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mircea_popescu: so i go to argue the point, fall upon https://www.latex-project.org/news/2017/12/15/github-move/ "news"
asciilifeform: phf: i dun grasp why box needs troff.
mircea_popescu: phf hate was re two things. a) i utterly failed to parse z(item) into (item) so hated ; and b) soelim was a dirty hack [atop a meanwhile pointless item].
asciilifeform: ( i fully believe that it -- out of the box -- won't )
phf: mircea_popescu: but the factuals are not necessarily under dispute (~soelim~ is not a phototypesetter is what i said). original hate was against "never seen this wrecker thing before", then when new fangled thing turned out to be an old tool, hate shifted to 1960 phototypesetters. methinks the point is a traveling one..
trinque: here, I'll go ahead and post this early, if we're abandoning ship.
asciilifeform: ( also i'm beginning to suspect that i'm doing this all wrong. prolly what oughta be done is to track down freebsd circa 2002 , ALL of the necessary pieces, and work from THAT . )
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not sure what to say, we're like multiple cycles deep into rhetoric here, inception style. i will say though, all this misdirected hate can't be good for digestion, i fear for asciilifeform, he might crack under questioning
asciilifeform: i'm still using my, original.
asciilifeform: trinque: why would i have nls flag
trinque: btw I bet you have zswhatever because "nls" useflag
trinque: oh you mean method by which? no idear; I bet everyone's mother wants them.
asciilifeform: i eat it as a ж for sumreason
mircea_popescu: zs is a transliteration of a sound in some language i speak, it got eaten as such
mircea_popescu: i honestly didn't even fish "soelim" out of the zsazsagabordaemon
asciilifeform: i still dunget why i need a 1972 phototypesetter driver kit in my linux.
phf: to be fair soelim is part of troff suite going back to bill joy's original. i suspect zsoelim is some recent groff addition.
asciilifeform: ( was it added because manpages are now infested with uniturds ? i've nfi )
asciilifeform: i mean, it never before existed in gentoo, it's apparently an imported debianism.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-20#1755201 << i've never heard of, or seen , this item before, it ain't on any other box i have . and yet it breaks man pages -- all of them -- on the box. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can neither add to nor subtract from this.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-20 03:17 asciilifeform: trinque: forget autoconf flags. i want to disable the generation or loading of dyn libs, period.
asciilifeform: ( and yes, i'm quite aware that, e.g., valgrind, won't work on such a machine )
asciilifeform: trinque: forget autoconf flags. i want to disable the generation or loading of dyn libs, period. ☟︎
phf: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/, i'm being a smartass
asciilifeform: and how am i to build world without'em.
trinque: no idear, I haven't gotten it to work.
asciilifeform: and if i already built 4 ?
trinque: aha, I had to build 5.x, gcc-config to switch to 5, then build 4.
trinque: asciilifeform: I referred to the stairstep down to get gcc 4 earlier.
phf: i wonder if we're just witnessing some sort of criticality point, where everything is starting to rapidly deteriorate under the weight of maggot work
asciilifeform: but if i never have to boot up a 'i have nfi what is this nic' box again, it'll be soon enuff.
trinque: mhm, I don't think the menuconfig step can be avoided for a serious kernel.
trinque: only way I ever make a kernel
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 17:43 asciilifeform: trinque: i'm particularly curious re how you trimmed modules. many crapolade modules don't give any obvious indication that they are useless, there is no mechanism for generating a list of 'THESE we actually need, because of the installed iron, and these -- not'
mircea_popescu: i mean... they played house since they were 5yo and mom bought them a cubic metre of plastic, HOW HARD COULD MOVIES BE
mircea_popescu: it's this very fucking thick vein of ustardian dumb, with "strong" women of a very peculiar chimp-like sort, and token "men". i suspect the whole thing is a continuation into a thin pretense of adulthood of some idiot girls' ken-and-barbie pubescent fantasies.
mircea_popescu: i was not inb the slightest appointed. i knew going in it's gonna be CGI-for-TV. with a cast of idiots...
phf: i had a similar reaction to dark shadows, what a disappointment.
hanbot: i think that was some burton thing..."dark shadows"?
hanbot: iirc he objected to the lack of trees in the landscape and said something about there not being any film for old men either and turned it off. but i could be misremembering...
danielpbarron: no idea what you mean there. i guess the only depp movie i saw was fear and loathing
danielpbarron: i guess it's not the worst one. just a guy going crazy in a room. but still ends up having to do with trying to save a woman or something
mircea_popescu: now try predicting movies i'd like and hadn't already seen.
