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mircea_popescu: then presented
them (or sold
them on
to senatos and other dude farmers)
mircea_popescu: that's how
that
thing went, sporting promoters of
the 100s went around, buying young strong slaves,
williamdunne: What about
the slaves
they battled? I'd be lying if I said I had much knowledge outside of primary education and 'Gladiator'
mircea_popescu: a gladiator was more expensive a piece of fixed capital
than a whore.
mircea_popescu: gladiator battles didnt' have
THAT many casualties, you know.
trinque: ah I just meant
the prospect
that
the opponent could be killed
williamdunne: Pretty much, optional and without death. Same sort of blood sport
though
mircea_popescu: trinque my point is
that actual roman weaponry would not present an improvement.
trinque: my observation is
that MMA is as close
to
that as you can get
mircea_popescu: i guess if you force
them, by allowing armor. buyt
then again, gladiatorial combat didn't allow much armor.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i
think it's just
the way it's being promoted. boxing harks
to a different
time, with different people. mma is more
tuned for
the contemporary kid. different life balances. << Which is why I'm
thinking
that 11-ish years from now on my 40th Birthday it might be realistic
that I could become a ProBoxer
trinque: the fighters probably not, due
to
the whole death
thing
mircea_popescu: i don't
think mma guys if given
the option of gladitorial arms would actually
take any.
trinque: ^ I
think MMA fans would watch an actual coloseum fight just as readily.
williamdunne: I'm not aiming for
the greatness, I just want
to see
two people beat
the crap out of each other. Its a bloodsport really I suppose.
Turnover is entertaining.
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: What
that lack of constraint gets you
though is a rapid
turnover at
the
top.
There's so much asymmetry
that no one can aspire
to prolongued greatness.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i
think it's just
the way it's being promoted. boxing harks
to a different
time, with different people. mma is more
tuned for
the contemporary kid. different life balances.
ben_vulpes: anyways,
tango now, documentation with mod6 later.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> williamdunne hey, i enjoy watching some dude beat
the crap / get beaten
the crap out of as much as
the next guy, but it helps a lot if i know
them/there's a substantial quarrel/something. <<
This is a serious problem with MMA. It seems a majority of
the competitors are just downright friendly outside
the ring.
ben_vulpes: i regard
the whole project as
touching both
terminals at
the same
time and avoid doing so at all costs
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: See I like MMA for
that lack of constraints. Maybe I'm just a joe-sixpack-adrenaline junky
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i guess. don't you
think it kinda detracts from
the whole
thing ? like, "here, monkeys, a silver coin. FIGHT!"
pete_dushenski: actually, come
to
think of it, mebbe i'm confusing brands. might've been 'skyhook'
that was $1k and lamassu really was $4-5k.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski:
the skyhook guys actually operate out of a warehouse across
town from me
BingoBoingo: <williamdunne> Not going
to lie, I do enjoy watching MMA << I prefer watching boxing for
the constraints ove
the combatants.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the nasdaq
thing is just,
they want
to use a centralize custom scamcoin
to somehow
track pre-ipo
trades. not really clear what
this actually is,
tbh, and i somehow doubt it's more
than
the intersection between inept bitcoin piarism and vague plans for vapornothing.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes i
think 'skyhook' is
the cheapest,
then lamassu,
then
the dirty, dirty robocoin.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu does money count? Pretty sure
there is a bonus for winning
BingoBoingo: I'd like
to be able
to consider starting a pro-boxing career at 40
mircea_popescu: williamdunne hey, i enjoy watching some dude beat
the crap / get beaten
the crap out of as much as
the next guy, but it helps a lot if i know
them/there's a substantial quarrel/something.
mircea_popescu: i used
to watch some boxing many years ago because i was friends with some promoters etc. never got into it.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski:
THe first undercard fight was great. Second was set up.
pete_dushenski: i'd rather watch some younger, sportier boxers. for as much as i care
to watch boxing.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i dunno dood. by
this reasoning you could put
the chinese state budget on "making obama get nobel prize"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Both were nearly 40, either would have been outclassed by
the featherweights on
the undercard.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu>
this is
the point where i admit
this had been all wild speculation and i have nfi. << My point is you could put most of USia's urban welfare expenditure on making potential Black Panther not starve.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm hoping for a rematch before
they
turn 50. Manny's got
the aggression and Mayweather's age showed more.
