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asciilifeform: lobbes: i dun have any problem w/ including your castle ( is it properly proclaimed castle via mp yet ? btw ? ) -- tho may have to fiddle w/ the htmlism so all 7 actually fit in the header . lemme know when yer ready to deed a signed copy of the archival log for it, to be eaten.
lobbes: however, I'm considering simply registering a "#lobbes" in its stead. However, haven't yet gotten to it due to the need to go through the rigmarole of registering it with fleanode, setting all my bots to +o, etc.
asciilifeform: incidentally, lobbes seems to have made a 7th ?
diana_coman: tbh that's the main reason why I didn't reach for "automate it" - because a lot of it still remains manual; it's more this multiple-chan the trouble perhaps than anything else.
asciilifeform: ( it's the only way to avoid missing a line that was 'in flight' as the proggy ran, elementarily )
asciilifeform: it is given strictly as a mechanized version of the thing we do presently when a bot falls.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hence why i will not propose it as a fully automatic mechanism, i.e. part of bot reconnector.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: my point re misleading longest sequence was if new talk in between getting sequence from a and from b, causing b to be longest just because latest retrieved; anyway, I don't think it can be done a whole lot better at this level really.
diana_coman: in principle if one runs it with bot *disconnected*, a talk within the sync interval simply requires a re-run rather than breaking anything, no?
asciilifeform: (a) may be violated if one of the loggers is not merely missing lines but is in some way broken .
asciilifeform: so, to complete the picture, this algo is guaranteed to work correctly if a) one of the peers actually contains the complete log segment for time T .. present b) no one speaks in the interval while it operates c) the timestamp T correctly represents the cutoff
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aite. proposed algo , is a manually-triggered item that 1) takes a 'breakage point', i.e. last known correctly logged line represented by tuple [chan, index] . 2) finds its timestamp 3) drops errything in db postdating said timestamp 4) walks list of peer loggers, fetches for each enabled chan, errything from last-known-idx i to i+500 5) 4 is repeated until returns <500 6) then takes the ~longest~ such result, from the s
asciilifeform: there's of course a set of much later converts there, via the usa conquest, but these have sumthing like proper translations.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939710 << funnily enuff, the crypto-christians left behind in jp after missionaries expelled, mutated into such a bizarre fork chain that modern church does not recognize'em as anyffin at all ( they mutter unrecognizable chants , which at some pt in 17th c were latin , from phonetic crib sheets to this day... but elsewise resemble 'insular buddhist sect' very closely )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 03:52:06 mp_en_viaje: thar shit about the turks cruelties and barbarities whereby they came by the hundred to "kidnap" a woman and some children (ie, her owner reclaimed her) and otherwise stole some bees and ~THREATENED~ to rustle cattle (who the fuck warns of this, srsly now)...
asciilifeform: asks again, 'boy...' finally boy takes off helmet and utters : 'sir, i fess up, i dun know these things, cuz i aint a REAL WELDER!!!'
asciilifeform: he walks along the street. suddenly a van stops, and inside there is pedofag , 'hey boy, like candy?' boy -- gets in.
asciilifeform: once upon a time, a drunken construction crew left behind a welder's hat. a little boy picks it up and puts on;
asciilifeform: !Qlater tell trinque do you think you can get ben to reappear for long enuff to properly appoint tbf successor ? cuz imho a heavy bag o'coin attached to a beheaded tbf is unseemly and the orig charter offers no gc mechanism for it
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 11:35:51 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939760 << oh, well, i figure the people not calling won the stalemate with the people not making a foundation -- so no further use for it. if we re-do it later it'll be a different number for a real foundation
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939777 << a "me" will not be imported as "mi", because of complicated ethophonetic considerations that are directly and easily explained by reference to uncanny valley. man might take mulatto wife, but will not take corpse wife. even if was white in life, and gray is closer to white than chocolate.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939760 << oh, well, i figure the people not calling won the stalemate with the people not making a foundation -- so no further use for it. if we re-do it later it'll be a different number for a real foundation
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939728 << the old libertard trick of presenting life expectancy as a scalar is as elementary as '3 card monte', ~nobody falls for it unless 'wants to'
asciilifeform: i find it interesting that folx immediately assumed the bug were a feature, lol.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939706 << this is a point
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 02:42:17 mp_en_viaje: took me a while to figure out wtf there's a spurious "bot" in there. honestly asciilifeform i don't think adding text after the name is acceptable. maybe a [B] prefix for the name ? ie instead of "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907." do "[B]snsabot I am bot version 596907."