danielpbarron: you liked 1408?? i don't like that guy
danielpbarron: and i picked that particular version because it is the newest one that supported my video card
danielpbarron: hanbot, it used to be in the repository. they removed it after i published my recipe, not even a month later
trinque: ah. there's a mechanism for this that might be cleaner than editing the portage dir. I intend to use it in the cuntoo thing.
danielpbarron: that's how i got my specific kernel version into the recipe after they removed it from the official repository
trinque: I dunno where you got the "digest" step; it's something you'd be doing when heavily modifying or producing own ebuilds
danielpbarron: after it's done i'm gonna do emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse @world
danielpbarron: i copied /usr/portage from my currently working machine to this laptop that's still chrooted from the usb booter, then ran a script that does: ebuild * digest where * is all *.ebuild in that directory
danielpbarron: i think it jammed at something-db
danielpbarron: the aim of my script is to install the base system from my own pre-downloaded files because the initial emerge @world barfs over conflicts that developed since the last time i used my recipe
danielpbarron: do not assume i know what i'm doing here lol
danielpbarron: just noticed my stripped down gentoo has a shit load of web browsers in /usr/portage that i never told it to install. what's the deal with that?
hanbot: anyway trinque looking forward to distfiles collection --i'll be switching over to gentoo from the ubuntu mess soon. i've been fucking around with it for far too long, as asciilifeform in other words ;p
asciilifeform: i did. on a sun. in.. 2002?
mircea_popescu: i never saw an au.
asciilifeform: pdf on linuxen typically goes in massive, nominally open (openssl-style, i.e. wholly unreadable) pile of shit called 'ghostscript'
asciilifeform: 1st time i heard of such a thing
asciilifeform: i assumed it, too, grew legs and ran away
danielpbarron: i just ran into my gentoo usb iso thing not having 'man'
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754912 << sorta-kinda on topic, i attempted a trb install in the field last week, was *thrilled* to discover curl doesn't ship with ubuntu 10.04 (?!) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 22:48 asciilifeform: ( apologies for clutter. ) wtf is (d)[_i] = (d)[_i]; ???
asciilifeform: where do i get 1 of these ? it eats wat, 3phase ?
asciilifeform: i literally couldn't think of a worse algo.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if it takes 6months to resync -- i care
asciilifeform: i dun remember any of this liquishit in vanilla emacs
trinque: in this, I have (and it's trivial to) maintain own package makefiles which depend on other openbsd ports.
trinque: aha, were I making my own ebuild/makefile/whatever for emacs, it simply *wouldn't have* dbus support and fuck you.
asciilifeform: but i dun expect to live to see this.
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, no. i haven't used obsd for years. and by used i mean tried to install again
danielpbarron: oh, i assumed openbsd
danielpbarron: not out of question. i have the cds for versions 5.5 through.. 5.9 i think
asciilifeform: tbh i do wish we were using a bsd as the base
trinque: danielpbarron: excellent re: preserving distfiles. I've got a few piles, bet asciilifeform has too
asciilifeform: btw i finally measured current at full throttle: 330W .
asciilifeform: funnily enuff the box i'm making nao, is destined to become (among other things) a cuntoo mirror.
danielpbarron: my recipe is broken again. i'm currently testing a script i wrote that manually makes the ebuild digests based on files i have on already running machines
trinque: exercise began when I went to run it, found parts no longer working due to mas futuro.
asciilifeform: i've been trying danielpbarron's ( which used , in turn, pieces of mine , which was merely a list of banned turds )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22think+it+should%22+crashes << i fished it out of search. but yes, reason it's in quotes is because it referenced the earlier original.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 15:03 mircea_popescu: "if i make it what i think it should be it crashes"
mircea_popescu: _i >= 0; vs _i < (n); is the point here.
diana_coman: but it doesn't work because i=0; i<n
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I can tell you what it wants to be, lol
asciilifeform: ( apologies for clutter. ) wtf is (d)[_i] = (d)[_i]; ??? ☟︎
asciilifeform: (d)[_i] = (d)[_i]; \
asciilifeform: for( _i = 0; _i < (n); _i++ ) \
asciilifeform: mpi_size_t _i; \
diana_coman: heh, I know
asciilifeform: (d)[_i] = (s)[_i]; \
asciilifeform: for( _i = (n)-1; _i >= 0; _i--) \
asciilifeform: mpi_size_t _i; \
diana_coman: because no, it's not; it's what I put in aka result
diana_coman: at the end result will be what I put in aka number?
diana_coman: so if I call it with result, number and 0
asciilifeform: (i.e. what comes out is what was put in).
asciilifeform: ( tldr : it's an arithmetical, i.e. sign-extending, right-shifter. )