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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142297 << o hey. care to enter a summary of that drama into the record ? i've always been vaguely curious but too lazy to actually put it on the intel list. ☝︎
mod6: i threw mine in there again, it's 2nd in line or something "(queued, 2 moduli remaining...)"
asciilifeform: but one of you fellas might be the lucky one.
asciilifeform: i will point out, for the record, that i do not expect a proper key to break.
asciilifeform: this might take most of night
asciilifeform: aha. presently it's spinning wheels burning through the already tested material resubmitted (script lost place when box was powercycled by unknown hands)
mod6: danielpbarron: might be a good time to quick retest your key before the next batch
asciilifeform: i suppose the cock is long enough to shishkebob them all
mircea_popescu: as opposed to what, bfv or w/e ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the one sucking nsa cok
mircea_popescu: but the density of german ppls on that list is, as janna observed, significant enough to raise an eyebrow.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:09:57; ascii_field: suggests to me - BND.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142287 << logically, if they're german it wouldnb't be the german FOREIGN intelligence ag would it now. ☝︎
Hasimir: I can't complain, my initial stake came from a one night coding effort and then I traded on that and built it a little bit
mircea_popescu: yah i think lots of people doing that 2012ish
Hasimir: I'd found some site that let me turn the lrusd into mtgox coupon code things, so I just churned through it
Hasimir: yeah, that didn't last ...
mircea_popescu: for all the difference it's gonna make.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nah it appears to be because 'mircea_popescu is hitler and asciilifeform is mengele'
mircea_popescu: let those people fix their broken implementation.
BingoBoingo: Well with factors message signing shouldn't be too much CPU mathing, but I guess if at this rate ~98 keys sign "lol I suck cocks" at the end of sks dump processing makes better Trilema post
mircea_popescu: but they're not doing that, because idiots.
mircea_popescu: of course, any of these twerps peanut-gallery-ing around COULD use their time to do any of the useful things obviously allowed by phuctor having, generously and very uncharacteristically for THEIR FIELD published a lot of raw results
Hasimir: oh, not counting people on any of the gpg mailing lists
Hasimir: depends on which wot really, I can think of one or two that would know the math well enough, but are not involved in bitcoin at all (the pgp wot, however, is another matter)
mircea_popescu: time enough to do that once the whole keyset's been combed
mircea_popescu: and the problem with that suggestion is that well, much more interesting to spend computational resources to enlarge the breach atm, than to go in depth.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which is the value of Phuctor signing a sucks cocks message
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the thing is, some keys consist entirely of two moduli, both of which were factored.
mircea_popescu: but on its face, the notion that someone would even be vaguely relevant for crypto and NOT be in the wot at all is so ridiculous as to defy the mind.
asciilifeform: some of these folks have only one subkey; others - two; etc
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's what some derps quoted seems to suggest. Factoring dat subkey doesn't really give priv key
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I enthralled by assertions that "you can't get whole key package from factoring subkey" and yet... niggers.txt
mircea_popescu: ^ in there.
assbot: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Hasimir: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=Hasimir | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Hasimir/
asciilifeform: (and trilema)
asciilifeform: funny how the -only-, afaik, place where the maths have come up... is here.
mod6: jurov: ahh, ok, so let's talk about the best way to do this when we get a chance.
mircea_popescu: none of this having anything whatsoever to do with the actual math involved.
mircea_popescu: because THEY are the inferiors in this social encounter.
Hasimir: for example, there's no windows boxes here
mircea_popescu: and THEY are the ones who are NOT at liberty to make claims other than humbly and with a lot of proof.
Hasimir: mircea_popescu, I'm happy to test on the systems I've got here or have access to, but that's not a broad range
mircea_popescu: b-a is the sitting authority, not some random twerps on the mailing list of some random usg-mandated security theatre "product"
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:06:44; Hasimir: no one on that list has said, "this is the answer" - they're discussing theories and you're attacking them for doing so, it seems a bit odd
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142266 << he is not attacking them "for doing so". he, and i, and ~the rest of the world~ is pointing and laughing at them for their hallucinogenic subjective positioning where they seem to regard themselves as some sort of authority to whjich things are proven. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That redress is if they wait too long to file in the first place. But if hearing that takes 2 years to schedule has to be blown off because prosecutor whales aren't ready... Maybe I have a disposition by $5000/BTC
Hasimir: it'd be more interesting because then you get to pursue them to find out what they're up to, like in any good detective story
asciilifeform: i, for instance, will find it more interesting if we learn that it was caused by displeasure of the gods
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And I object to calling the case It's proper title because as and Illinois people I reject consensus on the people of Illinois vs. me title
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know there is redress for it taking too long, but i dun think iut's taken too long enough yet.
