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assbot: VOGONS • View topic - MY ROCKING AMD 486 - ??? MHZ SYSTEM VLB ... ( http://bit.ly/1bNmxd2 )
mircea_popescu: speaking of someliers, they have a forum, you know ? http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=33438
mircea_popescu: http://t.imgbox.com/DA1uRbI3.jpg back in the day
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSmOvYzSeaQ << check out 90s EGA high techs
lobbes: still enough soul to not be made by a machine, but fast enough to say 'damn'
lobbes: I've got a love for 'fast blues'; srv and the like
trinque: that 300mph torrential outpour blues is good too
mod6: anyway, thanks for taking a look!
mod6: anyway, mircea_popescu I'll talk to ben_vulpes about helping me write something up for these charts.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I tend to think this was the last time rock happened -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRQjFB3MV4s
mod6: so the size of that entire directory is not exactly an accurate picture
ascii_field: recall, we aren't using the leveldb thing
ascii_field: lobbes: what are you comparing to ?
mod6: yeah, this is the size of the full bc sync (v0.5.3.1+OrphanageThermonuke)
lobbes: My old turdcoin is about 47 gb atm
lobbes: also, music that made it to the 'top of the charts' back then was actually music
mircea_popescu: entertainment's in this weird situation where the olympic record holders of today couldn't meet the quals for regional competitions in the 70s.
mircea_popescu: so i've been listening to aerosmith all morning. shocking how great bad music was, 40 or so years ago.
mircea_popescu: just, you two, package this in a detailed, explicit, clear, verbose article.
mod6: if you're looking at timing metrics, I can just use 'time' or just rely on the time started in PS and subtract that from the end time.
mircea_popescu: i don't see it makes that big of a difference.
mod6: i don't have the kinda hardware for this sort of ting.
mod6: so, i probably just run them consecutively unless it /really/ matters.
mod6: the one alone costs me $89/mo. and now i've got 2 others for gentoo, and another one is gonna get pricy for this month.
ascii_field: mod6: on two identical boxes
mircea_popescu: mod6 maybe even think about writing a qntra piece, or ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: as it is, this reporting, it is a 90% of an excellent job. make the extra 10%. make it whole, it'll be great.
mod6: anyway, sorry if the charts were less then stellar, but at least /something/ to look at.
ascii_field: mod6: best to let these run in parallel
mircea_popescu: mod6 not a bad idea. but make sure you package these with the required context and publish them.
ascii_field: mod6: by all means, the more - the merrier
mod6: then maybe we have something to compare too... and maybe even a v0.5.3 original baseline as well.
mircea_popescu: dabbled in same, back in the day.
mod6: anyway, I was considering running another full-sync without the OrphanageThermonuke patch -- just a v0.5.3.1-RELEASE baseline.
ascii_field specializes in approximately this kind of circus trick
mircea_popescu: ascii_field industrial engineering is a three century old history of "minimal improvements have astounding effects"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu did read the patch iirc
mircea_popescu: anyway, i must say the profiling seen here crowns an expectation that has been slowly building from what was shown prior, ie that the snipped bitcoin 5 we're using is actually a major improvement over the old bitcoin 5, and thus very, very far ahead of bitcoin 10/11/etc.
mod6: no idea. i can post the raw data if someone wants to pour through it.
trinque: lol is it a signed int that wrapped?
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah kinda what i was trying to evaluate, if the "0, usually" is valid.
mod6: most of the time, looks like 0? except for the beginning.
mod6: maybe that just means there was only a few page faults.
mod6: yeah, some of these charts don't make sense to me.
mod6: ended yesterday, the 11th.
mod6: yeah about that.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i don't recall ever running a node under 8gb, and for that matter that was more like 2012. i think everything now's 32.
ascii_field: so far, i'm 90% certain that this is mainly due to fragging.
mircea_popescu: mod6 doesn't matter which chart per se, just trying to put this in context. what was bitcoind doing in the interval ?
mod6: the box was doing nothing else while this thing was running.
ascii_field: is the actual process steady-state
mircea_popescu: ascii_field 4gb is pretty impressive tbh.
mircea_popescu: mod6 listen, what happened in the 6-12 may interval ? full blockchain sync ? something else ?
mod6: i'll maybe try another tool next time.
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 00:38:06; asciilifeform: mod6: the obvious steps are 1) determine if still leaks (tentatively, i will say that it does not) and 2) determine wtf is eating the ram
mod6: so this is just my first shot at it, really.
mircea_popescu: it is THAT good this thing ?!
