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ascii_field: so from what i can see, 1) they cut every possible corner 2) rolled in x86 because unspoken 'winblows 4ever'
ascii_field: and implication from brochure is that there is no native linux port, but uses x86 translatron
mircea_popescu: maybe just for the demo units
ascii_field: e.g., they appear to use foreign nic
ascii_field: but i see a number of oddities right off the bat
ascii_field: by the time we find it, it's ripe
mircea_popescu: even testing for one might burn undiscovered ones.
mircea_popescu: give it a coupla years, they won't even be able to fix anything anymore because of deployment
mircea_popescu: ascii_field they're prolly looking atm.
mircea_popescu: but i suspect too early yet
mircea_popescu: there is some residual interest in exploring this thing, because it will definitely become the standard in ru bureaucracy, and knowing its holes will allow us to complete our collection of michelle obama cockinmouth.jpg with all the random hos putin manhandles.
pete_dushenski: and $4k is for mini tower, not server, neh ?
mircea_popescu: so basically they can only sell to rug.
ascii_field: probably answer is 'not made in cn, therefore add a zero to cost'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i can bitch at someone there to buy it, i imagine. prolly so can you
mircea_popescu: well wtf is a server supposed to cost, 20k ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: buy elbrus ... << ru corps only is the advertised offer
ascii_field: ty mircea_popescu. and pete_dushenski has it - those were lunch money, yes
pete_dushenski: but but but pogos are cheap and shipped to door!
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 17:18:59; ascii_field: to the end that thread re: whether 'we' will buy something is really a thread about whether mircea_popescu might buy something, and ought to be labeled correctly
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128018 << says the guy who bought & brought an entire fucking case of pogos, lol. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you know i *am* willing to buy one, host it in the ukr lands closeby, and so on.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field wait, so you're not gonna write an inquiry to the elbrus folks ?
mircea_popescu: i thought you meant the site. gotta love those girls, great sports.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128006 << that gyfcat thing is old, one of the sluts was using it to greatly impress. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i was thinking hm, williamdunne ran an exchange ?
mircea_popescu: im not going to even go into the whole pki nonsense, too lazy atm.
mircea_popescu: yes, they used to be more expensive, and have been alligning to the mpex price over the years. nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: how much do you think nyse costs ?
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 16:58:26; williamdunne: MPEx did pioneer many things in Bitcoin derivatives and they deserve credit for that. However, I find it unlikely that an exchange with such a high up-front fee just to participate will ever find mainstream acceptance.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1127967 << what are you, nuts ? no exchange with a lower fee EVER, in the entire history of finance, gained mainstream acceptance. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the derp was @reddit not at teh comments themselves.
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 16:39:56; bitcoinquestions: Came to post this link, but you beat me to it. OP take the time to read this. Derp. << Do you feel the comment is pointless because OP is likely a bot etc.? Or do you feel the article is irrelevant to the matter at hand?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1127949 << i feel the comments are the only good stuff on that reddit piece, which is amusing seeing how they both got 0 votes. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 16:26:55; williamdunne: We were doing it and will continue to do it when we relaunch
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1127940 << as in, customer can opt to have no communication with exchange outside of pgp ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: how much has changed, how the mighty have fallen, etc.
mircea_popescu: imagine, the us daring to hit a cn embassy today :D
mircea_popescu: ah, where are the rambunctious years of the serbian "pace" mission.
ascii_field: there is a (plausible) legend that the strike on the cn embassy was deliberate - as it was where the carcass was hidden
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i'm only very marginally interested in this sort of wankery tbh.
ascii_field floored that mircea_popescu had not heard of the mega-airplane
jurov: it isn't so inconceivable to point an antenna to sky and scan for reflected 2.4ghz sources
mircea_popescu: "In addition, the Serbs had also intercepted and deciphered some NATO communications" AAAAhahahahaha
mircea_popescu: those things are as big as the damned f117
mircea_popescu: hey check it out, 1999 F-117A shootdown. is a thing.
mircea_popescu: i didn't know they had rockets fast enough even. wtf is this.
jurov: yea, there's a piece exhibited in belgrade
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: wut, it connects to wireless << it casts a shadow in microwave spectrum
jurov: well, serbians did use passive radar to shoot one down. and then 2.4ghz sources were far not so plentiful
ascii_field: let the golang folks be proud of their flagship, l0l
mircea_popescu: ascii_field https://jonasnick.github.io/blog/2015/05/09/fuzzing-bitcoin-consensus/ << you seen this ? fucking major.
mircea_popescu: jurov it never flies that low does it ?
mats: fun fact: since OLPC machines use IEEE1275, they all have a Forth implementation baked into the firmware.
mircea_popescu: "those guys are the top just because they're priviledged, we can be just as good as them, even better. because we want to, that's why!"
