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trinque: oh no,
the shitposting... it's leaking!
cazalla: and with
the imminent aussie budget due, muh country slide further down
the drain.. "A new
tax on bank deposits
to build a fund
that could be used in
the event of a banking collapse. In a handy little boost,
the money would also sit on
the budget balance sheet. "
trinque: old dude owned a basketball
team and said something not even
that racist
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if only
that guy with
the younger queen of spades gf had had
the sense
to do
this, you know ? "hey, i just own
the
team. go fire my racism guy if you don';t like my being racist"
ben_vulpes: "noice likkle exchange ew've got
there"
mircea_popescu: because
that's
totally how
the mob works, "hey, i don't owe you money,
that was my other personality / sister / neighbour"
ben_vulpes: b-b-but
that's
the compliant guy's job!
mircea_popescu: now...
to answer
this you're
telling me
that you wouldn't be doing
the planting directly ? what difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, ~IF~ you do get some
tomatoes
to grow,
they are yours.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so, you wish
to grow
tomatoes. you can either grow
tomatoes on land owned by old man KYC, who offers
the following deal : "you may [pretend like] you're growing
tomatoes here, provided you suck my cock for longer
than you derp in
the garden, and if any
tomatoes grow up you owe me
twice as many
tomatoes on
top of
those
tomatoes", or you could grow
them on unrelated land. which may or may not be able
to grow
tomatoes in
mircea_popescu: nothing changes. let's work an example
to get what we mean.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, lawsky has his own guy
that bribed him
to do it, and whoever else has whoever else, and none of
those schmucks is you.
ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> You'll be able
to
trade and do bitcoin
transactions without KYC
though, just no fiat << mhhhhhm.
mircea_popescu: quite. and exactly
the same with kyc. if you implement
the us rules, you're stuck working for
the us. it probably doesn't want you
to be doing
this, and consequently, you are only allowed
to "do it" if you don't actually do it, and for as long as you bring money from home.
williamdunne: You'll be able
to
trade and do bitcoin
transactions without KYC
though, just no fiat
williamdunne: Then
there will be a separate exchange in
the future without
the BS
williamdunne: 23:50:31 - mircea_popescu: prolly end up richer
than me. or dead, whichever comes first. <<< we're doing
the KYC bs on
the first exchange
williamdunne: 23:50:20 - mircea_popescu: if you're serious about
this, go
to a country
that's not part of
the usg, run a proper exchange. no kyc/bs.
williamdunne: Sorry was just going over
the logs didn't see your message
williamdunne: 19:22:10 - davout: williamdunne: you scared me with
that SSL shit << it was stupidity at its finest, pretty sure
they only implemented GPG for another buzzword
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 16:26:55; williamdunne: We were doing it and will continue
to do it when we relaunch
mircea_popescu: prolly end up richer
than me. or dead, whichever comes first.
mircea_popescu: if you're serious about
this, go
to a country
that's not part of
the usg, run a proper exchange. no kyc/bs.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Mm soft-launch of
the one
that I shall be re-launching soonish ^tm >>> i was
thinking hm, williamdunne ran an exchange
mircea_popescu: taking shit from b-a log and pretending like your "expert" economists finally figured it out a month later is one
thing.
taking code and backporting it is harder
to deny.
mircea_popescu: odds of
that are low, seeing how a)
they're
too stupid-proud
to do it and b) we got better shit
to do
than maintain dead forks.
davout: it would be pretty lulzy
to actually fix it in 0.5.3.1 and
then "backport" it
to 0.11
mircea_popescu: they have a solid
tradition of covering old shit
that;s starting
to stink with freshly laid shit.
davout: "because otherwise one would notice
that
the synchronization protocol is absolutely and completely broken"
davout: also i finally understand why
the power rangers
think checkpoints are a good idea
mircea_popescu: davout has it.
testnet is about as useful
to
testing bitcoin as it is
to
testing litecoin.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo fwiw i
think he's smoking corn cobbs. srsly, if some woman needs me
to walk everywhere with her i dun want anything
to do with her. learn
to kungfu.
jurov: ;;seen
thickasthieves
mircea_popescu: * jurov proposes opening D.GBTC
to close
the circle :DDD << i would, if i didn't know in advance
that
the entire charade is entirely outside of any sort of economical considerations.
jurov: pity we don't have
TaT around anymore. he could have pitched altcoin
to
them
davout: thestringpuller: "We need something like
testnet, just not
testnet." <<<
the
thing is
that
testnet doesn't even behave like actual bitcoin, because magic rules, because reasons
cazalla: anyway, having your step son shovel rocks sounds like a good way for
the guy
to bang your mum without you interrupting
jurov: i did not feel like examining exact details of
that braindamage
davout: jurov: wrt
that GBTC
thing, it says "each represents ownership of approximately 0.1 BTC", wtf *approximately*?
trinque: I should probably go get some pills for
that
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 20:24:22;
trinque: step dad once dumped out a big pile of rocks from a dump
truck, handed me a shovel
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 20:05:16; ascii_field: why
the fuck are you
telling yourself
to do
things you're clearly no good for ? << who wants
to be biodiesel ?
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF
Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021367 B (Total: 467.26 B). Delta: -0.18 B. Last
trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000206 BTC [-]
jurov proposes opening D.GBTC
to close
the circle :DDD
jurov: we celebrate
these
two at 5th of July
mircea_popescu: the woman's sin ? she just... didn't
think very much of random
teenagers.
this,
terribru sin for
the
teenagers in question.
mircea_popescu: we got along great. i
think might have been my favourite
teacher.
mircea_popescu fondly recalls elena dragos. woman was a bit of a famous
thing in cluj at
the
time. an entire year, 180ish students HATED
the woman.
mircea_popescu: also
the fact
that each of his legs is longer
than
the other.
ascii_field: <mircea_popescu> at some point, once you discover
that X isn't a proper master, nor Y nor Z,
the realisation is forcibly dawned on you
that perhaps you just suck. <<
the popular version of
this was, iirc, 'the bad dancer is hindered by his own arse'
trinque: the difference between
the naive, single-step "compassion" and
the longer view, which involves pain, suffering, so on, but a better outcome
trinque: points at a
thing I don't have a word for.
mircea_popescu: exactly. which is
the biggest problem for
the
touchy-feely
types. absolutely HORRID people can make exceptional
teachers
trinque: dunno
that I'd count it against him if it was
trinque: right,
the pile of rocks could've been a papua new guinean
tradition nobody had a coherent reason for
mircea_popescu: X is responsible
to passing
the right data, not
to "passing
the right data in
the right internal context"
mircea_popescu: Y will
take it, in its own context, and do something with it.
mircea_popescu: think of it as separate machines. what
the meaning of data is in X, as it passes it
to Y, matters little for Y. and vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: there's not even any possible relation between
the
two, is
the
thing.
trinque: thought
the guy was just having a
twisted laugh watching me shovel
trinque: of course I had no idea what I was being
taught until later
mircea_popescu: the one
thing redditards dedicate
their lives
to avoiding.
mircea_popescu: at some point, once you discover
that X isn't a proper master, nor Y nor Z,
the realisation is forcibly dawned on you
that perhaps you just suck.
mircea_popescu: "A kid comes into a boxing gym. Your job as a coach is
to discourage him so
that he quits early on and does not waste your
time."
trinque: also
teaches you
to stop being a pussy in
the face of every hard
task
trinque: it knocks
the shithead out of you so you listen better when
the
task is more important
trinque: heh,
the
task was
to flatten
them out into a driveway
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it's only a progression
to somewhere sometimes.
trinque: step dad once dumped out a big pile of rocks from a dump
truck, handed me a shovel
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anymore
than you can establish if bits are code or data.
mircea_popescu: and no, you CAN NOT establish if X is or is not "master" by reading
the orders.
mircea_popescu: there is some value in
the "go reinstall windows for
the 11th
time".
the only issue is, who gives
the order.
ascii_field: cabbage (or
the proverbial potato-peel-detail) are points in a progression
to somewhere.
mircea_popescu: a vast majority of
the great she-cooks i know (younger
than me) started
their cook life by being made
to cut cabbage, and beaten for cutting it badly. and made
to cut more.
mircea_popescu: if you equivocate between master and idiot, don't expect me
to be able
to say much
ascii_field: this is supposed
to
teach
the value of following a master ?
ascii_field: what of
the masters, whose
teachings consist of 'go reinstall winblows for
the 111th
time' ?
mircea_popescu: i blame
the whores
that fucked
the drunks
to spawn
them.
mircea_popescu: they usually do not, which is indicative of just how badly brought up
they are.
mircea_popescu: in many a young man's life, it's
the first
time when someone says "DO X!"