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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, i suspect a large number of the rapemeat, aka sjws, actually masturbate, at least mentally, to the idea of them being blind from birth street urchin sexually abused on a constant basis.
decimation: nah, I think the western statism is simple Christianity without god - 'god is dead, it's up to us to build heaven on earth'
trinque: I had a few lols today investigating the #diecisscum and #killallwhitemen things today
asciilifeform: the adventures of the human wavefunction, aha
mircea_popescu: next best thing to no body at all being, a vague body which "might have been"
trinque: asciilifeform: this seems to be the victim culture thing
mircea_popescu: but you see, the idea being, that if they had no body AT ALL... they wouldn't have failed.
asciilifeform: where believer is invited to picture himself as blind from birth street urchin etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: at which point the fantasy of magical body exchanges is, like the armchair generalship of you know, running mpex from the forum, a very natural escape.
mircea_popescu: depression incumbent then is resolved as a "yes but my REAL SELF has not come yet"
mircea_popescu: the western rapemeats' driver is on the contrary : look how much i should have achieved and how utterly i have failed at all of it.
asciilifeform: but specifically the 'you, yes you, -could- be a leprous beggar!' thing
mircea_popescu: see, the hindu psychological driver is coping with harsh environment. so that models the person one way.
asciilifeform: 'short of death, the ultimate relinquishment of responsibility'
asciilifeform: iirc orwell had one of these
mircea_popescu: specifically, actual life is too much of a burden, so they wish to be... well killed, basically.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would say they believe in... descuamation.
trinque: and that this historically would've been swarming around a command structure
trinque: my thought was that the average person has always been this semi-mindless imitator, quite human to try to tend towards the middle, whatever that may be
BingoBoingo: Facebook commenters, worse than tumblrinas
asciilifeform: then realized that hindu, who believes in it, behaves very differently from 'rawlsians'
asciilifeform: i used to wonder whether the 'rawlsian ignorance' folks might -actually- believe in reincarnation. like hindu
decimation: because it jams the markets with crazy nonsense
decimation: ^ which is why fiat currency is so wrapped up in the socialist megastate
mircea_popescu: because if you can't, you ain't buying it. and if you ain't buying it, might as well take the 2nd.
mircea_popescu: the choice is then settled by... whether you can afford the first.
mircea_popescu: "you can either buy this thing which works, or this thing which is free." "but does it work ?" "no."
decimation: it's really easy to sell the idea that the state will save you
mircea_popescu: at the cost of necessary futility, yes.
decimation: yeah but as trinque pointed out earlier, the socialist state has the advantage of 'cheap coordination'
mircea_popescu: (and it's necessarily vacuous for the reason discussed in "the problem of ideal systems")
asciilifeform: trinque: not unlike the difference between car speeding along on a clean road, and engine on fire. in both cases, petrol combusts
mircea_popescu: for this reason it can never be any good
mircea_popescu: trinque the socialist state is necessarily intellectually vacuous
trinque: seems obedience is a fine thing if the directions given to it are any good
trinque: only part I don't know about is whether this is a sort of inauthentic behavior on the part of the shopkeeper
mircea_popescu: hence all the prostitution cults.
asciilifeform: archaeologists tell us about, e.g., ancient minoan 'palace economies' where -everybody- had to go to the central cloth dispensary to get woven cloth where gurlz toiled in the weaving hall. but those who sat in the palaces may have pictured themselves at the 'stellar apex' but had nothing on modern idiotron. minoans did not, afaik, have to go to the palace to get fucked.
mircea_popescu: THIS is what that bullshit is selling, under a guise.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is why idiot rawls and his "veil of ignorance" is so important for the "nordic system" ie, socialism re-emergent. it's not the direct pseudo-ethics it derps around with that's the core there. it's the proposition, unwarranted and offensive, that people have no more substance than replaceable parts, and that their connections in the graph do not exist.
decimation: asciilifeform: is this havel guy kinda like a czech Solzhenitsyn?
