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delan: mircea_popescu: grats to you and loper on factorising hpa’s key
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> most she-haters i know are womenz. << girl last night pointed out that all of her worst clients (she's a physical therapist, deals with highly athletic folks coming to terms with their now-reduced performance envelopes) are women
mircea_popescu: funny how targetted them folks are.
mircea_popescu: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9561212 << THAT comment needs to go. lol.
asciilifeform: (mine was built in '11 and never touched since)
trinque: ok I fixed the dieharder build on gentoo
mircea_popescu: you know that's to this day one of the most popular articles ? i dunno what's with them ppls.
trinque: gotta already want to eat a luger when you find trilema :p
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they won't read it because it makes them want to eat a luger
mircea_popescu: half the "literate" population can't even read trilema because "it's too hard" and words hurt their brain
davout: just teasing :D
asciilifeform: davout: no, i meant that it is actually not hard. as in, go and read definition for sha256
davout: asciilifeform: just because something is easy for a guy with 200 IQ doesn't mean it's as easy for two dudes with 100 IQ
mircea_popescu: trinque only terrorists would want to test their rngs.
asciilifeform: none of this shit is hard
asciilifeform: yesterday - if they were baked a month ago
mircea_popescu: tosoon dude. how fast do you think that can be deployed.
asciilifeform: perhaps the first batch of those cable boxes.
mircea_popescu: enough to push the estimate up 5 points.
mircea_popescu: so in also newsworthy : between yesterday and today there has been a shitton of hashpower added
JPT: I decided to read along a little since it got to me that some rsa keys were broken ;)
ben_vulpes: can you hear me major tom...
ben_vulpes: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=throwaway2391 << bobby boy do i have to smack you again?
mircea_popescu: whether that proves the contrary, or for that matter whether the contrary needs any proof... exercise for reader.
mircea_popescu: was like "we have consensus and therefore will delete your reddit thread proving the contrary. because this will totally work, you being some derps who depend on the graham lulzatron"
asciilifeform: iirc there's a full copy of it on mircea_popescu's www
asciilifeform: because the 'hand of smiting' was visible
mircea_popescu: was it reddit i think ?
mircea_popescu: what was it that wiped an article badly leaving it still sorta-visible ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform https://archive.is/08Ylu there
trinque: jumped from #1 to #20 abruptly for me
davout: I was thinking time-decay algo
asciilifeform: i recommend that someone who cares, snapshot the thing before it vanishes entirely
asciilifeform: davout: pg has an override button that is used very frequently and with scarcely any subterfuge
trinque: lol this is now #20
davout: HN now displays "Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)" higher than this ☟︎
asciilifeform: why not one of the guests is speaking, l0l
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the man has a good point.
decimation: indeed. I'm off on a home improvement project, good luck with the ramblig mob that's gonna come by
mircea_popescu: and we'll have a pretty decent picture once phuctor's done walking the set, which looks like a coupla months
mircea_popescu: decimation anyway, we'll know more / anything of actual substance once the guy himself answers.
trinque: and probably the portage tree itself
decimation: well, I guess if you want your 'roster of people' to be a combination of legal record and bathroom graffiti, they got you covered
trinque: this underscores the need to archive /usr/portage/distfiles
trinque: ben_vulpes: you can always build a specific version provided the ebuild is still available in portage by emerge =category-name/thing-0.1.2
ben_vulpes: trinque: how does one go about walking the history of portage?
decimation: I don't think anything
mircea_popescu: i mean, if the claims is accurate, what's to keep me from making anyone's sks profile 1 gb long ?
mircea_popescu: decimation doesn't that stance open them to incredible ddos ?
asciilifeform: l0l it cuts the nicks
asciilifeform: they store them, easily enough, by never checking
decimation: apparently because of their political stance (all gpg keys must be public and stored for all time)
trinque: I'm trying to figure out why it wont build
trinque: incidentally dieharder has been busted in gentoo for at least two months
mircea_popescu: more on point, would you expect they STORE bad keys ?
decimation: doesn't the sks server check before shitting public key?
mircea_popescu: now that it has 3, 7, 11 etc in the P it will find all these.
mircea_popescu: it seems tempting, tho there are sticking points. but in any case, as phuctor progresses we'll get a better idea.
mircea_popescu: this seems the most ... "nothing happened, go back to sleep"-benign theory.
decimation: cause I thought there was a checksum
decimation: asciilifeform: so did the sks server at one point accept anvin's key and then later bitrotted it?
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu. that's the one.
mircea_popescu: you can't fool mother nature. nevertheless, it is more than happy to sell you the tools by which to fool yourself.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got a link to your article quoting that day's convo ?
asciilifeform: just as i said then
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ben_vulpes a fine example of the perils of "whitening".
asciilifeform: so the missing value in the output won't be, e.g, 13
ben_vulpes: workin on that part
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it'll be especially puzzling because you won't immediately know why it fails, given as you debiased the bits
davout: mircea_popescu: it'd be really interesting to know, it's a gpg --recv-keys | grep skipped away
mats: asciilifeform: this in particular wasn't new to me but nonetheless i shared
mats: asciilifeform: as a new dog i must learn old tricks
ben_vulpes: i am not as malbec immune as davout thinks
mircea_popescu: davout tis on the list of things to do, but it is a long list
mircea_popescu: and then, as that's ripped out, some tests will find the entropy not as good
davout: asciilifeform mircea_popescu is the same 'skipped' behaviour observed when importing the second broken key?
asciilifeform: at all times.
ben_vulpes: so if the device randomly cooks up a control sequence that will get ripped out?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i specifically warned you not to use an rs232 dongle. don't be surprised when output fails a number of tests.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you won't see certain bytes in the output
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'caltrop' << how does the tossing of control bits affect output?
ben_vulpes: * BingoBoingo though doing an honest assessment finds a person who can reasonably keep up in a lot of #b-a convos but who can't program for shit. And honestly... training to trade punches seems much easier than learning to program on any level approaching asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, and mod6. << you could catch up to me in rather short order
asciilifeform: incidentally, anybody want to take the time to walk the sks set and check for 'skipped...' ?
mircea_popescu: "The results I worried about, millions of children running Windows on the OLPC, have not occurred. Instead we see millions of children running Windows on the Intel Classmate."
asciilifeform: mats: classic vx-er trick
mircea_popescu: freelance journo/whatevs. doubt there's sponsors in the classic sense.
asciilifeform: mats: jumping into the middle of an instruction is as old as time
ben_vulpes: found that, yeah
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: feel free to dig. i can't be bothered.
kakobrekla: prolly ddosed to moon
mircea_popescu: !up tmp6548
mircea_popescu: brave of him to come out like that lol.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol dude's story is that he's replicated the results of phuctor since late march ?
asciilifeform: '04-06-2014 00:08:26 <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.'
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what exactly is this, ft meade damage control ?
mircea_popescu: i am not sure how much of this to believe.
asciilifeform: 'Here's what's going on: There are a number of keys on the keyservers that are faulty copies of real keys - they share most of the values, but have some errors. I don't exactly know why that is happening, but I assume it's because of network transmission errors or server crashes during transmissions. These keys don't really do any harm. ...'
mircea_popescu: couldn't have happened to better people.
asciilifeform: (if anyone can disprove this, please wake me up)