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cazalla: people here use to pay top dollar for the land but they have this scam of building 6 shoddy buildings where one use to stand so people are paying 500k pretty much for bricks
BingoBoingo: There's reasons the lowest in St Louis burn buildings for their brick
pete_dushenski: houses, even $2 mn ones, have concrete foundation and wood beam construction in these parts.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> pete_dushenski: in usa cities typically contain brick&cement structures << Very common in "city proper"
asciilifeform: i am operating with the common definition of 'city' as this place where civilians live in high-rises
asciilifeform has not been there, cannot say
decimation: pete_dushenski & asciilifeform : what about the koch brothers building their own western town in the middle of nowhere colorado
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: for the kind of houses found in cities (that is, high-rises)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << mircea_popescu is almost certainly correct, but in usa even multimillionaires (outside of the major cities) live in houses made of precisely these materials, linearly scaled up << In my hometown Beautiful brick house on well maintained lot going for 75 kiloUSD Vinyl equivalent 100 kiloUSD higher
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: in usa cities typically contain brick&cement structures
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform re: housing. the cheap shit houses multimillionaires in cities too, well, 'suburbs'
decimation: one advantage of australia and new zealand is that they have to grow their own fresh vegetables - so everything is 'local' ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 22:37:12; lobbes: I only just started reading Orlov's blog not too long ago. On alf's recommendation, I skipped to some of his earlier stuff (from roughly 2011?). I do get the feeling that he can either be 'hit or miss' at times.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1129342 << mr o habitually 'dips into own stash' - i.e. engages in wishful thinking and allows boundary of reality to blur in his mind. with this in mind, he is entirely readable ☝︎
decimation: that's about average for a good steak in the us, but the beer is at least double
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 22:17:42; mircea_popescu: not that it's not genuine sentiment, i'm sure to some degree it is. the topless sluts were ALSO genuine sentiment, for sure just as genuine, definitely as widely held. the result ? 400 people, beat up by police, not 4mn pushed by the govt press agents.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1129332 << the sluts in question were received - correctly - as agents of western rot-weapon. and treated with unusual kindness on account of being pretty gurlz ☝︎
pete_dushenski: decimation but not worse than sydney
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1129306 << mircea_popescu is almost certainly correct, but in usa even multimillionaires (outside of the major cities) live in houses made of precisely these materials, linearly scaled up ☝︎
decimation: as a usian, I had to pretend that $1=1gbp or else I wouldn't eat anything
decimation: my impression was that the food was expensive as hell
pete_dushenski: decimation the food in london, at least on a middling budget, was lackluster. or perhaps the museums and architecture just overshadowed the cuisine.
BingoBoingo: Scotland and Occupied Ireland may have plusses over the US, but England not so.
williamdunne: Bears cave vs entrance of the cave?
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: No more than England.
williamdunne: Isn't being in the US a dis-qualifier from the get go?
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asciilifeform: (we know that this is not so - but from pure mathematical pedantry, must point out!)
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assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 22:03:27; mircea_popescu: so ascii_field from the above, am i correct in deducing that there have been at most 47728 - 31262-4584 = 11882 (out of 47728, or ~1/4) keys without any RSA subkeys in them ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1129300 << incorrect. from these figures alone, for sake of argument, it is technically possible that one key accounted for -all- of the moduli. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: trinque: I find that book for my network appliances what M. W. Lucas's BSD books are to my laptop
decimation: probably the best in the world
decimation: pete_dushenski: london does have better museums than nyc in my opinion
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> london is the light of heaven compared to nyc << And the jungles of Granite City put both of those so called cities to shame
decimation: pete_dushenski: walking the streets of nyc, all I could think was: "how the hell do all these people afford to live her"
trinque: BingoBoingo: looks like our giant book emporium has it, thanks! (https://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9781593271657-4)
pete_dushenski: london is the light of heaven compared to nyc
decimation: pete_dushenski: yeah that was even more depressing
williamdunne: decimation: Wasn't suggesting you were - I'm just not too bothered by the Englishness thing personally. If thats your boat the South West is probably as good as it gets
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski trinque: http://www.nostarch.com/pf3 << The Bible on turning an OpenBSD box into its most common appliance flavor
pete_dushenski: decimation you thought london was depressing ? cripes. never ever ever go to nyc.
decimation: williamdunne: it's not that I'm a hater on asian folk, just that it doesn't have a distinct 'englishness' anymore ☟︎
trinque: I'll just stick the thing on trinque.org and then you guys can make your own decisions re: newsworthiness ☟︎☟︎
williamdunne: decimation: Kinda like it personally. Never bothered me, although I've not been there for an extended period
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski> BingoBoingo think qntra would be a suitable platform for trinque's openbsd router guide ? << Would require consulting with the other equity partners on deciding if we will do how-to's or how to do them
pete_dushenski: "North Korea's Defence Minister Hyon Yong-chol has been executed, South Korea's spy agency has told parliament, according to media reports. South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported that MPs were told Mr Hyon had been killed on 30 April by anti-aircraft fire in front of an audience. He is believed to have been accused of showing disloyalty to North Korea's leader, Kim Jong-un."