mircea_popescu: this is
the point where i admit
this had been all wild speculation and i have nfi.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu>
the size of
that cohesive group is merely a function of
the resources wasted on it. << But consider what USG spends on keeping NBP alive
to only have Maybe 200 new Black Panthers vs. what Femen spends on Maybe 200
topless agitators.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Manny,
the dude who fought money on May 2nd
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what's
the hidden message with
the beta of spades?
mircea_popescu: the "social studies" grant eaters are larger
than
the
texas oil industry.
mircea_popescu: the size of
that cohesive group is merely a function of
the resources wasted on it.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> speaking of which, was
there a paqi-mayw bitbet ? don't recall seeing one, which is
too bad as i would've loved
to have
taken some change off of "the people's fighter" << I
though about funding one. Ended up doing a smaller bet on PacMan.
BingoBoingo: Ah. I was going more for
the actual size of
the cohesive group rather
than its influence sphere.
mircea_popescu: what are you more likely
to run into, a girl
that doesnt want
to fuck because of what she's heard
the catholic church say, or a girl
that wants
to go
topless because of what she's heard of femen ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << it's a mixed bag, really.
the "new black panther" party was a good chunk of
the success of
the obama campaign.
their disinterest was a big chunk of
the ridoinculous fizzle of ows. << NBP is
truly a
tiny
thing like FEMEN
trinque: wouldn't
they love having some kind of ISIS lite domestically
pete_dushenski: ya,
there's no wheelchairs in wwe wrestling, just barbed wire, cages, lead pipes.
trinque: I've wondered, considering it from
the other end, whether
the govt's
trying
to provoke fergusons and baltimores.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: speaking of which, was
there a paqi-mayw bitbet ? don't recall seeing one, which is
too bad as i would've loved
to have
taken some change off of "the people's fighter"
mircea_popescu: well, who you gonna bet on, in
the quadriplegic box match ?
the blind or
the stupid ?
williamdunne: if
that's
the case, as it well may be
the case,
they're not nearly all
that disorganised. arguably better organised
than
the government. <<< glad
to see standards are staying high
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 16:40:25; lobbes: Adlai, career criminals, sure. But I'm skeptical
that a bunch of career criminals would suddenly align against a common foe, rather
than continue
the 'business as usual' of fighting each other
mircea_popescu: if
that's
the case, as it well may be
the case,
they're not nearly all
that disorganised. arguably better organised
than
the government.
mircea_popescu: obviously baltimore riots were a plan hatched and executed by
the baltimore drug lords, but it *may* be also part of a larger frontline, a probing operation as it's called.
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 15:09:44; lobbes: idk re: prison insurgencies. He compares
the 'black youth' imprisoned
today with former workers for Sadam. Former being
terribly unorganized
to start with vs.
the latter (arguably) being
the obverse
mircea_popescu: but of much more direct interest, "It is hard
to see why
this same pattern wouldn't hold once
the US places much of itself under military occupation."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "There is a pattern here: it seems
that whenever Americans arm,
train and equip an army,
that army stands a really big chance of simply melting away, with
the weapons falling into
the hands of
those who want
to use
them against American interests."
Adlai: mircea_popescu: ablative agent, although i forgot
the preposition
gabriel_laddel: trinque: check out
the start of
the video, he is sitting in
the station
mod6: ok all, I'm gonna rebuild
this
thing with uclibc, I'll have an update for ya in a few hours :]
trinque: what's
the interface for
the surgeon look like
trinque: over
the surgical implements
trinque: the level of control
there is remarkable
BingoBoingo: I find it kind of funny
the first mainstream surgical robots are for urology.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I was simply noting
that I'm really
the wrong person
to speak with about living healthy if one wishes
to carry on a conversation.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: Aaron's post had nothing
to say about smoking, drinking and I don't
think
that being opposed
to
these is "new age-y"
mod6: anyway, hanbot: I'll be updating
the document as I go
through
this whole process. I'll let you know when I get something
that's bare-rails specfic.
Thanks for
the help! :]
gabriel_laddel: mod6: nah, I just wanted
to use something more sane
than
their default package manager
trinque: gabriel_laddel: awesome, I look forward
to
that
gabriel_laddel: trinque: yeah, I'm fixing
the install guide and writing an introductory bare-bones lesson now
mod6: as far as "looking into" anything specific... i didn't.
to me it just seems similar
to freebsd's ports or something.
mod6: yeah, well, I did add
the "portage-latest" into
the handrolled gentoo.