asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: are you in fighting shape now ? no moar plague ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the absolute requirement is for a usb3 ( specifically, otherwise box unusably laggy ) drive, with reasonable write-wear endurance ( rules out 'no-names' quite thoroughly )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in my tour of the ( sadly quite few ) working comp shops of BingoBoingostan , no identical or comparable unit turned up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: already began this, with asciilifeform's 1st expedition, delivered a sizeable ( tho by no means sufficient forever ) box of miscellany
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: have you been to the magic booth in ( the airport ? iirc ) of yet ?
asciilifeform: ( was, as instructed, reply to msg containing same )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and yes i mailed'em your photo, as you asked, 0 reply
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: or any news of it at all
asciilifeform: speaking of orcistans, BingoBoingo didja ever get that crate ?
asciilifeform: my current guess ( given that jurov did not say in detail ) is that he was involved with it on ~receiving~ end, unknowingly , and that some % of the folx offering 'wire' for btc, actually send spamolafauxwire
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: sounds like the old 'ripple' scamola
asciilifeform: i mean, out of context, it reads quite oddly, '... and then i was excommunicated' 'but were you even in the church' 'no' '???'
asciilifeform: or do 100% of localbitcoinists, use it, and not real wires ? or wat
asciilifeform: jurov: from the description, it sounds like a paypal. so say you were proclaimed persona non grata by paypal. what's it to you ?
asciilifeform: in theory this is exactly what you'll get if you 1) install the output of ave1's system on a clean box 2) build the thing, now there, again
asciilifeform: at one time asciilifeform hypothesized 'lizards want to unwind the mechant age and install selves as pseudo-feudal nobility' but today not sure of any such thing, possibly just fungal growth
asciilifeform: there are still many people from whom one can learn e.g. mathematics; but not so many mircea_popescus.
asciilifeform: btw i dunno if i ever did, but would like to thank mircea_popescu for teaching to asciilifeform , slowly and painfully and for phree, his craft ( organizational, commercial ) .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not opposed to 2nd round, and would participate, iirc ben_vulpes & mod6 are weighing the numberz even as we speak.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nothing against 's.nsa owns 10%' scenario, early in the game it was a much-needed breathing room for pizarro. but would like to avoid the situation of the well-known children's physics demo, with the two connected balloons.
asciilifeform: i try to at least sometimes think n-moves ahead..
asciilifeform: worx for me. but ftr if ben_vulpes and mod6 succumb to temptation of equity-buying, and mircea_popescu , in turn, agrees, it will likely lead to the regrettable situation pictured earlier.
asciilifeform: i'ma let mircea_popescu say how to crack this nut, my teeth are not up to the job, and pick from his variants, if he dun object
asciilifeform: right; but it oughta be understood that my manufacturing capacity is quite limited, until and unless it somehow permits a full-time asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: ( in case it isn't clear, asciilifeform views s.nsa as in effect a scientific collaboration / partizan front , with mircea_popescu , as asciilifeform does not expect to see any coin from it, i would like to be proven wrong about this, but i don't see selling >50 btc's profit worth of anything, esp not if the climb carries on )
asciilifeform: the 'i dun like the endgame' observation was specifically in re the scenario where s.nsa ends up swallowing pizarro.
asciilifeform: this isn't actually the problem, pizarro ( and other l1 folx ! thank you ! ) supplied asciilifeform in recent times with 100% of the btc-buying opportunities he can digest
asciilifeform: cuz it doesn't have much in the way of cash.
asciilifeform: is even supposing that mircea_popescu doesn't feel like raising his price again ) .
asciilifeform: i will admit however that i dun particularly like the endgame i see in this, where let's say s.nsa sponsors, produces, and sells to pizarro the iron for shares, ends up owning ~100% of pizarro, and asciilifeform doesn't see a dime of profit until ( merely for starters ) he can even afford mpex acct ( which is a major if, rather than a when, it is quite possibly that neither i nor anyone else will ever actually earn 50 btc , and this
asciilifeform: no particular problem, aside from the stark contrast between the 100% repeatability and hygiene of , e.g., FG, and the possibly nsa-laden ( i don't design arm crystal, or the pcb, or the switches, etc ) server
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idea is that a working ( built out, and populated ) pizarro, could , in principle, eventually free asciilifeform from the unspeakable nonsense on which he burns most of his time currently.
asciilifeform: ( there's , to asciilifeform's naked eye, moar turk influence in current ro and even ru , than arabic flavour in current persian , if you discount the borrowed alphabet )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a surprisingly 'euro' lang, structurally, try it some time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: observation was mainly re uci , where enemy model is 'some % of nodes captured and instrumented by hitler'
asciilifeform also fan of old persians, but reads'em in ru transl, his persian-fu being laughably weak at present time
asciilifeform: ( distributed arithmetizing under the three basic enemy models, 'randomly broken', 'honest-curious', 'malicious' -- is entire mathematical subfield, and unfortunately will not fit 'in the margin of this page' )
asciilifeform: observe that correctness guarantees are much easier to arrive at than secrecy guarantee
asciilifeform: ( where to order a computation, you inject it into any particular node in the net )
asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu's scheme readily scales to the earlier 'uci' item
asciilifeform: ( the difficulty with 'majoritator' -- or what is it even called in engl.?? -- system, is the component itself , where the n-of-m magick itself happens. it is inescapably the weak link. )
asciilifeform: well yes, martians did not land and hand it to their waiting arms
asciilifeform: (ftr : if you heap-allocate from within ada, you will not be able to valgrind, on static-musltronic gnat.)
asciilifeform: something to keep in mind when building heavily mixed gnat/cpp hybrid proggies tho.
asciilifeform: ( gnat can be reserved for building actual ada proggies/subsystems )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fortunately conventional gcc already exists on the target system
asciilifeform: now what i do not know is what diana_coman et al would think of this, iirc s.mg includes a substantial ball of cpp
asciilifeform: ( retaining some knob for dynamic linkage isn't totally useless, it enables such things as valgrind ; but i'm quite prepared to lose valgrind, it is not really so necessary when writing asciilifeform-style -- heapless -- ada )☟︎
asciilifeform: ave1: it should be made to do exactly same thing as the working pc version -- linked ~statically~ so it runs on ~any~ arm64 linux ; and build, similarly, statically linked, musltronic bins.
asciilifeform: ( currently nobody has a musltronic gentoo for arm64, afaik )
asciilifeform: ( and yes it absolutely needs ~internal~ switch , cabling to external switch was quite bulky even in the pilot plant with merely 6 units )
asciilifeform: cross compiler also not very useful imho. let the thing build a pc and an arm compiler ( and yes if it has to build cross compiler in the process, let it , but consider it to be a strictly intermediate step )☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814223 << ave1 can we dispense with building the 'builds dynamic turds, so demands musl on system elsewhere' rubbish ? it is useless. let's stick to useful compiler, that works on any box with matching architecture☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814192 << definitely not 28. unless a separate fg-less unit is built, then can hold 32 . and yes i have a cad drawing in progress, so as to work like men rather than monkeys in africa☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and re time on site : i can't picture needing more than 3 days : 1 to sleep ( asciilifeform can't sleep on planes ) ; 1 to install fg and emplace the boxen into the rack ; 1 for overflow .☟︎
asciilifeform: flying with 'handmade' aluminum box is out of the question, it must resemble a 'proper' server .
asciilifeform: incidentally asciilifeform is still in active search for a suitable chassis : general-purpose atx units that i've found, are unsuitable, they lose ~40% of the internal space to nonremovable drive cages, which do NO good in rockchiptron . additionally, a good half of the chassis on the market, are ( for no reason known to me ) not full depth, these can be rejected right away
