 'ponerse delante de las tanques' in the name of clitler.
asciilifeform: see also mircea_popescu's 'and they won't yield' piece re subj.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nobody ever 'internalized worthlessness', they sit around w/ wagner an' cyanide and bloviate re their 'aryan superiority' even as the tanks wind'em up onto treads
asciilifeform: marx -- was wrong, i suspect, when wrote that 'for 200% profit, capitalist will sell mother; for 300% -- will go to almost certain noose'. he did not account for cowardice.
asciilifeform: it's already , likely, a +ev proposition. and the only thing preventing this nuke from firing, is the cowardice of the folx holding the detonator.
asciilifeform: as i understand , all that'd be needed to bring that shitshow to a permanent close, is a dozen or so blocks mined w/ '51%' thrust, containing the segshit unwinds.
asciilifeform: ( from my pov -- making the sig optional was ~the~ shitoshi design bug, all the other retardations are scarcely anything if stood in comparison to it )
asciilifeform: some subset of chinese are almost certainly tuned into prb net specifically to collect that delish candy of eventually-unwindable 'pay-anyone' segshit tx.
asciilifeform: ... cuz they fucking aint nodes. they're enemy outputs that do strictly as little 'node-ing' as can get away with and still dupe idiots into operating.
asciilifeform: iirc past coupla yrs of prb won't even give peers table. but i'm not interested so much in what prb nodes have to say to begin with.
asciilifeform: will add : survey of public nodez will also tell us something re the nonpublic ( unless the folx talking to these, took deliberate care to modify their public noad to avoid listing'em in the disgorged peer table )
asciilifeform: currently 0 is publicly known re the actual state of the net ( the heathen 'survey' www's are ~disinfo~, they deliberately conceal specifically the nodes we are interested in. )
asciilifeform: atm no one has the hands for this, sadly.
asciilifeform: the most helpful currently unavailable tool would be a troo and honest survey of publicly-reachable nodes of erry type. ( via port scan of ipv4 and subsequent interrogation , by properly-written proggy. )
asciilifeform: currently i lack the tools with which to solidly prove or refute this hypothesis. but fwiw have not yet encountered any clue which would contradict it.
asciilifeform: whereas the 4000 or however many pseudonodes making up the claimed heathen net -- simply get in the way.
asciilifeform: to formalize : asciilifeform's current hypothesis is that there is a thin 'tube' of trb-compat. nodes b/w pekin & trb orchestra. responsible for 100% of new blox.
asciilifeform: ( moreover, they issue it -- and get the ban -- a few msec after connecting. ergo they are responsible for 0 brought blox, and in fact we gain 0 from talking to them )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: think, this is elementary. as soon as they issue a 'bloomism' or similar cmd to a trb node -- they get malleus'd. and yet we still get blox in realtime for 6-7 months at a stretch.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and fwiw i suspect that the entire set of >7 nodes is 100% solid dross, and responsible for 0 block conveyance
asciilifeform: before considering any such horror, rly oughta fix propagation b/w trb !!
asciilifeform: the correct frequency with which situation 'trb node a is at height H, its peer trb node b is at H-k, for hour+' oughta happen, is ~never~
asciilifeform: i was speaking specifically of 'i ~know~ these people have x, so why do i only get x-10,x-9,... when connecting to'em and then nuffin' )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'can only pull rabbit from hat if rabbit is in fact in the hat'(tm)
asciilifeform: ( iirc in ben_vulpes's variant, 'if no block for 10min+, milk all peers' )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yest.'s episode cemented in my head the insufficiency of my orig. 'aggression' patch. i strongly suspect The Right Thing is some variant of ben's. with the orig., node eats 5-10 blox when connects to trb peers on restart, then the connections stable and gets nomoar for hours. whereas on ea. restart, in facts gets the 5-10.