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939717 << this is bug, i'ma take a look shortly ( and bots already were marked in grey, no need at all for any other marking )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 02:58:08 mp_en_viaje: took me a while to figure out wtf there's a spurious "bot" in there. honestly asciilifeform i don't think adding text after the name is acceptable. maybe a [B] prefix for the name ? ie instead of "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907." do "[B]snsabot I am bot version 596907."
spyked: lol. at least they have a phd at sorbonne.
mp_en_viaje: but data is scarce (mostly becayse rotards too stupid to learn turkish, go to istanbul, read archives ; and nobody else gives a shit so far)
mp_en_viaje: anyway, vlad 4 aka"the monk" seems rather like a local stoic, in the aurelian tradition.
mp_en_viaje: it's somewhat a pity he was born before they figured out how to make houses, thus he's just as useless in practice as yest's discussed schloss.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 03:56:24 mp_en_viaje: very much protests re http://thetarpit.org/uploads/2019/10/targoviste-04-thumb.png creepy designation. not creepy at all, just... has had a hard life, but nevertheles... is very happy to see you! 
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939727 <-- really liked the house, but dunno why current owners decided to put a scarecrow (scarehuman?) at one of the windows. prolly because largely abandoned? there were similar houses in town in top shape.
mp_en_viaje: yes ; but in blank wholesale countermanding of rural naivity one doesn't end up with a nuanced worldview. ends up with symmetrical rural naivity.
mp_en_viaje: thar shit about the turks cruelties and barbarities whereby they came by the hundred to "kidnap" a woman and some children (ie, her owner reclaimed her) and otherwise stole some bees and ~THREATENED~ to rustle cattle (who the fuck warns of this, srsly now)...
mp_en_viaje very much protests re http://thetarpit.org/uploads/2019/10/targoviste-04-thumb.png creepy designation. not creepy at all, just... has had a hard life, but nevertheles... is very happy to see you!
mp_en_viaje: anyways, the etymologically closest english for miriste would perhaps be "real estate". it derived through different paths and ended up co-opted into different usages by a very differently built up imaginarium ; nevertheless it's what it is : cunt in its used up state, the world autumnal.
mp_en_viaje: as always, romanian "dictionaries" made by tards, deeply unqualified to be away from munca de jos : https://dexonline.ro/definitie/miri%C8%99te quotes some imaginary bulgarian "мерище", that aside from not actually existing in bulgarian (there exists a town in Країна Хорватія whose name's thusly spelled IN UKRAINIAN though, of course, of course), can't even possibly be
mp_en_viaje: took me a while to figure out wtf there's a spurious "bot" in there. honestly asciilifeform i don't think adding text after the name is acceptable. maybe a [B] prefix for the name ? ie instead of "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907." do "[B]snsabot I am bot version 596907."
mp_en_viaje: the one advantage of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939683 as a general policy of the republic would be that it'd permit more meaningful / informative version reports. ie, "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907, "added mustachios and removed pistachios", by dillaudildo." in lieu of "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907."
mp_en_viaje: think for the sake of argument how "not losing" china'd have looked : 2/3 of cardinals born over there within less than a century ? last italian pope in 18th century ? last euro pope so long ago nobody over here even remembers it ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 16:26:10 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939609 << dug up a source this this and it's pretty interesting. apparently the papal idjits lost china very similarly to how lost japan.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 14:05:26 mod6: asciilifeform: I don't see a reason to keep it up, because it isn't being used. Let's let mircea_popescu weigh in on this though. Anyway, I'm totally fine if you want to invoice the foundation for what you spent on it.
lobbes: In the meantime I stopped by spyked's castle to see if maybe he has a pill I'm not aware of for the cl-bot, since I'm pretty unversed in all things lisp
lobbes: asciilifeform: yeah, I'm seriously considering swapping the "base" bot with yours at some point. Reconnect issues are a veritable plague for running an auction house (refunds are one thing, but in BingoBoingo's case, for e.g., I know he's depending on auctions closing on schedule in order to pay bills)
asciilifeform: lobbes: pretty neat. ( and you could prolly shorten it substantially by replacing the old cl bot with mine, but iirc you have a full plate w/ mp's wptronic item atm )
asciilifeform: lobbes: it aint a replacement for the manifest knob. specifically wanted mechanism where can ask bot whichthefuck bot it is.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939633 << in related dope oddities : 'Thomas Jefferson was a drug criminal. But he managed to escape the terrible sword of justice by dying a century before the DEA was created. In 1987 agents from the Drug Enforcement Agency showed up at Monticello, Jefferson's famous estate. Jefferson had planted opium poppies in his medicinal garden, and opium poppies a
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 02:25:07 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile, in things chinese thought, "Reading this proclamation, I have concluded that the Westerners are petty indeed. It is impossible to reason with them because they do not understand larger issues as we understand them in China. There is not a single Westerner versed in Chinese works, and their remarks are often incredible and ridiculous. To judge from this proclamation, their religion is no different from o
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939609 << dug up a source this this and it's pretty interesting. apparently the papal idjits lost china very similarly to how lost japan.
mod6: asciilifeform: I don't see a reason to keep it up, because it isn't being used. Let's let mircea_popescu weigh in on this though. Anyway, I'm totally fine if you want to invoice the foundation for what you spent on it.
asciilifeform: i suspect they've a ms-excel plugin for irc , but not for log parsing, or somesuch lul
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-02#1939628 << seems to lurk in #a too. perhaps the current enemy spy, i have nfi
asciilifeform has meanwhile written most of a semi-auto syncer
bvt: spyked: that was for the pre-writeup vpatch release, the one published with a writeup was reground to the head of that time
diana_coman: bvt: ty, I'll give it a try.
bvt: diana_coman: this should have been fixed here: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/logotron-active-disconnect-vpatch/ , please give it a spin; iirc it did not get into sept_fixes vpatch
mp_en_viaje: m or Taoism. I have never seen a document which contains so much nonsense. From now on, Westerners should not be allowed to preach in China, to avoid further trouble."
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile, in things chinese thought, "Reading this proclamation, I have concluded that the Westerners are petty indeed. It is impossible to reason with them because they do not understand larger issues as we understand them in China. There is not a single Westerner versed in Chinese works, and their remarks are often incredible and ridiculous. To judge from this proclamation, their religion is no different from other small, bigoted sects of Buddhis
mp_en_viaje: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/mp-wp-bot-work-plan-week-4/#comment-125 << this is not even altogether a meritless issue, "how and when to rationally merge trees"
BingoBoingo: A bit more than an hour remains before te first Uruguayan presidential debate in 25 years.
asciilifeform aint by any rights qualified to design a schloss, cuz 'never inverted 10k x 10k matrix'
mp_en_viaje: and meh diesels, if you don't nuclear why submarine, buy a boat.
mp_en_viaje: and a third of it has to be a nuclear reactor. i don't fucking want to have to operate a (marine!) nuclear reactor.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, re typhoons : they're a 23x12meter oval 170ish meters long. this is fucking tiny wtf.