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:50:13; mircea_popescu: the socialist state does not want a normally functioning society, but instead this stellar configuration where the state is at the center,
assbot: 0 results for 'itself at the center' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=itself+at+the+center
mircea_popescu: !s itself at the center
trinque: the obedience mechanism, whatever that is
trinque: "He does it because these things must be done if one is to get along in life." << this must be entirely automatic
mircea_popescu: and imo better than mr s, on account of no particular literary ambitions
asciilifeform recommends whole thing
mircea_popescu: intelligent, educated fellow with direct access to the thing and a deep interest in documenting it. one rarely gets better.
mircea_popescu: havel definitely good read on this topic.
asciilifeform: ' It offers human beings the illusion of an identity, of dignity, and of morality while making it easier for them to part with them.'
asciilifeform: precisely same thing
mircea_popescu: and a HUGE hallucination in those citizens minds.
trinque: makes total sense.
trinque: watching the phuctor story unfold as a bystander, it really opens ones eyes to the... call it participatory nature of a totalitarian system
decimation: ^ and designed the nordic system
asciilifeform: and designed the particular example they happen to inhabit.
asciilifeform: if cows could speak, they might very well tell us that they believe themselves to have invented barns
mircea_popescu: the idea that "the people" should have a voice is not unlike the notion that cows should design their own barns.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 02:48:29; decimation: I remember the haters all complaining that bitcoin was 'not stable'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1141102 << excelent example, if more wer eneeded, that soft consensus aka fecal matter. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 02:36:17; AdrianoOliveira: decimation: at least for the Brazilian market I can confirm that... today's volume at local exchanges was about 280 BTC and I got a user offering me 140 out of exchanges
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1141073 << eh, random people ended up with some dust dunno what to do with it. try amassing 1k, or even 10 btc and see what you have to pay. ☝︎
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: I didn't know. Thanks for the pro tip.
asciilifeform: similar to washing out of army ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: generally speaking - what does 'failing' mean there ?
mircea_popescu personally knows ex-slavegirl trainee. failed out of slavedom bootcamp, is now working callcenter. what most meat does irl, the world over.
trinque: seen that, hilarious
mircea_popescu: felipelalli did you manage to rate him in the end ?
mircea_popescu: trinque better than callcenter / myfreecams / wow gold baby.
BingoBoingo: All the gab you want at bargain prices
asciilifeform: trinque: aha. and now imagine if one of the slaves were to get bored and start playing with his console in unsanctioned ways
BingoBoingo: trinque: They are a thing, welcome to glabalization
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 02:24:43; jurov: decimation: they are already in germany building nordic system
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform doesn't seem all that likely but who knows.
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2015 23:04:03; mircea_popescu: it was highlighted by intel about two weeks ago, and we're generally tracing it to philippines "top quality" content farms working for a number of (mostly ct and wash based) pr firms.
asciilifeform: trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-02-2015#1003223 << them. ☝︎
decimation: even the us thinks that its political system is responsible for having vast natural resources/destroying the world twice
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah that's a good point
BingoBoingo: decimation: Nah, I just remember from when his phone carrier still had v4's to give him
mircea_popescu: it's always the same iirc.
decimation: BingoBoingo: did you use a tool to find his ipv6 address assignment pool?
mircea_popescu: it is the nature of human stupidity to ascertain positive outcomes to personal merit and negative outcomes to environmental hostility.
asciilifeform: trinque: i've entertained the thought that it is one of the ill-fated philippinos going off the reservation
mircea_popescu: from saudi arabia to lybia, israel, pick it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1141047 << and all of them, WITHOUT EXCEPTION insist they have some "one twu way" idiotic system. ☝︎
trinque: strange the guy has a compulsion to come here, but mostly emits word salad
felipelalli: !rate AdrianoOliveira 3 "Known in Brazilian community, and now I'm proud to see he on #b-a."
BingoBoingo: meowmix seems to consistently come from near danielpbarron's neck of the woods. Perhaps an ex?
felipelalli: !rate AdrianoOliveira 3 "Known in Brazilian community, and now I'm proud to see he on #b-a."
felipelalli: !rate AdrianoOliveira 3 "Known in Brazilian community, and now I'm proud to see he on #b-a."
mircea_popescu: together, they form
decimation: and uses more than 10 syllables
mircea_popescu: mexual, vexual's evil twin
mircea_popescu: doesn't that mean you LOVE them ?
asciilifeform: i would love to know what meowmix is, and who made it.
mircea_popescu: how about the crab people ?
decimation: meowmix, something draws you to this channel
mircea_popescu: i dunno man... they made me a sammich...
mircea_popescu: replacing the T for passing turing with the F for failing it.