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 16:06:41; thestringpuller: i like how mpex is completely ignored in the GPG discussion. "Ignore the guys with the nukes and they'll just go away."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1127936 more like, "we'll make our own theatre here in akron, ohio. what schubert in new haven ? what square mile ? broadway ? nah dude. ohio teatre." ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field wut, it connects to wireless ?
ascii_field: mats: not only a thing, but effectively defeats famous 'stealth airplane'
mircea_popescu: anyway, if there are any javascript experts in the room, you, trinque, whoever : currently it pisses me off because if you click on page it scrolls you to top. any idea how to fix it so it ignores clicks ? just, never scroll as a result of a click.
mats: fun fact: passive radar using 802.11 points and such is a thing.
davout: i kindof expected a little pop-up like on the btc-dev mailing list
davout: open an article randomly, select random bit of the article, nothing happens
ascii_field: essentially a byword for 'let's find a way to enforce ban on general-purpose computer'
mircea_popescu: ugh. so what happens if you follow trinque's link ?
davout: i must be misunderstanding something here, i tried in safari, ff, and chrome
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128111 << ancient drm wankatron where lusers are somehow coerced into 'proving' that they run virginal winblows which will obey usg dictat ☝︎☟︎
davout: maybe i need to flush cache
mircea_popescu: well, what error does the console pop ?
davout: i tried, didn't werk
mircea_popescu: davout yup. requires js, but it's pretty solid. try itr.
mats: jurov: usual approach is through hashing regions of memory for comparison
davout: is it supposed to work on trilema? as in, i select arbitrary text and i'l given a URL reference?
mircea_popescu: mats yep, part oif why the entire "attestation" bs is so lulzy.
trinque: yeah that selection script is sweet
mircea_popescu: trinque isn't it great that now you can :D
mircea_popescu: <jurov> there's this big hairy crystalspace dependency that apparently calls ssh from configure << ahaha wut!
mats: (as long as you fill unused flash with high entropy NOPs that eventually jump to a fault handler, and do attestation via reset to a minimal bootloader that can use all memory)
mats: fun fact: you can use scrypt to attempt remote code integrity attestation on microprocessors.
davout: williamdunne: you scared me with that SSL shit
assbot: Views From A Shithole, or Periplus Through Stupidity on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zToikq )
trinque: http://trilema.com/2015/views-from-a-shithole-or-periplus-through-stupidity/#selection-111.62-111.89 << ahaha, I'm saving that one for later.
mod6: yeah, I don't remember having that problem before with CS... but maybe i'd forgotten?!
assbot: Welcome to Navy Forces Online Public Sites ... ( http://bit.ly/1zTmXtR )
ascii_field: l0l, that thing has a www! http://www.nioc-sugargrove.navy.mil
jurov: there's this big hairy crystalspace dependency that apparently calls ssh from configure
jurov is curious for how many people will eulora exist then
mircea_popescu: you're not the only one.
williamdunne: Nothing that hard, but often its ignored by developers
ascii_field: (the only reason we don't build bitcoind on pogo is the ram-poverty)
trinque: nothing that hard about cross compiling to arm
williamdunne: Mmm the second thing a bit. Prebuilt certainly makes mundane tasks that should be easy, easy
ascii_field: or do you consider any box where you can't suck down prebuilt packages from the net, to be 'a bitch to run'
ascii_field: williamdunne: rpi in particular was a miserably underpowered (nic shared usb line with drives) thing
williamdunne: Admittedly it was a while ago, but I can remember getting most things to run on an RPI-like was an absolute bitch
ascii_field: (and there is claimed x86 dynamic translation, a la apple ppc. so it may yet turn out that most 'elbrus' will end up running winblowsxp...)
williamdunne: 5) With far less support in terms of software you may need to run
ascii_field: from standpoint of boobytraps, an example of 'worth writing home about' would be a machine 1) with pedantically open spec, to transistor level 2) with provisions for tandemming with implementations of same by other, foreign makers ☟︎
pete_dushenski is reminded of recent commenter who was all "crowdfund your bitcoin nodes if they're too expensive"
ascii_field: at any rate, the reason to hold off creaming your pants on this occasion, is that 1) it's yet another von neumann turd 2) enjoy trading usg boobytraps for ru variant ☟︎