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asciilifeform: decimation: everyone uses same tools
decimation: how does that work? wouldn't they need to integrate with the fab design tools?
asciilifeform: which turns into a chip with minimal human intervention
asciilifeform: rather, it is that arm is implemented by 'licensees' who get an opaque turd
asciilifeform: that's not even the boojum here
decimation: and they seem to have no issue with pumping out more
decimation: yeah but the world seems to be adopting the arm turd instead
asciilifeform: thing is, when it dies, arm will become the new x86.
asciilifeform: i will go on record as objecting to anything which extends its life
decimation: I always figured the instructions were in a databook
decimation: wow, I"ve never tried to boot intel myself
asciilifeform: phun phact: virtually everything we publicly know re: how an intel cpu inits comes from the great ami bios source leaks ☟︎
asciilifeform: decimation: because there are not so many firms with access to intel initialization turds
asciilifeform: but with a mountain of closed turds to make the hardware go.
decimation: why do hardware vendors continually purchase the same american microtrends turds?
asciilifeform: thing is, they shipped it with gentoo
asciilifeform: several years ago, i bought the arm chipset chromebook and tried in vain, for ages, to install gentoo on it ☟︎
decimation: actually I kinda wonder what the 'inside story' is in the bios business
asciilifeform: google gets nonpublic info from chip vendors and then pisses all over gpl.
decimation: interestingly it appears that google uses it for their chromebooks
asciilifeform: which is in the process of going extinct
asciilifeform: however, this means amd.
decimation: reading through some of the 'hardware support' pages, it seems like getting to boot is rarely straightforward
asciilifeform: decimation: i'd consider doing this, but doubt there is any serious demand ☟︎
decimation: asciilifeform: I wish there were a curated release of coreboot
asciilifeform: it no longer matters if the idiot bios your motherboard vendor supplied understands what a flash stick, etc. is.
asciilifeform: and boot directly to it. you then will have guaranteed function for all of your disks, other peripherals, etc. which worked under that linux kernel
asciilifeform: can even stuff your favourite kernel in the resulting cavity.
asciilifeform: so, for instance, if you -never- run winblows, you can nix -all- of classical x86 bios-compatibility turd
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 07:09:51; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from their "download" page. http://www.coreboot.org/ click download
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1126936 << one of the nice things about having the source, regardless of how idiotic the dev process which produced it, is cutting away the crud. which you can do with coreboot, just as with bitcoind etc. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: the uniquely idiotic error message, 'not found', refers to glibc and its turds (libnss etc)
jurov: (just trolling you)
jurov: kakobrekla: pls remove the last 3 lines
jurov: /msg williamdunne yea got the stego data alright
Naphex: hehe, might not be the best source
jurov: http://oglaf.com/fogofmeat/ << i mean this
Naphex: Khipus, the ancient blockchains. Had much of the security model as well
jurov: and it's prolly where that term comes from
jurov: funkenstein_: more like He forgot to debug such an optional feature and resorted to monkey-patching
assbot: God Realizes He Forgot To Put Souls In Humans - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1F70ZUC )
davout: however, mounting the ext2 partition works
davout: running the experimental armv5 binary doesn't work either, with same error, on the buildroot-2015.02 kernel
davout: oh and ben_vulpes, by 'real computer' I mean any non-Apple machine, that'll always be a good improvememnt :D ☟︎
davout: so now my next issue is when trying to run your experimental armv5 build i get:
davout: as the little work would say: 'victory is mine!'
davout: asciilifeform: so i managed to get "busybox mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1" working on the pogo by using buildroot-2015.05-rc1 instead of 2015.02, applying your patches (which do apply cleanly), apply my WIP-patch, and boot on that
assbot: MPEx owner getting letters from US gov, in danger of being extradited to US to stand trial : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1H6JjYB )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell chillum hey, you gonna ban that dude now ?
gribble: chillum was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 15 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Chillum> I have never understood how a 1 paragraph post that links to a full article somehow makes it to the top of google searches. They are adding basically nothing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from their "download" page. http://www.coreboot.org/ click download ☟︎
asciilifeform: how mircea_popescu even came to see this cthonian horror.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the fuck does this mean << what it looked like: she was leaving town, he tried to get in the way
ben_vulpes: p and and and ul and div and everything are just so floppy all of the time and used in such wildly divergent ways
ben_vulpes: dude html is the worst
mircea_popescu: go to all that trouble to introduce git hooks to sign, eschew pgp. i wouldn't use them to put a fire out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "Gerrit workflow - Gerrit interprets each Git commit as an individual change. Changes are autobuilt by Jenkins, and can be reviewed by developers. Once a change has gotten a positive review and has no build issues, it is applied to the master branch. Thus, no developer directly pushes to master."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fuck does this mean, stealing his gurl's ticket
decimation: http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=18757 < baltimore burns, and 40 miles away usg implements plans to instruct hobbyist r/c aircraft pilots
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 14:54:53; mircea_popescu: and this is how chernobyl happened.
