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assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:26:00; Hasimir: alright, assume you're right then, what do they gain by doing this in a way that can be found by regular(-ish) geeks?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142347 << it's by no means certain the keys being publicly visible is intentional. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Illinois was compelled by courts to offer "carry" on a basis where basically al non-felon comers are welcome ☟︎☟︎
Hasimir: the one who shot all those kids
Hasimir: with that other retard ... what was his name?
Hasimir: and I imagine it's much like the more recent massacre in Norway
mircea_popescu: not only on the gun. on the world too.
mircea_popescu: yes, tumours.
mircea_popescu: and now we come full circle to the problem
cazalla: mircea_popescu, how would i know what to put what where when we can't have weapons here to begin with :\
Hasimir: remember that those ppl weren't used to a world where guns were common enough to worry about
mircea_popescu: cazalla> i'd much rather put 2 in their chest and compost em << why ? you're supposed to shoot out the knees/shoulders, and why wouldn't you ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: even in 'carry states', the list of public locations where such is forbidden, is quite long.
cazalla: Hasimir, not convinced it was him or that he at least acted alone.. what sort of guy autistic retard like him could kill 35 people with such precision
BingoBoingo: <trinque> a humble handgun and a rifle for sport << FLip that Rifle for carry and pistol for sport
Vexual: when i read carry i imagine a kei truck
asciilifeform: u.s. small arms enthusiasts have separate category in their literature called 'carry'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: some of the 'crazy shit stick' thing is a result of u.s. folks -forbidden- to carry. the stick grows 'tumours' from being kept in safe anyway << Fading fast, apparently even I with paper work could carry "crazy shit stick"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform /me knows but what shall i say of it anymore, it's an opaque topic on the basis of erryday experience.
asciilifeform: might as well weld little flowers to it
asciilifeform: it's like a soviet tank on a pedestal in cemetary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: some of the 'crazy shit stick' thing is a result of u.s. folks -forbidden- to carry. the stick grows 'tumours' from being kept in safe anyway
Hasimir: blame that fuckwit in tasmania
mircea_popescu: ah, the dirty work of politics. which to do first.
Hasimir: but we have more important policies to complete first
Hasimir: I suspect that if it came to a party vote I'd be in the minority and voting in favour
Hasimir: have a look at the bill of rights policy and draw your own conclusions ...
mircea_popescu: so the "nuts with guns" angle does have some merit to it fo sho.
mircea_popescu: and no TaCtIcAl ScOpEz
cazalla: Hasimir, what's the pirate party position on weaponry btw?
mircea_popescu: and everyone that does eventually settles for equipment much exactly opposite of what the arms fans favour.
mircea_popescu: trinque mind, i have lived like that, and for extended periods. contrary to what the outsiders think, nobody inside is really all that keen about having to drag the damned things around everywhere.
cazalla: Hasimir, not much point calling the cops or ambos if a couple Refugee australis of the somalian kind rock up to your place, i'd much rather put 2 in their chest and compost em
trinque: I can grant that
mircea_popescu: you know, just because there isn't a better solution of the same strength doesn't mean it's terribru good.
trinque: mircea_popescu: though you and I have vastly different contexts within which to consider those problems
Hasimir: mind you, I live in a place where it's illegal to carry something as relatively tame as pepper spray
mircea_popescu: being armed is like carrying a large 1980s laptop everywhere that can't be turned on
mircea_popescu: trinque a lot more dubious than all that.
Hasimir: Vexual, sleep is for the weak, during the week
trinque: the benefits of being armed stand on their own
trinque: easy to grant that *any* political group in the states is packed with morons
Vexual: 2 days on the train to melb, i don't sleep untill i get home
Hasimir: it is a little cold, but the coffee is good
mircea_popescu: except he doesn't wanna go to melbourne
mircea_popescu: haha that's a point.
Hasimir: cazalla, I probably would if I could, but it seems to almost be a religion for some and I've never seen any religion avoid going to a bad place
mircea_popescu: they are the same text.
mircea_popescu: Hasimir the difference between handout and bribery appears as you switch context.
Hasimir: viewing foreign aid as a handout (instead of the bribery it is)
trinque: Hasimir: how bout yes to 1, voluntary 2, fuck 3
Hasimir: guns above all else, absolutely zero taxes, involvement in society, even if social security is what stops revolutions and blood in the streets, etc.
asciilifeform: Hasimir: we have exacting standards for the criticism, is mostly it. you'd find the same treatment in, e.g., physics community circa 1890.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, seen enough of it to know the place serves as a magnet for sjw types
mircea_popescu: Hasimir how's the crazy american kind ?
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:21:33; Hasimir: I never claimed to have answers, but you guys are locked into the "it must be a conspiracy" mindset and assuming any criticism is part of the conspiracy
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142330 << the difference is subtle, but it is present. ☝︎
Hasimir: cazalla, it, not her and I'm more libertarian, but not the crazy american kind
mircea_popescu: and a fanatical devotion to the pope.
asciilifeform: one to crap'em out, another - to swallow
mircea_popescu: now a bug in [some] gpg... who the fuck knows.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, that's not happening.
asciilifeform: creating, among other things, the valid sig
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the original suggestion, as i read it, was bug in -sks-
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:18:20; ascii_field: and why would a 'bug' affect ONLY (!!!) 1) moduli 2) m^d mod n 3) exponent, which is ALWAYS 281479271743489 after the transformation, regardless of what it originally was 3) ALL FIELDS ARE CORRECTLY SIZED
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142321 << not exactly impossible, tho such bugs are so often weaponized it's not worth making the distinction ☝︎
cazalla: and given Hasimir is from Melbourne, odds are he's a lefty and i'm hitler to those sorts down here
Hasimir: cazalla, I do tend to describe that thing as my crypto problem child ... but, probably worth it
mircea_popescu: cazalla i hope you're all weirded out and inception-ed to fuck seeing how all your friends keep showing up in here.
mod6: i used to smoke a pipe a long time ago.. not sure if I could get used to e-pipe. pipe tobacco has a nice smell, etc.
Vexual: Hasimir, any thought on the suggested shipping reforms?
cazalla: Hasimir, did you run that with asherwolf?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, if you're looking for work to do, there's http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ which has a 25+btc pouch attached and most of the work done by mats an nubbins already, so cap it off and the lot of ya can then be paid
Hasimir: and they cried, "Because Terrorism!"
Hasimir: mircea_popescu, my other hats include co-founding cryptoparty, also in 2012, and writing the bulk of the ppau submission to the national security inquiry
Hasimir: and a certain someone didn't twig ...
Hasimir: mangling thingy
Hasimir: mod6, yep the silly question about the keyserver
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for Hasimir from 1 to 1 with note: Ben McGinnes, aparently the new treasurer of Pirate Party Australia
mircea_popescu: !rate Hasimir 1 Ben McGinnes, aparently the new treasurer of Pirate Party Australia
mod6: didn't i see Ben McGinnes just post something to the thread about MP & the keys on the gnupg list or w/e?
mircea_popescu: learn a new thing erryday
Hasimir: everyone else seemed afraid of the job, but it's not hard
mod6: mine is like: eleafworld.com/product/detail.php/eleaf-istick.html -- the one with the digital display i had with me in b-a.
mod6: asciilifeform: that's just the tank, there is a 30W battery that it screws into from the bottom.
Hasimir: well, I became treasurer in 2013, when he decided not to run again
mircea_popescu: when did this happen then ?
mod6: the airflow on this thing is beatutiful
Hasimir: now he's backpacking through europe
Hasimir: he was treasurer
mircea_popescu: Hasimir apparently you do, seeing how he's the treasurer ?
trinque: mod6: damn that thing looks nice
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he put his mind in the vaporizer :D
mod6: it's so much better than old one. i'll find a link...
asciilifeform: mod6: how's this
mod6: just thought i'd share that :]
mod6: this new vaporizer tank i got is blowing my mind.
Hasimir: there's a few links, I'll dig them out
Hasimir: you mean the ppi thing?
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 22:13:28; Hasimir: oh, did I forget to mention, I'm the treasurer of pirate party australia