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, it's a bot that logs a couple of channels for me
mircea_popescu: and that % style is pretty bad
mod6: Hmm, the swap and & disk are blank for some reason. im sure I just didn't do something correct with those.
mircea_popescu: mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/OrphanageThermonukeCharts/Disk.png << this space intentionally left blank ?
mod6: nmon charts from the entire v0.5.3.1+OrphanageThermonuke sync/test: http://thebitcoin.foundation/OrphanageThermonukeCharts/
mircea_popescu: what business of it is theirs ? "oh, you're so ignorant, you don't even know astronomy". well... he's a farm hand, let him farm.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, see, the opinions of people who do not own 30 btc to their name as to the comings and goings of places where this is a minimum requisite bar do not constitute proper ignorance. it's like saying country bumpkins in montana have no idea how broadstreet works. they obviously don't, but this because the goat does not know calendars.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: remember, tungsten melts in your mouth.
thestringpuller: reddit users i suppose so it is irrelevant. the level of ignorance is just astonishing tho
mircea_popescu: apparently, corrupt govt official with private intersts made pro-forma arrangements to rid himself of these so as to use govt tools to further them
thestringpuller: bitmex d00d says, and i quote, "it is trivial to mitm mpex.co cause it uses http"
ascii_field: (attempting to be something other than slavishly transparent to usg tendrils)
ascii_field: also note what the crime in this case was.
mircea_popescu: "but your honor, it would be a price too high for society to pay were the government granted the right to act because of any defect sufficient to invalidate submitted tax reports"
ascii_field: they get as many shots as it takes.
mircea_popescu: so government can fuck up the conviction, gets a second shot because hey, govt's speshul. you go fuck up your tax returns, see how that goes over.
ascii_field: and this is the national disease of u.s. folks.
ascii_field: saying 'i want a government only -so- big' is a bit like asking for 'a tumour only -so- big'
mircea_popescu: "if we don't steal your rights right at the top, it is unlikely our agents at lower levels would not steal them anyway"
mircea_popescu: imagine the perversity of this.
mircea_popescu: new that reversal of a conviction would put the accused irrevocably beyond the reach of further prosecution."
mircea_popescu: al. It would be a high price indeed for society to pay were every accused granted immunity from punishment because of any defect sufficient to constitute reversible error in the proceedings leading to conviction. From the standpoint of a defendant, it is at least doubtful that appellate courts would be as zealous as they now are in protecting against the effects of improprieties at the trial or pretrial stage if they k
mircea_popescu: "While different theories have been advanced to support the permissibility of retrial, of greater importance than the conceptual abstractions employed to explain the Ball principle are the implications of that principle for the sound administration of justice. Corresponding to the right of an accused to be given a fair trial is the societal interest in punishing one whose guilt is clear after he has obtained such a tri
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: "the constitution is there to protect the government from having to do things... << this doctrine is almost as old as the parchment itself
mircea_popescu: basically this translates to "the constitution is there to protect the government from having to do things it doesn't want to do, not to protect the citizens from things the government wants to do but shouldn't"
mircea_popescu: "In a line of precedent almost a century old, the Supreme Court has repeatedly stressed that the Double Jeopardy Clause does not preclude the government from retrying a defendant whose conviction is set aside because of an error in the proceedings leading to conviction."
mircea_popescu: http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/952/866/367365/ << this thing that got linked on the recent bisp announcement is pretty interesting on its own.
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 19:42:12; mircea_popescu: which incidentally - if anyone wants to sysadmin an aws-style offering on top of bisp metal, please get in touch. i'm open to the idea, we'd have to discuss how it would work.
trinque: qntra article made mention that it'll want to cater to larger customers, so perhaps that fills the gap for those needing smaller instances
mircea_popescu: i bet nobody gets them booze, either.
assbot: The Frogs - I'm Sad, My Goat Just Died Today - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K4KdIR )
mircea_popescu: fluffypony it's not even that, lol. i'm not making a judgement based on how the twerp presents itself. this is more like, "you're not famous, go away", but for a much better definition of famous. "people i care about heard of you."
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's almost like they've forgotten what "right of admission reserved" actually means because of this ongoing "the customer is ALWAYS right" nonsense
mircea_popescu: it's funny, what a few decades of "everyone else is your supporting cast" has done to joe blow.
lobbes: 'Before I consider joining your Web of Trust' lmao
assbot: Introducing the Bitcoin ISP on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FbTf3B )
mircea_popescu: and in the latest lulz for today, http://trilema.com/2015/introducing-the-bitcoin-isp/#comment-114124
ascii_field: for those who did not watch the 'elbrus' youtube (did anyone ?) - if the screenshots are genuine , we now know that one core of 'elbrus' has approximately same benchmark performance as 'pogo.'
jurov: neat. i am finally beating the mailman into submission, turdatron can link there ☟︎
jurov: mike_c yo, is it possible to have direct links like http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/somewhere/$fingerprint ?
mod6: im gonna work on running through my doc & setting that up instead tonight.
mod6: trinque: <+mod6> bah. so now that i know a bit about uclibc, perhaps I need to go through this again with this "[19] hardened/linux/uclibc/amd64" instead of "[14] hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib << yeah
funkenstein_: sometimes keeping up with trilema feels like trying to sync the blockchain with a dialup modem