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1120886 < the positive void coefficient design was a bad move, and another was the fact that the containment was essentially a wooden shed ☝︎
decimation: asciilifeform: why would they arrest over subway ticket? pay fine and move on? Must be complicated with the 'domestic'
ascii_modem: not so hard to build & burn - on reasonable iron (fuck intel)
ascii_modem: re: bios: i'm rather surprised that mircea_popescu doesn't demand 'coreboot' (aka linuxbios) on his boxes
mod6: usually it's just hobo's drunk asf going on at high volume about aliens or jesus. but every now and then, a good fight breaks out.
mod6: train drama cracks me up. i see it from time to time.
mod6: yeah, then that something different entierly i'd guess as far as statutes, etc.
ascii_modem: it looked like he was trying to keep her from leaving
mod6: here it's like $200 fine if caught without a ticket.
mod6: not sure. you'd think the choad would have just bought a ticket of his own. or if caught without a ticket, kept his mouth shut and paid a fine.
ascii_modem: (is the correct engl. legalism for this kind of thing still 'a domestic' if the drama is in a public place?)
ascii_modem: turns out he was caught stealing gurl's ticket - his s.o.
mod6: "unpaid parking tickets"
ascii_modem: so i was in a train station, and saw rare sight:
mod6: asciilifeform: here's today's update from the v0.5.3.1+Orphanage+Thermonuke test: http://dpaste.com/3Q81JA6.txt
mod6: yeah, saw that.
mircea_popescu: but nevertheless... the plane looks as much as a plane as it could, among the bamboo sticks and clay pottery.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of annoying "magic numbers will save us" voodoo in there, like "Each server is required to deposit a certain amount of money in a special account to be used as potential fines or rewards for proof of misconduct."
mod6: ahh, the naive writs of our forefathers. << ah yeah! isn't that from like '98 cypherpunks?
mircea_popescu: http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt << ahh, the naive writs of our forefathers.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. so, this box : if hard drive is attached, will not boot off usb stick. just ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist. is hd is detached, will boot off stick just fine, but will NOT detect the hard drive no matter what happens.
pete_dushenski: well, it's been a gas but i'm off for the eve. cheerio !
pete_dushenski: who's xiando to you ?
pete_dushenski: jordandotdev: ah well there ya go.
jordandotdev: @ pete_dushenski yeah I'm in the WOT http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/jordandotdev/
pete_dushenski: Fast fwd to yesterday. I wasn't home yet from work, but my wife tells me local LE showed up and wanted to have a "chat". Asked if I or anone had ever ordered anything illicit in the mail. Said "nobody's in trouble, we're just following up on something that might be nothing"." ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "Coinbase is seriously crossing the line now. I have had an account with Coinbase for well over 1.5 year. I bought some btc in March, and sent it to a DNM (won't say which one).. and did not purchase anything. I did not. The btc was a trivial amount, and said DNM has been having troubles with their uptime lately. Literally, no crime committed.
jordandotdev: roger that
jordandotdev: yes I have my key I don't know if I'm in this web-of-trust
jordandotdev: I don't think I did one for bitcoin-assets
jordandotdev: Ummm it's been some time since I last updated it
pete_dushenski: web of trust.
pete_dushenski: ah ok. you in the wot yet ?
jordandotdev: pete_dushenski: naw just had this as one of my channels in autojoin irccloud - I've been interested in mircea's work and have read some of his stuff
pete_dushenski: jordandotdev: so what brings you by today ? anything in particular ?
pete_dushenski: https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size?timespan=2year&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address= << call it a doubling-and-a-half of block size over the last two years.
pete_dushenski: jordandotdev: i don't believe we've talked before, no.
pete_dushenski: seems to me like a bank would be a perfectly reasonable place to learn finance, likely better than 'quantitative developers'
jordandotdev: how about you pete_dushenski have we talked before?
jordandotdev: I do want to get into finance so I'm looking to do project management for quantitative developers etc. / go to school for a masters in finance if I can cut it (: