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asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: rright, but not only this, but packet switching is nuffin like straight wire , is monstrously slow vs theoretical
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc he described it at length even before, languished for years with dependopotamus
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: ooyeah. still need to get her out of my damn house though (I'm in an apartment now)
asciilifeform: lobbes: when you stand up bot, make sure to change prefix knob ( both for when you arrange with mp_en_viaje to voice it in #t, but especially in the other chans, where if you fughet to change knob, it will step on the feet of mine )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 18:31:09 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mp_en_viaje , spyked , et al : http://18.195.64.227/log << copy of 'rubbish mirror', identical (same 'dollar store' pseudo-isp) but this one in frankfurt. try the same timing w/ it.
asciilifeform: ty mp_en_viaje .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje if you've 1s, time curl http://18.195.64.227/log/trilema/2018-04-18#1802801 > /dev/null
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mp_en_viaje , spyked , et al : http://18.195.64.227/log << copy of 'rubbish mirror', identical (same 'dollar store' pseudo-isp) but this one in frankfurt. try the same timing w/ it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 14:49:59 diana_alt: asciilifeform: 4 runs of curl http://54.209.217.34/log/trilema/2018-04-18#1802801 > /dev/null give http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1llzt/?raw=true
asciilifeform: meanwhile diana_alt's measurement of mirror load in #o.
asciilifeform: !!up diana_alt
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 08:48:36 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-19#1929711 << this is possible if the intercontinental interchange's fucked. which...
mp_en_viaje: like for instance
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 07:47:16 mp_en_viaje: would like to take the time to point this out re ye olde discussion of "is something to learn / is nothing to learn", coming up oft re gosspid but generally always there. "to learn" is insanely vague an operator. just because you don't learn anything useful [about programming] while doing, say, python, it still dun mean you don't learn anything useful about your girflriend, or the tcp infrastructure, or router har
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 14:04:28 asciilifeform: diana_alt: i have plan to move the box to traditional apache, but yet not figured out how to do so w/out unacceptably long disruption of service .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 13:50:01 asciilifeform: diana_alt: fwiw i was not, to date, able to rule out mp's 'overworked pipe' hypothesis .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 14:20:04 diana_alt: spyked: I don't recall and can't see at http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/081-feedbot-manual.html - is feedbot for L1 only or does it work for anyone with positive ratings or regardless of rating or what?
asciilifeform: meanwhile, loox like lobbes reproduced asciilifeform's orig. observation.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 13:52:44 asciilifeform: diana_alt: however, if accessed from localhost on ~public port~ (80) then yes same delay
deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.10429931 << Rockchip w/ FUCKGOATS, Annual, Through July 2020
BingoBoingo: !!invoice diana_coman 0.10429931 Rockchip w/ FUCKGOATS, Annual, Through July 2020
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, diana_coman, et al ^ as time permits , plox to post load times of this ^ log.
asciilifeform: diana_alt's, on other hand, is very similar to mine, i.e. no substantial diff b/w main and 'naked'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo's output is pretty interesting -- how is it that he gets >2x the wait from ~local~ machine than diana_alt from europistan.
asciilifeform: ty diana_alt , BingoBoingo . (i'ma switch off the 2nd logger for nao, will run it again if anyone requests, later)
asciilifeform: diana_alt: do 3-4 shots via each (main vs 33) and paste plox
asciilifeform: ( diana_alt lemme know after tried, i'ma switch it off, it's an unhygienic thing )
BingoBoingo: diana_alt: I never managed to deploy anything that worked as needed on nginx. I managed things that almost work on lighttpd, but it simply lacks the good stuff apache offers for blogs.
asciilifeform: diana_alt: reasons to suspect the pipe, include this: i have stood up temporarily a raw flask on port 33. try time curl "http://logs.nosuchlabs.com:33/log" > /dev/null
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 13:53:04 diana_alt: asciilifeform: atm all my auth except this travel key are in various degrees of deep freeze but if it's not tested until I get back to my usual terminal, I'll try it out
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plz perform the simple experiment suggested by diana_alt and tell result.
asciilifeform: diana_alt: i have plan to move the box to traditional apache, but yet not figured out how to do so w/out unacceptably long disruption of service .
asciilifeform: diana_alt: if you press the vtree and set up the logger on own box, where you happen to be, and import the daily db dump, can then observe the 'native' speed of the thing.
asciilifeform: diana_alt: however, if accessed from localhost on ~public port~ (80) then yes same delay
asciilifeform: diana_alt: i do not currently know, atm i only have access to 1 piz machine. if you have time, plz try from yours and share result.
asciilifeform: diana_alt: fwiw i was not, to date, able to rule out mp's 'overworked pipe' hypothesis .
asciilifeform: diana_alt: there defo is. i've measured up to 0.6s (and all outside of the py proggy per se, i.e. vanishes if accessed at localhost )
asciilifeform: lobbes: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/08/znc2tmsr_etckvvpatch/comment-page-1/#comment-59
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/08/znc2tmsr_etckvvpatch/ << lobbesblog -- znc2...atch
asciilifeform: it was the 1 that ended up with vendetta against ben_vulpes somehow
snsabot: Logged on 2018-01-08 12:19:52 mircea_popescu: the claim "i am female" is fraudulent ; you are male and will die male. this is something decided at birth and unalterable.
asciilifeform: the steering wheel, btw, found
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22alice_m%22 << look at that.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: that was in the "alice_m" thrd.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it was in an old trilema piece, the one about 'sprezzatura'
snsabot: Logged on 2018-05-01 03:43:31 mircea_popescu: fellow strikes me as intelligent in conversation, then i keep having somehow the exact sort of problems with him that i usually have with idiots : i have no fucking idea what's going on, and i have to twist arms to sorta find out, maybe.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:51:47 hanbot_derpy: i wonder if that's an historical pattern, vague fiction - brink of hell.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc record holder in usa to this day ( re total count ) was the 'happiland' d00d, where 80+ on 3 litres of petrol
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:05:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929434 << sword takes training to use this way, noob wrists get tired. i can't find now where i put the "two smgs, make sure you mow down everyone in your car then come out screaming and flailing armss down the tunnel with the rest of the muppets, let Inca sort you out"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:07:42 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929437 << this is iffy. fuel-air bombs win over nato rounds (and most all other nato ornance), which is why russia picked htem as their doctrine, because they're less-worse in the context, not because they're unisersally good.
mp_en_viaje: this is the fuck they do all the fuck day long, ain't it. take something that should never be done, pretend like the doing is "more complicated" than the not doing through the transparent venue of applying cuntlogic, and so act like it's somehow heroic.
deedbot: hanbot_derpy voiced for 30 minutes.
mp_en_viaje: !!up hanbot_derpy
snsabot: Logged on 2016-05-29 16:10:05 mircea_popescu: still, stuff like the raufoss mk211 is the exact pill for "oh, we're armored". orly ? well done, so the round won't blow clear through you! enjoy zirconium fire in your spleen!
lobbes: re: upstack (to my surprise) loox like the bug on eating null payloads wasn't in my znc2tsmr code, but in fact in eat_dump.py. Barf for reference
lobbes: though I figure once mp is done traveling and diana_coman gets her young hands club running there may be more development chat in #e
asciilifeform: lobbes: put it in 'logconverters' subdir next to diana_coman's item .
lobbes: had to add two lines to eat_dump.py; going to try now with a larger test dataset
lobbes: In logotron testing news, (as probably expected) eat_dump.py still barfing on uniturd eating. Studying phf's algo to see if I can get it working
lobbes: about to read through eat_dump.py and do some testing
lobbes has been stepping through 'manually' for the most part; ran all of the lines in 'nsalog_schem.sql' one-by-one from psql commandline
lobbes: micro-nit, but I noticed the example syntax for creating a database in logotron README.txt is noted as 'createdb', but in most of the documentation I've checked it is 'CREATE DATABASE' (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/sql-createdatabase.html)
lobbes: twas in ben_vulpes' original V guide
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 14:51:34 asciilifeform: diana_alt: fella seems to have profound talent for reading text w/out ~actually~ reading. (for instance, escaped noticing that primary diff. b/w a vpatch and a heathen patch, isn't that it is pgp signed (heathens had pgp-signed patches 20y ago) but that it doesn't fuzzy-merge.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: naturally. bedouins, neh.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: pretty sure it was linked. and imho not entirely surprising -- these folx were still sitting in trees when europe was puzzling over jurisprudence . so naturally they will write 'buggy reimplementation of 80% of lis^H^H^H justinian et al' , just as they 'invent' caesar's cipher etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: as far as i can tell, they ~tried~ to '51st state'. problem is that inca can't even fully digest 1 baltimore, merely 1 small (physically large, but not so habitated) town where folx willing to ~sometimes~ shoot, much less entire iraq.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 06:11:02 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929279 << this is like "degrading" a chick from 5'4 to 5'31/2. anyone who's anyone had long tuned out anyways.
asciilifeform: this reduces arguably to mp_en_viaje's old piece where 'height of the towers'. yes, tower is tall, but... yer in a tower.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 03:13:51 mp_en_viaje: i am aware various sysadmin-y folks flatter themselves that "something unixlike'd have existed anyway for our terminal&cmdline needs". this is utterly false, they'd have been clucking at GUI interfaces exactly like the medical profession / barristas everywhere, and been thankful when .jar finally rolled around.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 09:06:27 bvt: mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2017/when-did-america-end/
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929364 << rereading this classic, had grim thought : consider the q mp_en_viaje posed at the end, 'Why is it, exactly, that the pilots didn't come home with a bunch of Iraqi slaves ?' :
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 06:04:55 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929222 << i honestly thought that was the steaming turd icon.
bvt: mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2017/when-did-america-end/
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 06:08:08 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929260 << you hafta register a new name to de-ssl or what's the idea ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:46:59 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: you actually improved my archive process with just such a bash one-liner. I still use it to this day to get around the 'cloudflare' crapola. But you know, 10 years spent in a pot-induced fog tends to make one miss the obvious. I'm working with a new brain these days
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 07:18:07 mp_en_viaje: pretty fucking epic qntra thursday, wtf! nice BingoBoingo !
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:52:44 mp_en_viaje: i expect large portions of lobbesbot actually salvageable ; spyked was making a lisp one too iirc.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 10:41:53 mp_en_viaje: U+0469 ѩ Cyrillic Small Letter Iotified Little Yus
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 10:42:11 mp_en_viaje: ℕ ℤ ℚ ℝ hey wtf stylization is this, R for reals is a double bar-r not a double-r-superimposed! and rationals is Q with a single bar left, not two bars left and right. WTF!
asciilifeform: ty phf , mp_en_viaje, lobbes .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 11:30:55 lobbesbot: Logged on 2015-08-26 20:04:33: <mircea_popescu> "Or in my case, re-write a cooking book. So ladies and gentlorans, I give you Foxy’s Euloran Cookbook V1.1,"
lobbesbot: Logged on 2015-08-26 20:04:33: <mircea_popescu> "Or in my case, re-write a cooking book. So ladies and gentlorans, I give you Foxy’s Euloran Cookbook V1.1,"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 0 eggog on dulap-side log.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje when you wake up, plox to reissue the barfologies if you still have'em handy. whole episode may easily be 'coarse error of pilotage' of asciilifeform
asciilifeform: phf: ty; appears to be the reason for the barf seen vs. lobbes's collection of barfolade. nao need to reproduce mp_en_viaje's
phf: what does SHOW SERVER_ENCODING return for your pg?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 09:49:00 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje when you wake up, plz describe how you actually got the barfola into yer irc client, so can reproduce.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 14:45 phf: mircea_popescu's xchat specifically still does that. so his latin-1 encodable text comes out as such, otherwise it gets promoted to utf-8
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 08:00:13 mp_en_viaje: the only possible conclusion is that unicode support is actually broken on either the flask, the python outright, or some other library asciilifeform is using there. it's true that it was coincidentally discovered by cp1252 translation failure, but it is not limited to that. things missing from nsa log like the micron above are plain unicode and correctly quoted as such by my terminal.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje when you wake up, plz describe how you actually got the barfola into yer irc client, so can reproduce.
asciilifeform: nao will have to see wtf it was that mp_en_viaje found (3 'magick' turds ? )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: worx same in mine, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=%F0%9F%9C%B0&chan=trilema
a111: Logged on 2019-08-09 08:39 mircea_popescu: what can you do, alf just not as good at computing as phf :D
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:08:52 mircea_popescu: meanwhikle at cuntcamps, gut feelings are your guardian angel
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 07:55:31 mp_en_viaje: this then completes our foray into the unpleasant.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 07:33:56 mp_en_viaje: let's do some selected testing then.
a111: Logged on 2019-08-16 11:13 mp_en_viaje: this then completes our foray into the unpleasant.
a111: Logged on 2019-08-16 10:52 mp_en_viaje: let's do some selected testing then.
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, we also have something asciilifeform will love to hear about : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Use_Areas aka "by deliberate design, unicode can never be correctly displayed"