decimation: last time I was in london I found it depressing
williamdunne: Still think that London should separate
decimation: williamdunne < about as crazy as the scots
williamdunne: I'm not from here by birth, nor are my parents. But yeah, some nutjobs in Cornwall want to be an independent country. Ignoring the fact that they actually qualify for a european regional development fund
williamdunne: decimation: Not my sorta thing personally. I'm still pissed off about the cliff collapsing and fucking up the trains for a couple of months
trinque: alright, maybe I'll do some writing this weekend
decimation: I would like to see the chalk cliffs one day
trinque: probably next step for me is to stick privoxy in the middle of the http traffic
pete_dushenski: trinque i'd like to read yours !
pete_dushenski: but... not there yet.
trinque: there are loads of other examples out there; my configuration isn't too interesting yet
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo think qntra would be a suitable platform for trinque's openbsd router guide ?
scoopbot_revived: Tips and tricks for being a successful (small time) landlord. http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/13/tips-and-tricks-for-being-a-successful-small-time-landlord/
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: WHat I mean by dead tree is. People in their WoT write comprehensive books and they all check and then promote the books
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: They sign things too, but... For their own use in releases they have a GPG alternative because GPG licensing violates part of their license purity directive. Dunno how good it is , but sometime hetrogyny is insteresting. ☟︎
williamdunne: Maybe I could try and one-up them and climb up into the mountains for a few years and carve a guide into a stone tablet. ☟︎
decimation: if it runs dos - then kermit!
decimation: asciilifeform: that little fanless 486 would make an ideal serial terminal
BingoBoingo: Well, not a feature of OpenBSD, but their culture
BingoBoingo: <williamdunne> Any chance of a writeup on it? << A distinct feature of OpenBSD is that outside of the man pages much of the best documentation is still produced on dead trees
BingoBoingo: "What people had come to expect"
BingoBoingo: trinque: The worst of the pfconf stuff is inherited
BingoBoingo: <trinque> I'll also say that pf.conf seems to suffer from the same syntax-creep SQL does, where they just add more to the grammar for every feature << Actually the problem is they've been supplanting inherited grammar inherited from ipfw they imitated to start with towards more of a sensible firewall language
trinque: would've made more sense if it were a sort of function composition thing, where you're producing a function that'll process every packet
trinque: I'll also say that pf.conf seems to suffer from the same syntax-creep SQL does, where they just add more to the grammar for every feature
trinque: seems there are a hundred-million other knobs on pf I didn't use
trinque: I tend to want to have a pretty thorough understanding of a thing before I try to teach anyone else, too
trinque: I'd have to put up some kind of blog thing
trinque: williamdunne: I'll see about it; wasn't that hard
trinque: appropriately blocked ports via pf, routing the internal network nicely
trinque: so I made an openbsd home router, and as far as I can tell it's actually doing its job
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check out the fate of jew boy. http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mda39zViQZ1rrufxwo1_1280.jpg ☟︎
williamdunne: I am the 1%?
mircea_popescu: in point of fact this is unchanged millenia later - very few kids end up here, a few more are in the military, and the rest on reddit.
mircea_popescu: yeah, pretty much. so... it couldn't conceivably been a bad standard for them, inasmuch as it was... the standard.
williamdunne: Pretty sure the main alternative was trading or poverty
mircea_popescu: otherwise... maybe become a client for some important patron, and done what the us sub-political class does today. in the day's huffington post and astroturfed meetings and whatnot. a very precarious existence, certainly the slavegirls had it better.
williamdunne: Yes, I'm familiar with the land-ownership. Truly brilliant option IMO. As you say, American dream.
mircea_popescu: the alternatives to this are unclear. if very clever you could have traded, but various ethic groups had a defacto monopoly on that, and a very large cultural advantage.
mircea_popescu: this allowed you to take a young woman and start a household in relative security. the exact american dream.
mircea_popescu: well ok, but in terms of standards : as a young man with no property, your options were essentially to go into military service, which offered pay and, upon serving 18ish to 20something years, a large settlement payment and provincial land.
assbot: Fatalities in mixed martial arts contests - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1bNUMkz )
williamdunne: Not particularly, I know fatality rates would be vastly different dependent on region though. Obviously being a city-guard in Rome is a pretty safe job but being the the border of the empire or in active battle/expansion seems like a good way to get killed
mircea_popescu: really ? i guess i never thought of it that way.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Them
mircea_popescu: tattoo tales from the gender prison http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcxictoZaW1rrufxwo1_1280.jpg
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 18:19:52; jurov: neat. i am finally beating the mailman into submission, turdatron can link there
mircea_popescu: for them or for you ?
mircea_popescu: it really wasn't much higher risk than being in the army, which was you know, a good chunk of the population, especially poorer.
williamdunne: Sort of like the difference between a pet and next seasons dinner - even if both are property
mircea_popescu: even the xtians were thrown to the lions, not to the gladiators.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that was very common.
williamdunne: Sorry I meant the slaves as if in thrown in the pit rather than trained like you would a prize horse