BingoBoingo: I suspect the reinforced concrete mid-rise tower would make decent bones for a near-ideal design. I've been watching one of these go up in the backyard. It's just a shame the floors always get divided in such equalitarian manners.
mp_en_viaje: these schloss things are more like overgrown bed&breakfast in practice, and i don't intend to run a motel.
mp_en_viaje: and as you can see from the shots, all the furniture can simply be thrown out, who the fuck wants a tub looks like an overlarge vase.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's roughly same problem as crewing a surplus sovok submarine
asciilifeform: prolly needs dozen+ just to maintain as a passable museum
mp_en_viaje: which is part of the problem -- such an item is a terrible design for a working lordly manor, because very ineptly tiered to an overtly equalitarian flatworld.
asciilifeform: a.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, from experience, an item like depicted would take about a baker's dozen to dozen-an-half slavegirls dedicated to the premises.
mp_en_viaje: afaik only a dozen or so of those were ever built
asciilifeform: returning to BingoBoingo's q tho, just how many hands does it take to fully crew a 40room thing ?
asciilifeform pictures mp_en_viaje sizing up a flakturm for eurobase
mp_en_viaje: if not possible, then a) not schloss and b) 50% discount indisputably
mp_en_viaje: a) built at least by a kurfurst and b) within miles of A-1.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: well if a schloss aint a schloss unless built by at least a kurfurst -- then of course 0 in india. or cr.
BingoBoingo: I suspect something like the schloss takes ~1 girl/year a week to clean (give or take factor of 2 maybe 3 margin of error).
asciilifeform: a.
mp_en_viaje: they're not particular good deals, they're simply fair "waterlevel" so to speak. useful as a comparison point if one's confused.
asciilifeform: 2km from asciilifeform's chair there's an indoor smokery. so that dun 100% answer. but otoh there's gotta be a reason why mp_en_viaje not already bought coupla austrian schlossen
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re that 12mn schloss -- is that supposed to be a 'bargain' price ? i have nfi what these usually cost
asciilifeform still thinks it aint right that can't use e.g. '<<' in a wp comment .
diana_coman: ok, /me promises to let asciilifeform enjoy the salty water and not invite him to half-a-boat; makes some sense since admiral of half a boat is a bit silly, true.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: irc net w/ 1 noad is moar like half a boat imho.
diana_coman: that's like saying neah, still better swimming the ocean naked than having a boat, what's a boat gonna do, need at least 2!!1
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> an' holy shit i slept till noon. the slaves dun fled the coop, i'm left with plushy toys an' whips behind. WUT DO!!! << Probably the move is give the plushes the whips and arrange them into a party.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 18:54:01 mp_en_viaje: o look at that, diana_coman needs a princess dresstrain now with all them pages!
BingoBoingo: White shirt black here is the Prosegur S.A. uniform
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: https://www.deseret.com/1990/2/27/18848505/uruguay-gives-ok-for-a-duel-to-the-death is 1990, might find more recent if I dig more
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 20:18:31 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The shooting is a relatively new phenomenon the Uruguayos are still working on. It was only a few months ago that if one tries to hold up a small business the proprietor will shoot became the conventional wisdom here.
BingoBoingo: The dueling law was killed as part of the 1990's "lets be a foreigner friendly place" push
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-30#1939445 << iirc he was in the very bilge of a java mine. ( but lesse what says when wakes up )
BingoBoingo: When I first arrived it was a great national tragedy that "El Kiki" shot and killed a cashier girl over ~2000 pesos. Action/Reaction are still working themselves out here now that the rediscovery of violence has hit the Uruguayos.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The shooting is a relatively new phenomenon the Uruguayos are still working on. It was only a few months ago that if one tries to hold up a small business the proprietor will shoot became the conventional wisdom here.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 13:52:31 mod6: Now, I've got some money for now, so I'm going to be able to take at least the rest of the year off. Beyond that, I'm still working on the details a bit; may do some per-diem consulting as I need to or what not.
mp_en_viaje: not necessarily by 15yo girls, but i deem it terrible policy to let anyone who ever took a potshot at you live.