Hasimir: obviously if it is it'll be more interesting, but that's not enough to make it so ...
Hasimir: well, I'm not here for argument, I'm here to try and find out what the cause is
mircea_popescu: lol how long has that thing been going nao ?
BingoBoingo: So in case of Illinois vs. Bingo... Evidentiary hearing which was finally scheduled... continued again because St Clair County's State's Attourney has more asses than heads
mircea_popescu: i came here for an argument! this is just contradiction, an automated gainsaying of everything the op says!
mircea_popescu: what sort of argument is this supposed to be even, "it didn't spare all the boring folks".
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:00:35; Hasimir: didn't spare all the boring folks
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142245 << you got to be kidding right / ☝︎
asciilifeform: ianal, but in usa, a machine below ~100kg is not considered an 'aircraft' and is not required to have items such as radio, lights, or a licensed flyer
asciilifeform: the hilarious part is the signed confession, apparently, -before- the flight
mod6: not sure what jurov was referring to.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 baby what happened there ? << not sure. anyway, even if I add in ".com" or w/e to that link jurov posted, still nada.
asciilifeform: he will have to sit down in the jail for trespassing
asciilifeform: decimation: and i bet that thing is under weight limit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is a loose network of people who had fathers, went to school, read the occasional book even. for the bulk of the rest of the schmucks - above applies, yes
mircea_popescu: in what world is this sort of behaviour tolerated even of seven year olds, in their first year of schooling ?
mircea_popescu: have you people no families, no fathers, do you not spend any time with your parents, is there no school, are there no books, nothing ?
mircea_popescu: what exactly is happening in the us ? is it a post-apocalyptic nuclear wasteland where children are brought up mostly by wolves and weevils ?
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 21:56:03; Hasimir: but has since said he's not interested (the follow up by DKG has that)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142238 << dude check out the retarded children of today. "hi would you talk to me privately seeing how i'm too autistic to engage in the proper channels, of which i have a bevy at my disposal from www to irc ?" "no. and get your head out of your ass." "oh you know what ? I AM GOING TO PUBLISH YOUR EMAIL NAO BECAUSE MY HEAD WORKS FINE INSIDE MY ASS" ☝︎
asciilifeform: forget for two weeks and it's the dulap !
mircea_popescu: you forgot to click the confirm link in your icann email ? :D
mircea_popescu: mod6 baby what happened there ?
mod6: <+jurov> mod6, ben_vulpes, everyone: http://bluesky/ml/test/patches.html needs to manually fill data for "Released in/Based on" columns - just version strings for every patch, help appreciated << this is 404 for me.
asciilifeform: how he planned to turn it into food&rent, i have no clue, but he implied knowing of a way.
BingoBoingo: My impression is he want's those support contracts Redhat failed and was cannabilized upon
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't get the impression his expectation is being directly paid.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i tried many things
BingoBoingo: Sometimes one needs to ride the rail before finding a train
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: but he is even more broadly mistaken in imagining that market will pay enough for -any- operating system to support a moiety, much less a grown man
BingoBoingo: To be fair odd idea people find their way here and he wants a Lispy Unix. You tried to break Opterons into Lisp-Machiners.
asciilifeform: but i'll let the man himself explain
asciilifeform: not seeing this intention in his works thus far
BingoBoingo: Perhaps he aspires to master C machine?
asciilifeform: where the shit gets to turn into wine rather than vice-versa (what it does on -our- planet)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the way i understand, he thinks he has some kind of divine exception from the shit-wine-mixture-theorem
BingoBoingo finds most confusing about gabriel_laddel that he would suppose people pay for *nix'en
BingoBoingo has watched 'Milliona Dollar Baby' too many times this month
BingoBoingo has been meaning to watch that film
asciilifeform: all the private meangurlz whispering, srsly, l0l
asciilifeform: i haven't a clue on whom the trap sprung
mircea_popescu: (the guy = on the email list linked above we're discussing)
mircea_popescu: otherwise i have nfi why what the guy said is worth saying
asciilifeform: but this was, presumably, before he finished reading and learned -why- 3 was a factor
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. and the implication i read was "a small prime AND ONLY THAT SMALL PRIME"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic started out by suggesting - correctly - that having, e.g., 3 - as factor - was not proof of weakness by itself, because one could take mircea_popescu's modulus, multiply by 3
mircea_popescu: can they actually SAY WHO ?
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 21:54:53; ascii_field: LinuxCon and he told me that some folks complained that they can't encrypt to him. For other this was no problem, though.' << this part should surprise no one. the boobytrap works on -someone-.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142235 << so wait, we have actual experimental confirmation for the fabled http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/#selection-383.0-383.773 ?! ☝︎