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mircea_popescu: obviously the title is tongue in cheek, if that's not obvious from the text.
mircea_popescu: smickles http://trilema.com/2012/falimentul-polimedia-srl/ there, 2011 results. the 2010 and 2009 are also published on my blog ☟︎
mircea_popescu: smickles mm, europe does gaap-ish things, lemme see
mircea_popescu: lol trying to stir up drama kakobrekla ?
mircea_popescu: it's like... instagratifyometer.
mircea_popescu: and immediately see a line going "shares up"
mircea_popescu: srsly, ill say this much :" the greatest thing for a dev team is to announce some change
mircea_popescu: gives kids something useful to do turning rocks and painting them over.
mircea_popescu: see, this is why im for the draft.
mircea_popescu: lmao that nut still about ?
mircea_popescu: id in ht ? huh ?
mircea_popescu: should be good for another ~6 months.
mircea_popescu: lol. 30 days.
mircea_popescu: throw more wrenches in
mircea_popescu: can you conceive of anything else might be useful ? since we've got tghe bonnet off it atm
mircea_popescu: same with 7 and 390 days.
mircea_popescu: "S.MPOE":{"1d":{"avg":"38387.3709", "min":"34738", "max":"39650", "vol":"1724168", "cnt":"84" },
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: anyway, now with trade count too
mircea_popescu: min/max of the spot
mircea_popescu: it is improperly named now lol
mircea_popescu: ty
mircea_popescu: o where did you send it ? i never got it.
mircea_popescu: and also trade count.
mircea_popescu: not just avg price in interval but also min max and volume
mircea_popescu: and btw to whomever it may concern : i updated http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php to publish more info
mircea_popescu: do you have the results published smickles ?
mircea_popescu: jeez that looks sweet
mircea_popescu: <assbot> MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.00852236 BTC. Last price: 1.5 BTC. Capital gain: 1.4 BTC. Total: 1.40852236 BTC. (1408.5%)
mircea_popescu: a, no rush, just wanted to see if its doable.
mircea_popescu: did you get gribble tells ?
mircea_popescu: o that's a good point.
mircea_popescu: why is the bet lost tho ? says there interest changes are ok.
mircea_popescu: haha nice way to make 100 btc nanotube :D
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell kakobrekla hey listen, can you introduce !ticker for mpex too ? you'd have to read http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php, it's a json and just parse for the symbol. it allows concurrency and goes pretty fast.
mircea_popescu: aww not even on.
mircea_popescu: and just parse for the symbol. it allows concurrency and goes pretty fast.
mircea_popescu: you'd have to read http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php, it's a json
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla, can you introduce ticker for mpex ?
mircea_popescu: yee
mircea_popescu: well so i don't see why you'd need to, you can get on irc.
mircea_popescu: haha upon ocasion that wouldn't be too hard.
mircea_popescu: the forum's too complicated for me.
mircea_popescu: gigavps well you're one of the rare breed that can master both forum and irc. i make no such claim.
mircea_popescu: prolly works best with a plan first
mircea_popescu: seems like a great premise.
mircea_popescu: yea, somebody should write a novel of bitcoin, about this one satoshi that was in ALL the scams, in all the hacks, in all of it.
mircea_popescu: maybe they're heroic bitcoins, they made it through the mtgox hack, and all the later hacks
mircea_popescu: whoa going to 12.5
mircea_popescu: speculation is speculation.
mircea_popescu: if not three
mircea_popescu: does gigavps have employees ?
mircea_popescu: maybe it is. most miners seem to be loners.
mircea_popescu: this would be a worthy ideea.
mircea_popescu: or they've separated now or i dunno
mircea_popescu: bitcoin consultancy was bitcoinica/intersango and i guess glsbe
mircea_popescu: that bitcoin consultancy disaster has been multiperson for abnout as long
mircea_popescu: mpex was multiperson since day one.
mircea_popescu: maybe we get the crumb, maybe we get the club.
mircea_popescu: understand : these are high risk propositions, the ideea we'll get rich because we're sparrows and find a crumb some ogre lefrt behind.
mircea_popescu: this'd mean an insider or two being on the board and helping out.
mircea_popescu: usagi : yes, ideally they could get lucky and catch some production hole or something
mircea_popescu: sure. however...
mircea_popescu: to put it in perspective : we're discussing the efficient moving of coal, and somebody proposes they will do it by car and shows that their cousin who is a cab driver drives a cab on a yearly budget of 10k.
mircea_popescu: usagi : a. esillicon does not own or run foundries, they mostly manage other people's runs b. bfl has no 75 mn mkt cap.
mircea_popescu: nn.
mircea_popescu: are you telling me any of the asic proposing companies actually BOUGHT an already ran design ?
mircea_popescu: we don't know jack shit of the resonances etc.
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 these are all new designs really.
mircea_popescu: i do not believe any of them has the wherewithal to pull it off this year.
mircea_popescu: to cut this entire story short : i think any of the btc companies are well meaning, and i think asics will eventually come
mircea_popescu: and you can end up with significant bad chip rates.
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 there are some cheaper variants to set up that deliver dubious product, as in, the economies of scale don't get to play much
mircea_popescu: sony regularly does billion-dollar runs
mircea_popescu: and i never heard of foundry runs for less than millions of units.
mircea_popescu: asics are large and expensive runs. just the set-up cost for the foundry to do an asic run can be 10mn.
mircea_popescu: which are specifically made to exist as prototyping units.
mircea_popescu: what you describe is true of fpgas
mircea_popescu: you're under a wrong impression.
mircea_popescu: im not too busy to know the semiconductor trade, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: i don't see what the offense'd be.
mircea_popescu: o o. i don't think so, not atm.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining not really impossible. sometimes difficult.
mircea_popescu: i don't right off know who that is
mircea_popescu: what 130nm ? im talking millions us$.
mircea_popescu: irl.
mircea_popescu: this is why i'm paid to do consulting.
mircea_popescu: yes, i can know how much money any company has.
mircea_popescu: an asic run is in the 50-100mn range as the absolut minimum. they don't have 50 mn.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining bfl has not the money to do this.
mircea_popescu: doing an asic run is actually of the complexity level of releasing a blockbuster movie.
mircea_popescu: this "can do" attitude has gotten people in a ridiculous position.
mircea_popescu: i think few people comprehend the intricacies of getting a foundry to do a run.
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy that may very well be true actually.
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: cause they're worth about that ?
mircea_popescu: is this a case of miners not understanding finance ?
mircea_popescu: no nefario we didn't know that :D
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: what's the story here ?