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danielpbarron: reminds me of
the failed key signing party at
the last porc fest --
the one after which nobody ended up getting
their key signed because all
the
time was
taken setting up a
temporary key server when all we had
to do was
trade fingerprints and sign it later back at home
trinque: depends on who
the adversary is
trinque: man, I dunno
that
there's a secure linux either
shmadz: thank you, not
the answer I'm looking for, but
this makes me
think
there is an opportunity
to make
the device I want. why is
there not secure Linux
that can run on a phone-like device?
danielpbarron: shmadz, if you find yourself in
the situation where you need
to gpg on
the go, you are finding yourself in
the wrong situations
trinque: nor one
that respects
the privacy of
the data you store on it
trinque: if you want a phone which does not
track your every step, you will not find it
trinque: which is
to say, if you wouldn't do it outside
the police station, don't do it on a phone either
trinque: or otherwise, it's important
to note which actions can and cannot be securely
taken on a phone
trinque: reason being, should you specifically define it, you may find
there is no existing device
that meets
the spec
trinque: shmadz: again, you need
to define secure
shmadz: right, I want a solution
that is roughly
the same size as Samsung note, and runs native Linux, or some secure version of android, if
that even exists
danielpbarron: you can read
the log securely from your phone, although even
this is much more enjoyable on a real computer
trinque: shmadz:
to
the logs with you!
shmadz: ok, so
there is no known solution for secure, pocket sized, computer?
danielpbarron: whereas under gribble,
the worst
they could do was change my key
to
their key
danielpbarron: worst someone can do with compromised irc box is
talk as me for as long as i don't notice
trinque: shmadz: never
trust a phone with anything you can't afford
to lose
trinque: !s specificity of
the diddling
danielpbarron: you can have "secure cellphone" (just for voice) if you run irc on a computer
that doesn't
turn off, and connect
to
that with your cell phone
trinque: shmadz: no pill is going
to secure android on a cellphone
shmadz: my "real computer" is not with me always. or even often. I was hoping
to figure a way
to do secure android?
shmadz: thank you, I'm
trying
to figure a way
to do gpg on android platform. is
this possible?
decimation: yes when barely half of your able adults are working while 40% are being paid
to slack, it's pretty obvious
that
the whole
thing is a confidence scheme
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2015 05:02:36; mircea_popescu: "The system not only pays poor people, it employs lots and lots of almost poor people. I'm not saying
this is a good
thing, or a desirable
thing, I am simply stating a fact. Some of
these are direct government jobs (e.g. staff down at
the SSI office) and some are pretend private sector jobs. If you're a psychiatrist at an inner city clinic, you may
think you're an independent contractor, but you're r
decimation: asciilifeform: or your business is frequented by
those who get checks from
the
treasury for being poor or whatever
decimation: asciilifeform: yes indeed, nobody in
the us is more
than
two or
three degrees from usg
decimation: god forbid
that we give up
the health care
tax break or mortgage interest
tax break
decimation: ^ yes,
this is
true, and most of
their welfare comes in 'tax expendatures'
mircea_popescu: they're going
to spin and deny and pretend nothing happened.
mircea_popescu: we're going
to charge particular ineptitude, and employ ridicule
mircea_popescu: yes yes. in any case, mtgox ended exactly
the way faux gpg, or system d, or gavincoin, or
the sec or
the fbi are gonna end
mircea_popescu: the woman
that is
the state yields eventually, once squeezed enough. not before.
mircea_popescu: if
they can,
they'll just fgill it with straw and keep pretending.
mircea_popescu: but
think of it
this way : never, in
the history of
tyhe world, did ~they~ ever destroy anything.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform coinbase is definitely on
the chopping block.
mircea_popescu: there is not enough bakshees
to pass up
the chain, because bitcoin is not fiat.
they need > 9k%
to be satisfied.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the latter.
the former only exists in imagination.
trinque: asciilifeform: here's a better scam; kill
the price for a bit by imploding gox
trinque: more bitcoins for Mr Force, I
thought
mircea_popescu: if you have a deal
that says she walks without any money or children, it'll be
thrown out.
trinque: I don't
think
the way in which communication happens here would be considered high bandwidth
trinque: perhaps not; I'd expect
though
that we're incredibly low on
the scale
trinque: that's why
they didn't
think up a better scam
mircea_popescu: similarly, it can perhaps be argued successfully
that
the romans had better "social sciences" in
the weaponized, political sense
mircea_popescu: i propose
to you
that for an army of archers, plate armor is much more
than our current ceramic plating and woven nylons.
mircea_popescu: and if zenon's arrow in flight discussion is not exactly
the latter...
mircea_popescu: out of
the crooked
timber of humanity, no
THE
thing was ever made.
decimation: well, generally
the 'way' in
the us is
to be on
the benefit side of
the printing press
decimation: how do you outscam
the printing press?
mircea_popescu: note
that i am not proposing for civilisation
to go away
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is a very poor excuse for not coming up with better scams.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah
that's surely
the majority of usg